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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 29, 2019 20:45:42 GMT
I know very far fetched but could there be any chance it's going to use resources from the 48 which goes in October aswell. LTs to the 19 and HVs and drivers from the 48 for the new 335.
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 29, 2019 21:56:00 GMT
Results out, option 1 via the Standard selected, due to start this October. No surprise it creates a link from Kidbrooke to Blackheath and will assist the 108. I wouldn’t be surprised if the 422 gets less used as it takes the longest way possible to get to North Greenwich from Royal Standard.
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Post by danorak on Aug 30, 2019 12:19:35 GMT
Good news. The Westcombe Society's response is so poor, I might start a campaign to get the 386 double-decked as a response. That'll show 'em. Odd note in TfL's press release about business rates money being brought forward to fund the 335's introduction, when the 335 is funded by Section 106 contributions from Berkeley Homes at Kidbrooke Village. Not that I'm obsessed but I'm trying to think of how the Westcombe Society's requests could be accommodated. The logical answer to reducing buses on Westcombe Hill and providing a service to North Greenwich from the west of their area is to divert the 422 via the 386 routeing. It's almost worth suggesting to hear the outrage from those on Westcombe Park Road who would have more buses, and double deckers at that (it's a non-starter because of Vanbrugh Hill). More seriously, I often wonder how these responses from 'community groups' are drafted as most people around the Standard have been complaining that there aren't enough buses to North Greenwich.
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Post by stuckonthe486 on Aug 30, 2019 12:50:39 GMT
Good news. The Westcombe Society's response is so poor, I might start a campaign to get the 386 double-decked as a response. That'll show 'em. Odd note in TfL's press release about business rates money being brought forward to fund the 335's introduction, when the 335 is funded by Section 106 contributions from Berkeley Homes at Kidbrooke Village. Not that I'm obsessed but I'm trying to think of how the Westcombe Society's requests could be accommodated. The logical answer to reducing buses on Westcombe Hill and providing a service to North Greenwich from the west of their area is to divert the 422 via the 386 routeing. It's almost worth suggesting to hear the outrage from those on Westcombe Park Road who would have more buses, and double deckers at that (it's a non-starter because of Vanbrugh Hill). More seriously, I often wonder how these responses from 'community groups' are drafted as most people around the Standard have been complaining that there aren't enough buses to North Greenwich. The Westcombe Society - like many similar groups - is largely full of retired, often very affluent people who have not commuted regularly for years. These aren't people at risk of losing their jobs because they are always late because they can't get on a 108, or worry they may have to move somewhere else with higher rents because the public transport is so poor. I wonder if they complained about the introduction of the 386 back in the early 90s.
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Post by jrussa on Aug 30, 2019 15:14:44 GMT
Results out, option 1 via the Standard selected, due to start this October. No surprise it creates a link from Kidbrooke to Blackheath and will assist the 108. I wouldn’t be surprised if the 422 gets less used as it takes the longest way possible to get to North Greenwich from Royal Standard. I regularly travel on the 108 and the 422 takes either the exact same time or one minute faster. I prefer the old Route 108 routing via Blackwall Lane, but I understand the double running and the traffic it would have to encounter twice towards Stratford.
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Post by LVF_Admin on Aug 30, 2019 20:17:07 GMT
No surprise it creates a link from Kidbrooke to Blackheath and will assist the 108. I wouldn’t be surprised if the 422 gets less used as it takes the longest way possible to get to North Greenwich from Royal Standard. I regularly travel on the 108 and the 422 takes either the exact same time or one minute faster. I prefer the old Route 108 routing via Blackwall Lane, but I understand the double running and the traffic it would have to encounter twice towards Stratford. It doesn't go to Blackheath Village though so the connection from Kidbrooke is marginally quicker than walking as there are short cuts that can be used on foot.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 7, 2019 5:49:39 GMT
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Post by danorak on Sept 24, 2019 18:51:29 GMT
Saw an Arriva HV trundling along part of the route this evening, type or route training I assume.
I was wondering what the stopping arrangements are going to be for this in North Greenwich as it fits rather awkwardly - it needs to have a common stop with the 108 and 422 but it also has commonality with the 132. You can't even see the 132 stop from the 108/422 stop, and I am sure they don't want people hanging around near the top of the escalator to see what appears first (the apps are unreliable at the first stop). It feels like a stop reshuffle might be in order.
