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Post by george on Sept 17, 2019 10:29:40 GMT
Although it was tragic, life goes on. People move on. A bus is a piece of machinery, it’s used to transport people from point A to B. It’s a part of a business after all. Buses have served Tavistock Square daily, even after 7/7. Same thing with the tube, thousands of tubes have past the various accident sites from 7/7 daily. You mean to tell me TfL should stop running the whole network because something tragic happened there years ago? It may seem a little cold, but in reality in order to progress in life, you can’t dwell on the bad things from the past. Well said, I couldn't agree with you more. I think it's only a few enthusiasts who get worked up about 19000, the real 7/7 memorial is in Hyde Park. The most telling factor to me is that even when 19000 could have worked on the 30 most of the time it was on other routes, at the end of the day it's just a bus. I won't be sorry to see it withdrawn just so that we don't have to have all this waffle everytime it's mentioned, forgive me being blunt but I've never been one for over sentimentality. I actually have another reason to remember July 7th 2005, a friend of mine lost his life to cancer that day at a ridiculously young age and he would readily acknowledge that life goes on. That's exactly the same point I was trying to make in my original post. That's what memorials are there for.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 17, 2019 10:42:35 GMT
Would be nice if Metroline and TfL allowed it to do even 1 single rounder on July 7th every year And via Tavistock Square from Marble Arch it would do the same routing as 17758 did on that faithful day IIRC 19000 was the first London spec E400 built. It was delivered late, but should have been in service before Metroline's on route 24. 19000 also made the news years later being set on fire by a bunch on girl vandals in Walthamstow. I think it would NOT be a good idea to have 19000 to run every year on the 30 on 7/7 as it may affect certain people. Its as bad as saying the driver George who it happened with should also drive the bus at the same time etc and divert. Its a bit torturous! I really hope 19000 is preserved though
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Post by richard on Sept 17, 2019 12:35:31 GMT
And via Tavistock Square from Marble Arch it would do the same routing as 17758 did on that faithful day IIRC 19000 was the first London spec E400 built. It was delivered late, but should have been in service before Metroline's on route 24. 19000 also made the news years later being set on fire by a bunch on girl vandals in Walthamstow. I think it would NOT be a good idea to have 19000 to run every year on the 30 on 7/7 as it may affect certain people. Its as bad as saying the driver George who it happened with should also drive the bus at the same time etc and divert. Its a bit torturous! I really hope 19000 is preserved though
There is a garage tour on YouTube by some enthusiasts at WH and one of them asked what will happen to 19000 the tour guide said it will become part of the heritage fleet
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Post by galwhv69 on Sept 17, 2019 15:36:06 GMT
TA1 on the 37 Should fit 🤔
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Post by vjaska on Sept 17, 2019 16:32:24 GMT
TA1 on the 37 Should fit 🤔 I can't see it making the turn from Half Moon Lane onto Red Post Hill
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Post by galwhv69 on Sept 17, 2019 16:35:03 GMT
TA1 on the 37 Should fit 🤔 I can't see it making the turn from Half Moon Lane onto Red Post Hill Oh, shame (I only ever go Putney Heath - Herne Hill and assumed (wrongly ) that the rest would be alright
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 16:42:02 GMT
TA1 on the 291 - perfect for capacity, not so great for the bus itself and cars.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 17, 2019 16:44:45 GMT
I can't see it making the turn from Half Moon Lane onto Red Post Hill Oh, shame (I only ever go Putney Heath - Herne Hill and assumed (wrongly ) that the rest would be alright I could be wrong but that turn does look tight going towards Peckham (the other direction looks fine) with the traffic island on the bridge. I never understood why Southwark thought a traffic island is needed on the bridge given a zebra crossing on Red Post Hill just passed Half Moon Lane would make more sense - I'd imagine it would also reduce the load on the bridge given it was a weak bridge a good 20 odd years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 19:28:19 GMT
Although it was tragic, life goes on. People move on. A bus is a piece of machinery, it’s used to transport people from point A to B. It’s a part of a business after all. Buses have served Tavistock Square daily, even after 7/7. Same thing with the tube, thousands of tubes have past the various accident sites from 7/7 daily. You mean to tell me TfL should stop running the whole network because something tragic happened there years ago? It may seem a little cold, but in reality in order to progress in life, you can’t dwell on the bad things from the past. Well said, I couldn't agree with you more. I think it's only a few enthusiasts who get worked up about 19000, the real 7/7 memorial is in Hyde Park. The most telling factor to me is that even when 19000 could have worked on the 30 most of the time it was on other routes, at the end of the day it's just a bus. I won't be sorry to see it withdrawn just so that we don't have to have all this waffle everytime it's mentioned, forgive me being blunt but I've never been one for over sentimentality. I actually have another reason to remember July 7th 2005, a friend of mine lost his life to cancer that day at a ridiculously young age and he would readily acknowledge that life goes on. I must say this post is very distasteful! Please show some respect to all the victims of 7/7. It might be just a bus now but at the time it was a important message showing we wouldn't be beaten by terrorist.
