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Post by SILENCED on Jun 18, 2019 13:05:39 GMT
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 18, 2019 15:43:39 GMT
Good to see they'll be two platform islands for northbound and southbound services, while separating the fast tracks. There's nothing worse than being on a train which pulls in on Platform 5 and then having to go through the subway to 3-4 for East Croydon trains.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 18, 2019 16:26:33 GMT
Good proposal. I don't like the layout of Norwood Junction and I find it far too confusing - this will certainly be an improvement. The subway is horrible to navigate because there's not enough room for the vast number of passengers trying to get through the station. I think the hope is that by having two footbridges passengers will spread out and load the train more evenly rather than everyone trying to cram on by the subway. I presume there'll be spurs on/off the fast lines on to the relief lines so that some longer distance Southern/Thameslink trains can serve the station. Overall I'm very happy with this proposal
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 18, 2019 16:29:17 GMT
Good proposal. I don't like the layout of Norwood Junction and I find it far too confusing - this will certainly be an improvement. The subway is horrible to navigate because there's not enough room for the vast number of passengers trying to get through the station. I think the hope is that by having two footbridges passengers will spread out and load the train more evenly rather than everyone trying to cram on by the subway. I presume there'll be spurs on/off the fast lines on to the relief lines so that some longer distanc!Southern/Thameslink trains can serve the station. Overall I'm very happy with this proposal That is my major concern ... that we will lose the fast trains to/from London Bridge ... off to the Stanley Halls information event tomorrow ... that will be my first question! Just a shame the only accessible platform will become less accessible. Make having a drink in the Cherry Trees and move as the train pulls into the station harder, if not impossible!
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 18, 2019 17:12:50 GMT
Good proposal. I don't like the layout of Norwood Junction and I find it far too confusing - this will certainly be an improvement. The subway is horrible to navigate because there's not enough room for the vast number of passengers trying to get through the station. I think the hope is that by having two footbridges passengers will spread out and load the train more evenly rather than everyone trying to cram on by the subway. I presume there'll be spurs on/off the fast lines on to the relief lines so that some longer distanc!Southern/Thameslink trains can serve the station. Overall I'm very happy with this proposal That is my major concern ... that we will lose the fast trains to/from London Bridge ... off to the Stanley Halls information event tomorrow ... that will be my first question! Just a shame the only accessible platform will become less accessible. Make having a drink in the Cherry Trees and move as the train pulls into the station harder, if not impossible! I would have thought London Bridge fasts and Thameslink services will stop at Platform 2 with London Overground and Southern Metro using Platform 1 as now.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 18, 2019 17:42:46 GMT
That is my major concern ... that we will lose the fast trains to/from London Bridge ... off to the Stanley Halls information event tomorrow ... that will be my first question! Just a shame the only accessible platform will become less accessible. Make having a drink in the Cherry Trees and move as the train pulls into the station harder, if not impossible! I would have thought London Bridge fasts and Thameslink services will stop at Platform 2 with London Overground and Southern Metro using Platform 1 as now. The line diagram I have seen labels the Platform 1 line as Victoria Slow and Platform 2 line as London Bridge Slow ... the reality of how they may (or may not) be used, remains to be seen. If the direct NJ London Bridge services are officially classified as slow ... then all well and good. I will be trying to get some assurance on this matter tomorrow.
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Post by snoggle on Jun 18, 2019 18:09:55 GMT
I would have thought London Bridge fasts and Thameslink services will stop at Platform 2 with London Overground and Southern Metro using Platform 1 as now. The line diagram I have seen labels the Platform 1 line as Victoria Slow and Platform 2 line as London Bridge Slow ... the reality of how they may (or may not) be used, remains to be seen. If the direct NJ London Bridge services are officially classified as slow ... then all well and good. I will be trying to get some assurance on this matter tomorrow. Not wishing to state the bleedin' obvious but Network Rail reps can't make any commitments about the shape of future train services and stopping patterns. With franchising service / stopping patterns can disappear at the drop of a hat. The key aspect will be understanding how flexible the track / signalling layout will be and if it supports the particular train service you're keen to keep.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 18, 2019 18:45:23 GMT
If I recall, the current Victoria pattern is 2tph from Sutton, so would be a waste of resources if Platform 1 is only used for those services while London Bridge and Overground use Platform 2.
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