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Post by richard on Mar 19, 2019 18:59:24 GMT
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Post by Pilot on Mar 19, 2019 19:05:51 GMT
I honestly wonder what would happen if all buses were driver-less, I mean surely it would cause like end of coal era type of unemployment.
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Post by richard on Mar 19, 2019 22:44:37 GMT
I honestly wonder what would happen if all buses were driver-less, I mean surely it would cause like end of coal era type of unemployment. The union's would defiantly not agree and i can see strikes with this if it ever happens the Driverless cars never happened because they had a few incidents
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Post by snoggle on Mar 19, 2019 23:29:02 GMT
I honestly wonder what would happen if all buses were driver-less, I mean surely it would cause like end of coal era type of unemployment. I think we are a long way away from such a scenario. No matter how hard the tech companies try they cannot get the technology to be "perfect" in terms of coping with random but everyday events that happen on roads. Human drivers know and can cope with such events. Technology can't because it is not adaptive in the way that humans are. Look how many accidents / injuries there have been in the States with test vehicles. The whole "driverless" vehicle thing is subject to so much hype and exaggeration that I struggle to take it seriously. They can't even get those wheeled robot things, used for deliveries, to work properly. How on earth are you going to persuade people to get on a bus with no driver in control? How can you *ever* be sure the kit and software can cope with every eventuality? You can't. I also don't see how legislation can be properly framed to allow the use of autonomous vehicles on a large scale - other than politicians being bribed (literally and metaphorically) by big tech companies. I suspect we will see some pretty disgusting manipulation of the political process by the multinational tech giants - "Do as we say or we'll stop your public services working properly". We've had it before with the car and oil industries lobbying to destroy public transport and to build masses of roads so it's perfectly foreseeable for this scenario. Gaining control of personal mobility will be an enormous "win" for the tech companies and will allow them to "extort", sorry charge, vast sums of money from people who need to travel. That's almost everyone in society - we all need to get places to do things / see people. Let's be honest - if you want automation in mass transit then you need controlled and segregated infrastructure ideally insulated from the weather. That's why automated underground lines can and do work - the environment is largely controlled and mostly isolated from unexpected risks / events. You will never, ever achieve that level of control on public roads unless they are going to rebuilt at enormous cost to stop pedestrians and cyclists going on to or across the highway. That is simply not feasible in existing settlements *anywhere* in the world. I'd also argue that the general consensus about climate change, pollution and the negative impact of cars is pushing the planning of cities in a direction away from one where autonomous vehicles would either work or even be welcome.
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Post by joefrombow on Mar 19, 2019 23:52:11 GMT
I honestly wonder what would happen if all buses were driver-less, I mean surely it would cause like end of coal era type of unemployment. The union's would defiantly not agree and i can see strikes with this if it ever happens the Driverless cars never happened because they had a few incidents Not to be a "scaremongerer" but I honestly think within the next 10/12 years by 2030 we are going to see a big change in automation in a number of industries especially ones that are typically "working class" jobs i.e Driving and the like I've attached a few articles that touch on the matter but even if we think back 15 years ago look how far technology has come I.e with phones and the like it's a shame wages haven't kept up to the same pace as technology and house prices 🙄 but that's another matter I know the public aren't too trusting now but once the tech evolves I think people will change there views I don't like the idea of it personally but i honestly can see it coming also can see a few major corporations having the lions share of everything the Google, Amazon , UBER etc look at the influence UBER has had on governments in a few cities already ? www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/30/reality-automation-terrifyingwww.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/27/jobs-risk-automation-according-oxford-university-one/amp/
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 20, 2019 1:18:06 GMT
Pah! We've had driverless trains on GTR for years now #industrialaction
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