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Post by theexplorer on Jul 17, 2019 21:20:36 GMT
A N106 could be the answer, going via D6 to Crossharbour and it would serve Wood Wharf as well as giving Burdett/Grove Road extra buses as the N277 only has two buses per hour and is very busy at on a weekend!
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Post by londonboy71 on Jul 17, 2019 21:29:40 GMT
A N106 could be the answer, going via D6 to Crossharbour and it would serve Wood Wharf as well as giving Burdett/Grove Road extra buses as the N277 only has two buses per hour and is very busy at on a weekend! N106 was withdrawn about 5 years ago? It covered N253 N55 and others and was light used
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Post by abellion on Jul 18, 2019 15:19:46 GMT
We often think in terms of big routes needing night services, but what about the small ones. Having worked in Tower Hamlets recently, I think a night service over the 309, D6 and possibly 339 would produce a fair patronage. Even if just on Fri/Sat nights. In north London you have the 288 which would plug a few gaps and link the jubilee line with northern line. Although my preference up there would be for a night service over the 142. I sometimes think the Canning Town - Blackwall / All Saints area is overbussed at night with the N15, N550 and N551 - I know they all serve different routes via Isle of Dogs / Highway after this so maybe the following could offer new routes / serve new areas
N550 Extended from Canning Town to Beckton via the current N551 N551 diverted at Burdett Road via daytime D6 to Ash Grove / Hackney Central
*Edit thinking about this a bit more it makes the route a bit circular but think something better could be done with the N550 /1 instead of both routes running to Canning Town.
The point of the N550/N551 is to have a night service to the DLR. TfL will probably not send the N551 away from its purpose to Hackney.
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Post by londonboy71 on Jul 19, 2019 11:06:10 GMT
Just seen on Surrey bus changes a new Night Bus from Aldershot to Camberley hourly !!wow
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Post by londonboy71 on Jul 21, 2019 17:40:43 GMT
New Night Bus idea: Ealing Broadway Pitshanger Lane Greenford Northolt Ruislip Eastcote North Harrow Pinner Northwood Mount Vernon Hospital(N282)? Withdraw N7 between Ruislip and Ealing Broadway OR divert at Yeading via Ruislip Gardens to Ruislip Station.Guves links to areas not covered by Night Bus
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Post by aaron1 on Jul 28, 2019 10:46:48 GMT
Now for North West London There lots of Places that dont have a night bus so one way that can do it is an N16 withdrawn Edgware and Cricklewood rerouted to Alperton, Sainsbury's via 245 to make new night links
Now for Edgware to Victoria route it will be Renumber N32
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Post by route53 on Jul 29, 2019 16:50:48 GMT
I was sadly far too young to have ever experienced the legendary N81 from Victoria to Gillingham, via Westminster, Elephant, Camberwell, Peckham, New Cross, Deptford, Lewisham, Blackheath, Shooters Hill/Woolwich Common, Welling, Bexleyheath, Crayford, Dartford, then onto Gillingham.
This now the N89, which makes sense, however the N89 has to be the strangest night route, it’s daytime variant terminates at Lewisham which is quite a far away from Central London, then runs via Camberwell; am area with no daytime links with anywhere east of Lewisham.
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Post by 6HP502C on Jul 29, 2019 20:14:21 GMT
I was sadly far too young to have ever experienced the legendary N81 from Victoria to Gillingham, via Westminster, Elephant, Camberwell, Peckham, New Cross, Deptford, Lewisham, Blackheath, Shooters Hill/Woolwich Common, Welling, Bexleyheath, Crayford, Dartford, then onto Gillingham. This now the N89, which makes sense, however the N89 has to be the strangest night route, it’s daytime variant terminates at Lewisham which is quite a far away from Central London, then runs via Camberwell; am area with no daytime links with anywhere east of Lewisham. A lot of these routes have a history and a specific reason why they do what they do. This one was probably routed the way it was back when the print industry in Fleet Street generated enough demand for a few night trips. A few others do seemingly odd things - the N21's kink via Bank, the N343's various meanders and double runs, the N3's stop at Kennington Park and the N1's dizzying deviation from what the 1 does in the Surrey Quays area. None of it is by accident!
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 29, 2019 21:19:28 GMT
For a time aswell the N53 diverted via Lewisham and Blackheath station quite usefully and the N109 run via Elephant whereas the day 109 didn't.
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Post by busaholic on Jul 29, 2019 21:23:01 GMT
I was sadly far too young to have ever experienced the legendary N81 from Victoria to Gillingham, via Westminster, Elephant, Camberwell, Peckham, New Cross, Deptford, Lewisham, Blackheath, Shooters Hill/Woolwich Common, Welling, Bexleyheath, Crayford, Dartford, then onto Gillingham. This now the N89, which makes sense, however the N89 has to be the strangest night route, it’s daytime variant terminates at Lewisham which is quite a far away from Central London, then runs via Camberwell; am area with no daytime links with anywhere east of Lewisham. A lot of these routes have a history and a specific reason why they do what they do. This one was probably routed the way it was back when the print industry in Fleet Street generated enough demand for a few night trips. A few others do seemingly odd things - the N21's kink via Bank, the N343's various meanders and double runs, the N3's stop at Kennington Park and the N1's dizzying deviation from what the 1 does in the Surrey Quays area. None of it is by accident! Indeed, and many of the night routes that existed before the N prefix was adopted, and the great expansion of night routes happened, themselves were continuations of night tram and trolleybus services. That is why the Embankment at Charing Cross station was a terminal point for some, and nearby Trafalgar Square for others, long before the 'night time economy' was ever envisaged.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 29, 2019 21:32:33 GMT
Also before the 80s (and many of them continued into the 90s) night route numbers often bared litter resemblance to the day routes of an area and were simply picked from 1 to 99.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 29, 2019 22:32:06 GMT
Also before the 80s (and many of them continued into the 90s) night route numbers often bared litter resemblance to the day routes of an area and were simply picked from 1 to 99. Indeed, that lasted until 1994 I believe when we started to get the network we have today. The 80's night network was restructured in 1984 IIRC - it's been a while since I read the Phillip WAllis night bus book.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 29, 2019 22:34:53 GMT
I think the N3 from Victoria/Marble Arch to Beckenham Junction was the first to use a number that l mirrored a day route in 1989. Thou possibly the N2 started in 1984 from CP to North Finchley later Hampstead Heath.
Renumbering to create the N8, N25, N44, N109, N155 was in 1995? I believe.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 29, 2019 22:39:49 GMT
I think the N3 from Victoria/Marble Arch to Beckenham Junction was the first to use a number that l mirrored a day route in 1989. Thou possibly the N2 started in 1984 from CP to North Finchley later Hampstead Heath. Renumbering to create the N8, N25, N44, N109, N155 was in 1995? I believe. The N78 was renumbered in 1994 to N109
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 29, 2019 22:41:02 GMT
N37 was the first exact copy of a day route that became standard after 2000 through to 2004 when 24h routes were created. With the N25, N27, N33, N53, N65, N72, N83 and N277 the N prefix has made a bit of a revival.
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