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Post by enviroPB on Sept 24, 2019 18:56:13 GMT
Saw an Arriva HV trundling along part of the route this evening, type or route training I assume. I was wondering what the stopping arrangements are going to be for this in North Greenwich as it fits rather awkwardly - it needs to have a common stop with the 108 and 422 but it also has commonality with the 132. You can't even see the 132 stop from the 108/422 stop, and I am sure they don't want people hanging around near the top of the escalator to see what appears first (the apps are unreliable at the first stop). It feels like a stop reshuffle might be in order. Unlikely. TfL are probably going to plonk the 335 at the 132 stop as it's just the 132 serving stop D.
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Post by beaver14uk on Sept 24, 2019 19:21:35 GMT
it will be stop B Saw an Arriva HV trundling along part of the route this evening, type or route training I assume. I was wondering what the stopping arrangements are going to be for this in North Greenwich as it fits rather awkwardly - it needs to have a common stop with the 108 and 422 but it also has commonality with the 132. You can't even see the 132 stop from the 108/422 stop, and I am sure they don't want people hanging around near the top of the escalator to see what appears first (the apps are unreliable at the first stop). It feels like a stop reshuffle might be in order.
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 24, 2019 20:10:35 GMT
Saw an Arriva HV trundling along part of the route this evening, type or route training I assume. I was wondering what the stopping arrangements are going to be for this in North Greenwich as it fits rather awkwardly - it needs to have a common stop with the 108 and 422 but it also has commonality with the 132. You can't even see the 132 stop from the 108/422 stop, and I am sure they don't want people hanging around near the top of the escalator to see what appears first (the apps are unreliable at the first stop). It feels like a stop reshuffle might be in order. The 335 goes a complete direction to the 132 in Kidbrooke. That bus was probably doing a route survey/test. Expect to see more buses appearing the route learning is to begin. Those who want either will probably hover in the middle of the bus station. Overall those wanting Kidbrooke Village will probably wait for the 335. The 335 will probably help reduce the heavy loads on the 132 as it directly serves Kidbrooke Village.
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Post by twobellstogo on Sept 25, 2019 10:57:19 GMT
it will be stop B Saw an Arriva HV trundling along part of the route this evening, type or route training I assume. I was wondering what the stopping arrangements are going to be for this in North Greenwich as it fits rather awkwardly - it needs to have a common stop with the 108 and 422 but it also has commonality with the 132. You can't even see the 132 stop from the 108/422 stop, and I am sure they don't want people hanging around near the top of the escalator to see what appears first (the apps are unreliable at the first stop). It feels like a stop reshuffle might be in order. It hasn’t gone unnoticed by me that you are a fount of very useful info, beaver14uk - thank you 🙂
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Post by beaver14uk on Sept 25, 2019 16:56:49 GMT
I try but I think a few of us are getting a bit fed up with some people on here. I just won't answer them now lol quote author=" twobellstogo" source="/post/527765/thread" timestamp="1569409039"] It hasn’t gone unnoticed by me that you are a fount of very useful info, beaver14uk - thank you 🙂[/quote]
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Post by stuckonthe486 on Oct 23, 2019 13:22:57 GMT
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Post by stuckonthe486 on Jan 30, 2020 13:06:52 GMT
I did wonder whether there was anything to be said for switching the 380 to run up Victoria Way rather than Charlton Church Lane to reduce the number of movements, but I suspect that would cause as many issues as it solved. The odd 380 does occasionally stray up the southern end of Victoria Way if there's a sudden road closure, but there is a similar issue with the street being overwhelmed by parked cars (it's also very steep for a stretch at the junction with Elliscombe Road). You could probably run it via Tallis Grove and Bramhope Lane - this has happened on a past diversion. But plenty of people do use the 380 on Charlton Church Lane, so it wouldn't be popular. Unfortunately, this is under Greenwich Council, which consistently prefers cars to buses, and until that changes, it's always going to be a problem. The 380 is in fact running up and down the southern end of Victoria Way right this very moment - clearly something has happened on Charlton Church Lane - the buses are taking it very gingerly!
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