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Post by sid on Sept 28, 2018 21:24:20 GMT
According to the London Bus Routes website by Ian Armstrong, RMs worked the 146 on Sundays from January 1975 to April 1978 when the route was opoed There are a couple of photos of them on Flickr sites
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They certainly did - well, one per Sunday.  What I'm disputing is RMs subbing for an RT in the evening, with its one-bus service, when 2 RTs would be sitting out of service at TB fully blinded for the 146 (front intermediate and rear blinds had to be changed with the conductor's key, in the case of the front blind from the front of the top deck). Drivers wouldn't welcome an RM, with its extra 6 inch width, in the dark anyway. It's fantasy land. On Sunday the driver could choose, an RM from the 47 allocation or an RT. |
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Post by busaholic on Sept 30, 2018 21:35:23 GMT
The "Tunnel Express" was a different animal entirely. Thames Weald was started by an eccentric consultant psychiatrist, Dr Nesbit Heffernan. He worked at one of the many psychiatric hospitals in the area around Dartford, and in 1961 he started a Kingsdown-Gravesend service to replace a withdrawn London Country route. The Dartford Tunnel opened in November 1963 and initially London Transport provided a Grays-Dartford route (300) and also extended Green Line 722 from Corbets Tey to to Dartford. The Green Line extension lasted less than a year, whilst the bus route struggled on until May 1967. In August 1967 Thames Weald started the "Tunnel Express" which ran from Romford to Sevenoaks - and from July 1971 to January 1974 it ran on to Crawley. The route continued until the late 1990s when Dr Heffernan was refused a further licence due to his great age. Thames Weald had some operational problems in the latter half of the 1970s, and may have been assisted by one of the Orpington area operators during this period. Other than that there appears to be no connection between the Orpington operators and the "Tunnel Express". This is a rather fun anecdote about Dr Hefferman and the bus service. www.signal-training.com/ebeg/Archive/Heffernan.pdfFlight of fantasy. How about a film based on a highly-fictionalised account of Dr Heffernan, his bus services and, perhaps, some of his psychiatric patients, a touch of 'On the Buses' mixed with 'Last of the Summer Wine'? The late Peter Cushing, a Kent man through and through, is the obvious choice for portraying Heffernan, and his death need be nothing more than a minor setback as, I think I'm right in saying, he's already 'played' a role in a recent film by dint of re-using old footage in a different context! Forum members could play loads of roles (we're talking a niche product here ) as bus drivers (don't all rush!) and, whisper it gently, perhaps psychiatric patients demanding that Dr Heffernan cater to their omnibus fetishes! I'm happy to put myself forward as one of the latter, so long as I'm allowed to nominate one or two others whom I think should be locked up too,  Thames Weald's having a young female bus driver in an age when they were extremely rare could be another angle, of course. |
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Post by COBO on Oct 2, 2018 21:12:51 GMT
If remember rightly years ago the H26 was suppose to get 10.2m single deck vehicles. Why didn't the H26 get it's 10.2m single deck vehicles? Is there a restriction.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 12:11:57 GMT
Two more nagging questions for anyone.
1. Why does the 103 not serve Rainham Tesco, as per all the other passing routes ?
2. Why does the 324 whizz passed Queensbury Station, unlike the 79 that serves it before resuming its Honeypot Lane routeing ?
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Post by LK65EBO on Oct 17, 2019 20:08:36 GMT
If remember rightly years ago the H26 was suppose to get 10.2m single deck vehicles. Why didn't the H26 get it's 10.2m single deck vehicles? Is there a restriction. I think the H26 needs 9.7m buses. |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 18, 2019 13:42:39 GMT
Two more nagging questions for anyone. 1. Why does the 103 not serve Rainham Tesco, as per all the other passing routes ? 2. Why does the 324 whizz passed Queensbury Station, unlike the 79 that serves it before resuming its Honeypot Lane routeing ? I think historically the 103 terminated at the War Memorial which was a very short walk to Tesco, maybe at the time it was seen as unnecessary for it to divert into Tesco. |
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Post by lonmark on Oct 18, 2019 15:38:19 GMT
Two more nagging questions for anyone. 1. Why does the 103 not serve Rainham Tesco, as per all the other passing routes ? 2. Why does the 324 whizz passed Queensbury Station, unlike the 79 that serves it before resuming its Honeypot Lane routeing ? I think historically the 103 terminated at the War Memorial which was a very short walk to Tesco, maybe at the time it was seen as unnecessary for it to divert into Tesco. It not that bad for people who can be walking via footpath way link to the tesco! |
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Post by lonmark on Oct 18, 2019 15:44:01 GMT
Two more nagging questions for anyone. 1. Why does the 103 not serve Rainham Tesco, as per all the other passing routes ? 2. Why does the 324 whizz passed Queensbury Station, unlike the 79 that serves it before resuming its Honeypot Lane routeing ? route 324 will still service at kingsbury station on same lines anyway! so no point going via Queensbury station at all. saving time of the journey! Both of Kingsbury and Queensbury are in Zone 4 anyway! |
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Post by richard on Oct 18, 2019 17:44:44 GMT
Dose the 210 count? That whent from SD to DD in 2008
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Post by ctrh136 on Oct 21, 2019 22:12:59 GMT
Change of subject but not sure where suits best - what are the earliest start times and latest finish times for an N-prefixed night route on a normal weekday?