In terms of 19000 I could be wrong but pretty sure it was used a lot of the 30 from new until the route was lost 2011 to First. Of course there would be times it see service on other routes much like pretty much every bus in London. It was then out of service for sometime after the arson attach whilst on route 69 then moved to T then onto RM.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 19:39:16 GMT
Well said, I couldn't agree with you more. I think it's only a few enthusiasts who get worked up about 19000, the real 7/7 memorial is in Hyde Park. The most telling factor to me is that even when 19000 could have worked on the 30 most of the time it was on other routes, at the end of the day it's just a bus. I won't be sorry to see it withdrawn just so that we don't have to have all this waffle everytime it's mentioned, forgive me being blunt but I've never been one for over sentimentality. I actually have another reason to remember July 7th 2005, a friend of mine lost his life to cancer that day at a ridiculously young age and he would readily acknowledge that life goes on. I must say this post is very distasteful! Please show some respect to all the victims of 7/7. It might be just a bus now but at the time it was a important message showing we wouldn't be beaten by terrorist.
In terms of 19000 I could be wrong but pretty sure it was used a lot of the 30 from new until the route was lost 2011 to First. Of course there would be times it see service on other routes much like pretty much every bus in London. It was then out of service for sometime after the arson attach whilst on route 69 then moved to T then onto RM.
You're clearly trolling so I'm not going to bother replying, how many times have you said you weren't posting on here again but still you do. It's difficult to take you seriously quite honestly.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 18, 2019 10:03:11 GMT
IIRC 19000 was the first London spec E400 built. It was delivered late, but should have been in service before Metroline's on route 24. 19000 also made the news years later being set on fire by a bunch on girl vandals in Walthamstow. I think it would NOT be a good idea to have 19000 to run every year on the 30 on 7/7 as it may affect certain people. Its as bad as saying the driver George who it happened with should also drive the bus at the same time etc and divert. Its a bit torturous! I really hope 19000 is preserved though
There is a garage tour on YouTube by some enthusiasts at WH and one of them asked what will happen to 19000 the tour guide said it will become part of the heritage fleet Cant see it staying in the heritage fleet that long. Look what happened to T1, RML2760, RMC1461 and TA1
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Post by richard on Sept 18, 2019 11:41:16 GMT
There is a garage tour on YouTube by some enthusiasts at WH and one of them asked what will happen to 19000 the tour guide said it will become part of the heritage fleet Cant see it staying in the heritage fleet that long. Look what happened to T1, RML2760, RMC1461 and TA1 Would be a shame if it didn't stay in the heritage fleet for long considering the significance of it. Why wouldn't it stay for that long?
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Post by Max B on Sept 18, 2019 11:59:01 GMT
They’re not even blinded for the route at N, but a T on the 249 would be good.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 18, 2019 13:47:33 GMT
There is a garage tour on YouTube by some enthusiasts at WH and one of them asked what will happen to 19000 the tour guide said it will become part of the heritage fleet Cant see it staying in the heritage fleet that long. Look what happened to T1, RML2760, RMC1461 and TA1 RML2760 is still with them AFAIK.
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Post by busaholic on Sept 18, 2019 21:32:01 GMT
Cant see it staying in the heritage fleet that long. Look what happened to T1, RML2760, RMC1461 and TA1 RML2760 is still with them AFAIK. On long term loan to London Bus Museum?
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