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Post by arrivaarriva on Aug 23, 2019 9:24:19 GMT
Curious to know how many bus routes never saw RM/RML vehicles but went straight from RT to front entrance vehicles. I know of only two, because I lived in the area at the time (Southall), the 120 and 232/232A both operating from the original Southall garage opened in 1925 as Hanwell Garage becoming Southall Garage in 1950 and then closing completely in 1986. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by twobellstogo on Aug 23, 2019 9:47:43 GMT
Curious to know how many bus routes never saw RM/RML vehicles but went straight from RT to front entrance vehicles. I know of only two, because I lived in the area at the time (Southall), the 120 and 232/232A both operating from the original Southall garage opened in 1925 as Hanwell Garage becoming Southall Garage in 1950 and then closing completely in 1986. View AttachmentWithout looking it up, 57, 70, 96, 132, 154, 157 all saw RTs, but never Routemasters. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 23, 2019 10:39:25 GMT
80, 280 didn't see them going over in the 1969 and 1974 to OPO respectively. Also I don't think the 89 did either.
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Post by Ted Barclay on Aug 23, 2019 13:20:32 GMT
80, 280 didn't see them going over in the 1969 and 1974 to OPO respectively. Also I don't think the 89 did either. The 89 had a Saturday RM allocation out of New Cross for a while. Ted B |
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Post by Ted Barclay on Aug 23, 2019 13:46:12 GMT
From memory the following routes went straight from RT family operation to one person operation:
# denotes numbers that bear no resemblance to the today's number or have been withdrawn
$ denotes numbers that appeared on RM blinds, but were never recorded as having operated
20, 20A#, 39$, 39A$#. 42, 44, 50, 57, 61, 66A#, 70, 79$, 79A$#, 80, 80A#, 84, 92$, 96, 98$, 103, 107, 107A#, 108, 108B#, 112, 114, 120, 121, 125$, 125A$#, 126, 132, 138, 142$, 145, 152, 154, 157, 160, 160A#, 166, 167, 170, 189#, 194, 195, 200, 203, 204, 209#, 211#, 222, 223#, 224#, 231, 232#, 242#, 246#, 247, 247A#, 252, 273#, 274#, 277$, 280, 289, 292, 294, 297.
Hope that helps
Ted B
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Post by busaholic on Aug 23, 2019 13:59:52 GMT
From memory the following routes went straight from RT family operation to one person operation: # denotes numbers that bear no resemblance to the today's number or have been withdrawn $ denotes numbers that appeared on RM blinds, but were never recorded as having operated 20, 20A#, 39$, 39A$#. 42, 44, 50, 57, 61, 66A#, 70, 79$, 79A$#, 80, 80A#, 84, 92$, 96, 98$, 103, 107, 107A#, 108, 108B#, 112, 114, 120, 121, 125$, 125A$#, 126, 132, 138, 142$, 145, 152, 154, 157, 160, 160A#, 166, 167, 170, 189, 194, 195, 200, 203, 204, 209#, 211, 222, 223#, 224#, 231, 232#, 242#, 246#, 247, 247A#, 252, 273#, 274#, 277$, 280, 289, 292, 294, 297. Hope that helps Ted B Good list, good memory too! Think the 189 needs a # though! I can, off the top of my head, think of two or three more, but I'd better just check first. Of course, if you exclude weekend RM operation quite a few more could be included too. By the way, a nice cover photo on a book in my possession has a fully-blinded RM on the 277, but the caption reveals the location to be the Putney Common terminus of the 22, also worked by CT, and the conductor, one Jim Blake, took the specially-posed photo and confirms that, indeed, no RM ever worked the 277 in reality. |
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Post by mark on Aug 23, 2019 16:19:56 GMT
The 234 (the Croydon one) went from RT operation to XA (with odd appearances by FRM1).
Mark
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Post by Ted Barclay on Aug 23, 2019 22:23:25 GMT
The 234 (the Croydon one) went from RT operation to XA (with odd appearances by FRM1). Mark But it had been worked at weekends by RMs |
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Post by busaholic on Aug 23, 2019 22:53:09 GMT
False memory syndrome was going to lead me to say 90 and 148, but I see they both had weekend RM operation: on the other hand, I was a bit surprised to see the 157 never had weekend RMs, meaning that Anerley Hill never saw an RM in service.
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Post by busaholic on Sept 13, 2019 22:57:24 GMT
Just realised that the 150 should really be included in the list: it went from RT to DMS operation in 1977, though had used RMs at weekends from 1976. Weekend operation by this time cut out the Becontree Heath to Ilford section of route, plus the isolated journeys from Chigwell Row to Lambourne End, so the latter place never officially saw an RM. However, on the last day of crew operation (a Friday) the entire allocation was RM in order to facilitate the transferal of all RTs from Seven Kings Garage, and a picture by Jim Blake of an RM at Lambourne End appears in a new book.
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