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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 5:33:52 GMT
Public transport in and around Dartford is getting busier and slower. Reason is the many hundreds of extra homes being built.
Arriva (Northfleet) are seriously struggling to keep buses on time. Fastrack B has now gone down to 12-13 mins in peaks. Fastrack A withdrawn Greenhithe - Bluewater MF am peak.
Traffic is getting worse.
Arriva (NF) seem to have given up recently.
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Post by greenboy on Feb 6, 2020 11:05:43 GMT
Public transport in and around Dartford is getting busier and slower. Reason is the many hundreds of extra homes being built. Arriva (Northfleet) are seriously struggling to keep buses on time. Fastrack B has now gone down to 12-13 mins in peaks. Fastrack A withdrawn Greenhithe - Bluewater MF am peak. Traffic is getting worse. Arriva (NF) seem to have given up recently. Arriva Northfleet have been struggling for sometime now, their social media account is often full of complaints about missing buses due to staff shortages and breakdowns indeed one of their buses left Bluewater yesterday on a recovery truck and there is a fares increase coming up. In fairness though withdrawing Fastrack A between Greenhithe and Bluewater before 09.00 when usage is low makes sense as it allows for a more frequent service on the rest of the route.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 12:00:53 GMT
Public transport in and around Dartford is getting busier and slower. Reason is the many hundreds of extra homes being built. Arriva (Northfleet) are seriously struggling to keep buses on time. Fastrack B has now gone down to 12-13 mins in peaks. Fastrack A withdrawn Greenhithe - Bluewater MF am peak. Traffic is getting worse. Arriva (NF) seem to have given up recently. Arriva Northfleet have been struggling for sometime now, their social media account is often full of complaints about missing buses due to staff shortages and breakdowns indeed one of their buses left Bluewater yesterday on a recovery truck and there is a fares increase coming up. In fairness though withdrawing Fastrack A between Greenhithe and Bluewater before 09.00 when usage is low makes sense as it allows for a more frequent service on the rest of the route. Agree about the Fastrack A cut , although you simply can't rely on Fastrack B at all. There is a general lack of drivers. A large haulage firm based around here are also struggling to recruit.
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Post by beaver14uk on Feb 6, 2020 18:58:22 GMT
my mate is always being called to cover Fast track routes. Would do it myself but don't want to deal with the cash
quote author="@rob" source="/post/550611/thread" timestamp="1580967232"]Public transport in and around Dartford is getting busier and slower. Reason is the many hundreds of extra homes being built.
Arriva (Northfleet) are seriously struggling to keep buses on time. Fastrack B has now gone down to 12-13 mins in peaks. Fastrack A withdrawn Greenhithe - Bluewater MF am peak.
Traffic is getting worse.
Arriva (NF) seem to have given up recently.[/quote]
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Post by marlon101 on Feb 8, 2020 18:42:26 GMT
my mate is always being called to cover Fast track routes. Would do it myself but don't want to deal with the cash quote author="@rob" source="/post/550611/thread" timestamp="1580967232"]Public transport in and around Dartford is getting busier and slower. Reason is the many hundreds of extra homes being built. Arriva (Northfleet) are seriously struggling to keep buses on time. Fastrack B has now gone down to 12-13 mins in peaks. Fastrack A withdrawn Greenhithe - Bluewater MF am peak. Traffic is getting worse. Arriva (NF) seem to have given up recently. [/quote] I didn't realise you were at NF these days? That said, I'm not always on here any more. What is the main reason for the deteriorating reliability? Is it the driver shortages or the general deterioration in the traffic. I know the London Road seems to be plagued with roadworks and stoppages across its length which can't help.
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Post by Dillon95 on Feb 9, 2020 22:14:32 GMT
Here's a question I've been pondering over. If the 492 was to terminate at Dartford Station, where would it turn around? Returning to Crayford would it go back around the town centre again like it always did before they rerouted the TFL routes to go via the station?
