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Post by vjaska on Apr 23, 2019 17:32:14 GMT
I only know because I lived in West Norwood as a youngster and my mum told me the name of the church. It must be easy to remember lol Haha yes certainly. |
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Post by redexpress on Apr 23, 2019 21:34:43 GMT
The 48 Tram Route was West Norwood to Southwark Bridge (North side) Don't know location, but the railway bridge and Church spire probably be a clue to someone from the area The bus on the right with the ribbed roof, might be one of the wartime utility buses (not sure about this) which suggests the photo was taken after the war, but before the tram conversion in 1952. Tram 1937 was an E3 class built in 1930 for LCC The buses are parked outside the old Norwood Tram Depot, the frontage is still there according to Google Map, next door to the old fire station. The railway bridge is the line from Herne Hill towards Streatham. The stand is opposite Harpenden Road, all the houses on the right having been redeveloped. At the other end of the route the 48 stopped on the north side of Southwark Bridge, the City Burghers not letting trams encroach any further north. Thanks, that makes sense. I'd guessed at Norwood Road but the church spire in the background threw me. Turns out it was demolished in 1967. It clearly isn't St Luke's (sorry vjaska) - it was the Roupell Park Methodist Church - more info here. |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 23, 2019 23:21:25 GMT
The buses are parked outside the old Norwood Tram Depot, the frontage is still there according to Google Map, next door to the old fire station. The railway bridge is the line from Herne Hill towards Streatham. The stand is opposite Harpenden Road, all the houses on the right having been redeveloped. At the other end of the route the 48 stopped on the north side of Southwark Bridge, the City Burghers not letting trams encroach any further north. Thanks, that makes sense. I'd guessed at Norwood Road but the church spire in the background threw me. Turns out it was demolished in 1967. It clearly isn't St Luke's (sorry vjaska) - it was the Roupell Park Methodist Church - more info here. Fair enough - from the other pic, it looked like St. Luke's due to the positioning of it in relation to the bridge but the incline of Norwood High Street is steeper than in the pic having looked again so it's a whoopsie from me  |
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Post by busaholic on Apr 24, 2019 21:24:37 GMT
The bus on the left is almost certainly an RTL if it's on the 2 route, which it appears to be: the bus next to it, with a roofbox, is an RT, of which a mere 4,825 were built, a world record by a country mile! Isn't the bus on the left on the 3? Could be an RT or an RTL - I'm no expert on the RT family.
Any idea on the location? As far as I can tell the 3 only met the 48 tram at Herne Hill, but this doesn't look like Herne Hill, so the bus may have been on a garage journey to Norwood.
If it's a 3, then, given the location, it'll be an RT because it has to be running from Norwood Garage. RTLs ran on the 3 from Chalk Farm, but they wouldn't appear in West Norwood. The clue as to whether it's an RT or RTL would be a triangular badge on top of the radiator in the case of the RT: unfortunately it's unclear from the photo reproduction. Regarding the tram, I don't remember the 48 tram route, but I have very distant memories of the 46 tram route, which I travelled on as a very small child, and once accompanied my father on it to the Southwark Bridge terminus, but the 48 would have been withdrawn by then. In one of the last transport books published by Ian Allan I came across a photo I'd never seen before, taken at Eltham Green on the last tram day in July 1952 where a solitary figure appears between two trams, and is most definitely my late father. Unfortunately Ian Allan wouldn't answer my correspondence to try to obtain the negative or rights or a good copy or whatever: I'd have paid good money! |
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Post by John tuthill on Apr 25, 2019 14:56:25 GMT
I believe this is the most appropriate place to put this  Moved house recently and found some old photographs that used to belong in the main reception area at Norwood Garage I have taken some photos of the photos lol (hopefully will scan them soon) No idea on the models apart from the RM lol This is the first one flic.kr/p/RRPkziAttached is your photo, suitable captioned. Also is the Middleton Press tram book I scanned it from. A brilliant series of books, if for no other reason is to look at the architecture/redevelopment of the areas you are familiar with. Reduce the size of the book cover attached to show full page Attachment Deleted Attachment Deleted |
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Post by galwhv69 on Apr 25, 2019 16:10:06 GMT
I believe this is the most appropriate place to put this Moved house recently and found some old photographs that used to belong in the main reception area at Norwood Garage I have taken some photos of the photos lol (hopefully will scan them soon) No idea on the models apart from the RM lol This is the first one flic.kr/p/RRPkziAttached is your photo, suitable captioned. Also is the Middleton Press tram book I scanned it from. A brilliant series of books, if for no other reason is to look at the architecture/redevelopment of the areas you are familiar with. Reduce the size of the book cover attached to show full page View Attachment View Attachment Thanks!  I will try and find a copy as (although they don't personally bring back memories;too young  ) they show an excellent piece of London's Tram & Bus History |
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) they show an excellent piece of London's Tram & Bus History