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Post by vjaska on Dec 31, 2020 0:09:03 GMT
I think the main reason that pub names ceased to be used as qualifiers is that pub names change too often (or, these days, disappear altogether). This process accelerated during the 1990s, to the point where it was decided that pub names would only be used in cases where the name is so well-known that it can outlive the pub itself - for example, there are many road junctions that are named after pubs and where the name still appears on road signs long after the pub has been demolished. Yes, that's a good explanation and there are still some examples of pub names if you look hard enough. For instance in Tower Bridge Road the 1, 42 and 188 still call at a stop named 'Bricklayers Arms' even though the pub is long gone. I believe that destination may even still be on the blinds as well. In Locksbottom you have a junction named 'The Fantail' even though the pub is now named 'Chapter One' and finally in Hayes the 138 calls at a stop named 'The Pickhurst' when the pub next to it has (sadly) been a Miller & Carter steakhouse for a good few years. The Bricklayers Arms falls into the category of surviving because of the junction and it is indeed still a destination on blinds used by some buses. The George Canning name did survive for many years as a blind destination for N buses even when the pub was renamed - I believe it was finally removed when the DLA's & VLA's at N started to receive new blinds eventually when the 415 was created and operated from N.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Feb 19, 2021 16:39:47 GMT
In West London 65 shows Ealing Broadway (but it doesn’t terminate there), it runs to Ealing Haven Green (used for E1 and E9). Why can same place have to different names Kingston is another vague destination, Cromwell Road, Fairfield, Brook Street, Kingston Hall Road destinations get same vague Kingston although a fair walk between them. Oddly the 65 has a short working to Kingston Cromwell Road (when the qualifier is used) even though other buses using Cromwell Road use the vague Kingston There is a Kingston Hill turn that I have seen displayed (which has to be one of the most vague), as most people would need to guess where it is (and I bet many on this forum don’t know either, with an answer somewhere in 2 miles between Norbiton and Roehampton Vale) George Road. I have been on an 85 terminating there.
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Post by Dillon95 on Feb 22, 2021 23:20:00 GMT
Bellingham Catford Bus Garage is an improvement, anybody not familiar with the area might well assume that the garage is in Catford town centre. I know Catford is the bigger place in the area and is next door to Bellingham but I don't know why the bus garage wasn't named just Bellingham Bus Garage at the beginning just makes life easier. I’ve always thought that as well.
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Post by orangejamieboss on Feb 25, 2021 18:21:05 GMT
Does anyone know when Grosvenor Road was removed from the blinds of the 24? I believe they used to display Pimlico, GROSVENOR ROAD. Now just cut down to Pimlico which I think is pretty vague.
Noticed this disappeared either towards the end of Metroline's first stint on the route (2002-2007) or the beginning of GAL's, not sure which one it was.
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Post by greg on Feb 26, 2021 9:11:09 GMT
Does anyone know when Grosvenor Road was removed from the blinds of the 24? I believe they used to display Pimlico, GROSVENOR ROAD. Now just cut down to Pimlico which I think is pretty vague. Noticed this disappeared either towards the end of Metroline's first stint on the route (2002-2007) or the beginning of GAL's, not sure which one it was. Im sure it was GAL E’s which stopped with the Grosvenor Road qualifier, although a lot of qualifiers were removed around the same time so I guess thats why
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Post by Busboy105 on Feb 26, 2021 17:27:38 GMT
Not really vague, more inconsistent Why does the 76 have the bus station qualifier after Tottenham Hale but the 41 and the 192 just have Tottenham Hale? Another thing as well the W4 should have Estate after Ferry Lane considering it doesn’t actually stop on Ferry Lane it actually stops on Jarrow Road. So it could be either Tottenham Hale, Ferry Lane Estate or Tottenham Hale, Jarrow Road. I believe GAL used the first one when they had it I think.
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 26, 2021 17:56:07 GMT
Not really vague, more inconsistent Why does the 76 have the bus station qualifier after Tottenham Hale but the 41 and the 192 just have Tottenham Hale? Another thing as well the W4 should have Estate after Ferry Lane considering it doesn’t actually stop on Ferry Lane it actually stops on Jarrow Road. So it could be either Tottenham Hale, Ferry Lane Estate or Tottenham Hale, Jarrow Road. I believe GAL used the first one when they had it I think. Blinds made at different times. A few years ago TfL were getting rid of qualifying points as far as possible and many blinds from that period are still very much in use, but more recently they have been making a limited comeback.
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Post by ak121 on Mar 4, 2021 21:09:51 GMT
Does the iBus system on route 341 actually announce 'Northumberland Park, Angel Road Superstores' like the rather cluttered HV blinds suggest, or does it just announce 'Angel Road Superstores'?
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Post by Busboy105 on Mar 4, 2021 22:16:00 GMT
Does the iBus system on route 341 actually announce 'Northumberland Park, Angel Road Superstores' like the rather cluttered HV blinds suggest, or does it just announce 'Angel Road Superstores'? Just Angel Road Superstores. The 212 and the 275 are similar with this as iBus just announces St James St instead of Walthamstow, St James St.
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Post by richard on Mar 4, 2021 22:17:47 GMT
Does the iBus system on route 341 actually announce 'Northumberland Park, Angel Road Superstores' like the rather cluttered HV blinds suggest, or does it just announce 'Angel Road Superstores'? I haven't been on the 341 In ages but the last time I did it did say "Angel Road Superstores" on the ibus
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Post by adl on Mar 4, 2021 22:24:17 GMT
Ilford is very vague as there are a number of places buses stand in Ilford:
Ilford Station Hainault Street Roden Street
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Post by Gellico on Mar 5, 2021 0:28:05 GMT
"London" - 702
Nothing more vague than that.
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Post by Busboy105 on Mar 5, 2021 10:18:25 GMT
"London" - 702 Nothing more vague than that. Same with National Express services to London. I think they put it as that because it ends at Victoria Coach Station which is the main terminus for them but yes they should be more specific.
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Post by Busboy105 on Mar 5, 2021 10:20:23 GMT
Ilford is very vague as there are a number of places buses stand in Ilford: Ilford Station Hainault Street Roden Street Roden Street is known as Ilford Broadway on the 296 and the 396. Only the EL1 ends at Ilford Station so that makes sense. What’s weird is that only the W19 has Ilford High Road, Hainault Street whilst every other route that terminates there just shows Ilford.
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 5, 2021 10:24:16 GMT
"London" - 702 Nothing more vague than that. Same with National Express services to London. I think they put it as that because it ends at Victoria Coach Station which is the main terminus for them but yes they should be more specific. Look at it the other way round, you at VCS, do you want to know a coach is going to Bristol or Liverpool, or where abouts in those cities. I think if you are planning a coach trip, you will have researched where it will drop you off.
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