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Post by greenboy on Feb 9, 2020 22:18:26 GMT
Here's a question I've been pondering over. If the 492 was to terminate at Dartford Station, where would it turn around? Returning to Crayford would it go back around the town centre again like it always did before they rerouted the TFL routes to go via the station? I would imagine it would turn round the same as Fastrack A does.
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Post by beaver14uk on Feb 10, 2020 22:21:23 GMT
Home Gardens roundabout quote author=" Dillon95" source="/post/551202/thread" timestamp="1581286472"]Here's a question I've been pondering over. If the 492 was to terminate at Dartford Station, where would it turn around? Returning to Crayford would it go back around the town centre again like it always did before they rerouted the TFL routes to go via the station?[/quote]
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Post by busman on Apr 28, 2020 13:27:17 GMT
Does anyone know the latest on these proposals? TfL pushed through a couple of other consultations and I was surprised that this one is still unresolved, especially as the mayoral election has been postponed until May 2021. TfL stated the reason for the delay as being they received a large volume of responses and were analysing them. Sounds like fluff to me. Someone high up the food chain must have objected strongly. Hopefully the changes will be abandoned or not implemented fully.
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 28, 2020 15:20:26 GMT
It seemed to hinge on the interchange between the 428 and 96. I guess the weigh up is is it worth keeping the 428 to Dartford. After the response to the 384 and how it wouldnt be cost effective if it kept its existing routing then I cant see the 428 surviving to Darford.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 16:22:42 GMT
It seemed to hinge on the interchange between the 428 and 96. I guess the weigh up is is it worth keeping the 428 to Dartford. After the response to the 384 and how it wouldnt be cost effective if it kept its existing routing then I cant see the 428 surviving to Darford. The 428 will be incredibly short if it's cutback to Crayford
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Post by beaver14uk on Apr 28, 2020 16:29:49 GMT
I guess we will leave you all to continue to speculate.
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Post by beaver14uk on Apr 28, 2020 20:23:20 GMT
I am not at NF mate does causal work there. quote author=" marlon101" source="/post/550996/thread" timestamp="1581187346"] my mate is always being called to cover Fast track routes. Would do it myself but don't want to deal with the cash quote author="@rob" source="/post/550611/thread" timestamp="1580967232"]Public transport in and around Dartford is getting busier and slower. Reason is the many hundreds of extra homes being built. Arriva (Northfleet) are seriously struggling to keep buses on time. Fastrack B has now gone down to 12-13 mins in peaks. Fastrack A withdrawn Greenhithe - Bluewater MF am peak. Traffic is getting worse. Arriva (NF) seem to have given up recently. [/quote] I didn't realise you were at NF these days? That said, I'm not always on here any more. What is the main reason for the deteriorating reliability? Is it the driver shortages or the general deterioration in the traffic. I know the London Road seems to be plagued with roadworks and stoppages across its length which can't help. [/quote]
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Post by jackthelad87 on Jul 8, 2020 15:50:03 GMT
Looks like the 492 contract has been retained by Arriva London with existing vehicles but no change to route or timings. I think it was the right decision to retain the Dartford-Bluewater stretch to offer another double deck alternative to help the 96.
It's was announced yesterday that London Borough of Bexley has granted permission for 75 new homes built on North Cray Road. Once completed I think the 492 is going to need a service increase to 3bph to meet demand.
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 8, 2020 16:43:34 GMT
Looks like the 492 contract has been retained by Arriva London with existing vehicles but no change to route or timings. I think it was the right decision to retain the Dartford-Bluewater stretch to offer another double deck alternative to help the 96. It's was announced yesterday that London Borough of Bexley has granted permission for 75 new homes built on North Cray Road. Once completed I think the 492 is going to need a service increase to 3bph to meet demand. Is this official? Normally there's a post on here when tender results are announced and I haven't seen one yet. If it's speculation, rumour or hearsay, please sit on it until the official announcement. EDIT: It's been pointed out to me that it was in the last batch of announcements, so I apologise.
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