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Post by abellion on May 19, 2019 6:19:27 GMT
A lot of suburban routes are getting the old buses. 270 still runs the old Presidents (such as PJO2 RFE) with the stupidly outdated doors and obnoxious engines.
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Post by M1104 on May 19, 2019 6:47:38 GMT
A lot of suburban routes are getting the old buses. 270 still runs the old Presidents (such as PJO2 RFE) with the stupidly outdated doors and obnoxious engines. As a former PVL driver I actually prefer those swing exit doors over the plug-in ones, especially where the latter can be a bit clumsy in operation. Regarding the engines I actually like those variants of the B7TLs as most units within the firm were refurbished to euro4 spec with the operated turbo... giving approximately 20% more power over VLWs, VLAs, Abellio's 9000 series and the EVL variants. |
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Post by abellion on May 19, 2019 7:27:26 GMT
A lot of suburban routes are getting the old buses. 270 still runs the old Presidents (such as PJO2 RFE) with the stupidly outdated doors and obnoxious engines. As a former PVL driver I actually prefer those swing exit doors over the plug-in ones, especially where the latter can be a bit clumsy in operation. Regarding the engines I actually like those variants of the B7TLs as most units within the firm were refurbished to euro4 spec with the operated turbo... giving approximately 20% more power over VLWs, VLAs, Abellio's 9000 series and the EVL variants. Good to know that the engines are more powerful. The problem with the doors is just for routes that are busy since people standing by the doors have to constantly move to make space for people alighting, whilst standing out of the door's way. The plug-ins can be a bit buggy but are more convenient. |
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Post by vjaska on May 19, 2019 12:16:28 GMT
A lot of suburban routes are getting the old buses. 270 still runs the old Presidents (such as PJO2 RFE) with the stupidly outdated doors and obnoxious engines. The 270 has one President and I don't understand how it has an obnoxious engine? |
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Post by joefrombow on May 19, 2019 14:53:57 GMT
A lot of suburban routes are getting the old buses. 270 still runs the old Presidents (such as PJO2 RFE) with the stupidly outdated doors and obnoxious engines. The 270 has one President and I don't understand how it has an obnoxious engine? Personally I love a "Dirty" Diesel with a proper gearbox and a bit of kickdown and that strange smell of engine you get at the back of the bus , but these are now a dying breed and in these eco emission friendly times I think London on a whole has done quite well to eliminate them as there really isn't a lot of pre 2005 buses about in London no more none in East London of the top of my head now the Tridents have gone . |
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Post by vjaska on May 19, 2019 15:37:47 GMT
The 270 has one President and I don't understand how it has an obnoxious engine? Personally I love a "Dirty" Diesel with a proper gearbox and a bit of kickdown and that strange smell of engine you get at the back of the bus , but these are now a dying breed and in these eco emission friendly times I think London on a whole has done quite well to eliminate them as there really isn't a lot of pre 2005 buses about in London no more none in East London of the top of my head now the Tridents have gone . There are still a small block of Tridents still running between T, NS & WH and some are pre 2005. |
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Post by M1104 on May 20, 2019 9:40:21 GMT
As a former PVL driver I actually prefer those swing exit doors over the plug-in ones, especially where the latter can be a bit clumsy in operation. Regarding the engines I actually like those variants of the B7TLs as most units within the firm were refurbished to euro4 spec with the operated turbo... giving approximately 20% more power over VLWs, VLAs, Abellio's 9000 series and the EVL variants. Good to know that the engines are more powerful. The problem with the doors is just for routes that are busy since people standing by the doors have to constantly move to make space for people alighting, whilst standing out of the door's way. The plug-ins can be a bit buggy but are more convenient. That's one thing I liked about the Metroline versions where theirs had that tape barrier (or whatever they're called) attached to those doors to help discourage people from standing there. |
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Post by galwhv69 on May 20, 2019 21:24:39 GMT
Personally I love a "Dirty" Diesel with a proper gearbox and a bit of kickdown and that strange smell of engine you get at the back of the bus , but these are now a dying breed and in these eco emission friendly times I think London on a whole has done quite well to eliminate them as there really isn't a lot of pre 2005 buses about in London no more none in East London of the top of my head now the Tridents have gone . There are still a small block of Tridents still running between T, NS & WH and some are pre 2005. There's also some VLA's left |
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Post by rif153 on May 31, 2019 18:27:42 GMT
There are still a small block of Tridents still running between T, NS & WH and some are pre 2005. There's also some VLA's left |
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Post by londonboy71 on May 31, 2019 19:11:55 GMT
Is it the drivers or the design but most modern buses are very sharp on the brakes.
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Post by galwhv69 on May 31, 2019 19:41:59 GMT
There's also some VLA's left Same  , I still hope 57 will somehow survive  |
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 2, 2019 7:24:08 GMT
WVL205 and 111 are still at NP, along with veteran DMN1, all are 2002-2003 vintage  |
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, I still hope 57 will somehow survive 