I've seen that the first N3 departs Bromley North at 2345 with the last one arriving at 0658. Not sure if any have more range than that.
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Post by redexpress on Oct 21, 2019 22:57:12 GMT
Change of subject but not sure where suits best - what are the earliest start times and latest finish times for an N-prefixed night route on a normal weekday? I've seen that the first N3 departs Bromley North at 2345 with the last one arriving at 0658. Not sure if any have more range than that. On a weeknight the N98 just beats the N3, with a first departure at 2336 and last arrival at 0658.
If you were to include weekends I think the N91 on Sat nights / Sun mornings would take the crown, with a first departure at 2340 and last arrival at 0749.
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Post by enviroPB on Oct 22, 2019 0:29:13 GMT
Change of subject but not sure where suits best - what are the earliest start times and latest finish times for an N-prefixed night route on a normal weekday? I've seen that the first N3 departs Bromley North at 2345 with the last one arriving at 0658. Not sure if any have more range than that. Thought we've done this question ad nauseum but things fluidly change in the night bus network post Night Tube! In the past (before the N9 went to LT operation) the N9 took the crown for the earliest starting and the latest finishing night route. However now it's the N551 for the earliest night route at 23:20 departing Gallions Reach nightly and on Sundays it's the N8, arriving at Oxford Circus at 07:43 whatever redexpress said! |
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Post by richard on Oct 22, 2019 1:40:25 GMT
Change of subject but not sure where suits best - what are the earliest start times and latest finish times for an N-prefixed night route on a normal weekday? I've seen that the first N3 departs Bromley North at 2345 with the last one arriving at 0658. Not sure if any have more range than that. N41 last one is 05:15 from Trafalgar Square arrives at 06:05 happy to be corrected on this |
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Post by redexpress on Oct 22, 2019 7:46:42 GMT
Change of subject but not sure where suits best - what are the earliest start times and latest finish times for an N-prefixed night route on a normal weekday? I've seen that the first N3 departs Bromley North at 2345 with the last one arriving at 0658. Not sure if any have more range than that. Thought we've done this question ad nauseum but things fluidly change in the night bus network post Night Tube! In the past (before the N9 went to LT operation) the N9 took the crown for the earliest starting and the latest finishing night route. However now it's the N551 for the earliest night route at 23:20 departing Gallions Reach nightly and on Sundays it's the N8, arriving at Oxford Circus at 07:43 whatever redexpress said! N551 is indeed the earliest starter. I was about to say that the N91 has an earlier start on Sunday nights (2314 ex Cockfosters) but I've just seen that the new N551 timetable (presumably since HCT took over) has an even earlier start at weekends, with buses leaving Gallions Reach at 2310! |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Apr 10, 2020 21:32:10 GMT
More political but after the Central & West London Bus Changes could we potentially see a decline in the amount of votes for Sadiq Khan due to his controversial changes across London?
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What I'm disputing is RMs subbing for an RT in the evening, with its one-bus service, when 2 RTs would be sitting out of service at TB fully blinded for the 146 (front intermediate and rear blinds had to be changed with the conductor's key, in the case of the front blind from the front of the top deck). Drivers wouldn't welcome an RM, with its extra 6 inch width, in the dark anyway. It's fantasy land.
Thames Weald's having a young female bus driver in an age when they were extremely rare could be another angle, of course.
