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Post by rif153 on Jun 15, 2019 14:02:32 GMT
Ian Yeowart is looking to create a new open access operator to compete with GWR for travel between Cardiff and London. This new operator would be called Grand Union Trains and would run hourly calling intermidately at Bristol Parkway, Severn Tunnel Junction, Cardiff Parkway (when it opens), and Newport. I've never been a fan of a privatised railway but having another operator providing London-Cardiff services would create some competition with GWR and an incentive to provide a better service. Privatisation would work better if we had several operators competing to run similar services, having the railway network split up into franchises just creates a series of monopolies with so little overlap the incentive to compete exists only for bidding rather than as an incentve to provide a quality service Sources: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48615464www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/london-cardiff-train-journey-time-fast-grand-union-gwr-paddington-bristol-parkway-a8959701.html |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 16, 2019 12:10:00 GMT
Maybe they can take advantage of electrification and run for example class 379, from Anglia, or class 91 & Mark 4 carriages once displaced from LNER.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 16, 2019 19:05:21 GMT
Maybe they can take advantage of electrification and run for example class 379, from Anglia, or class 91 & Mark 4 carriages once displaced from LNER. Taken from the BBC article:
'They propose using second-hand 140mph (225 km/h) trains formed of nine coaches and a driving trailer, which have been used by London and North Eastern Railway on the East Coast Main Line.'
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Post by snoggle on Jun 16, 2019 19:27:54 GMT
Has Mr Yeowart ever managed to bring any of his proposed services to fruition since he left Grand Central? He keeps coming up with these "ORCATS raid" services on prime routes but little seems to happen. I suspect he will struggle to get permission for this service largely because the GWML is so full and gets fuller from whenever Crossrail runs its full complement of services from the tunnel to western destinations. The fast lines into Paddington will be very highly utilised and trains with different performance profiles will cause pathing issues. Class 91s are not as fast as IEPs "off the blocks". Excuse me if I don't hold my breath waiting for this service to start. Nothing has happened with the planned Alliance Rail Blackpool - Euston services.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 16, 2019 21:59:16 GMT
Maybe they can take advantage of electrification and run for example class 379, from Anglia, or class 91 & Mark 4 carriages once displaced from LNER. Taken from the BBC article:
'They propose using second-hand 140mph (225 km/h) trains formed of nine coaches and a driving trailer, which have been used by London and North Eastern Railway on the East Coast Main Line.'
Oh ok, sorry I admit to not having read the article. But yes, given the speed of GWR class 800/802 it does make sense for GUT to use faster Inter-City type trains like these. |
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Post by joefrombow on Jun 17, 2019 0:55:09 GMT
Ian Yeowart is looking to create a new open access operator to compete with GWR for travel between Cardiff and London. This new operator would be called Grand Union Trains and would run hourly calling intermidately at Bristol Parkway, Severn Tunnel Junction, Cardiff Parkway (when it opens), and Newport. I've never been a fan of a privatised railway but having another operator providing London-Cardiff services would create some competition with GWR and an incentive to provide a better service. Privatisation would work better if we had several operators competing to run similar services, having the railway network split up into franchises just creates a series of monopolies with so little overlap the incentive to compete exists only for bidding rather than as an incentve to provide a quality service Sources: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48615464www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/london-cardiff-train-journey-time-fast-grand-union-gwr-paddington-bristol-parkway-a8959701.htmlBring it on the fares and I'm talking about the advance fares for London to Cardiff compared to the fares for London to Birmingham or even Manchester for example are Disgustingly overpriced IMO something needs to change . |
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Post by rif153 on Jun 17, 2019 6:26:28 GMT
Taken from the BBC article:
'They propose using second-hand 140mph (225 km/h) trains formed of nine coaches and a driving trailer, which have been used by London and North Eastern Railway on the East Coast Main Line.'
Oh ok, sorry I admit to not having read the article. But yes, given the speed of GWR class 800/802 it does make sense for GUT to use faster Inter-City type trains like these. No need to be sorry |
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Post by MoEnviro on Jun 17, 2019 9:27:08 GMT
As snoggle said it’s highly unlikely to get out of the starting blocks, the headline journey time is only achievable by running at 140mph, something not possible on network at the moment. Not to mention how that would affect all the other GWR trains. Not sure why the newspapers have only just picked up on this given its been around since late March/Early April. I expect it will get quietly dropped when it fails the abstraction and new Economic Equilibrium Tests. |
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