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Post by arrivaarriva on Sept 8, 2019 12:46:36 GMT
I was on a 266 from Hammersmith on Friday night tootling through Acton a little before 1:30AM, I saw, going the other way, N207, N7 and N11 all pass by in the space of 5-6 minutes. While it's true they all have different destinations but they all head for Central London. I couldn't help thinking that after the passage of these three buses so close together, anyone wanting to head for Central London would have rather a long wait for the next bus.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 8, 2019 13:40:09 GMT
I was on a 266 from Hammersmith on Friday night tootling through Acton a little before 1:30AM, I saw, going the other way, N207, N7 and N11 all pass by in the space of 5-6 minutes. While it's true they all have different destinations but they all head for Central London. I couldn't help thinking that after the passage of these three buses so close together, anyone wanting to head for Central London would have rather a long wait for the next bus. As it's a Friday night some night routes have an increased frequency so 'in theory' punters may not have to wait as long for the next bus. Also, some schedules are designed so that bus routes pass a point (especially big interchanges) within minutes of each other....or at the same time. One last factor to consider is that at least one of the buses you saw may have been running late.
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Post by rif153 on Sept 9, 2019 20:09:12 GMT
I was on a 266 from Hammersmith on Friday night tootling through Acton a little before 1:30AM, I saw, going the other way, N207, N7 and N11 all pass by in the space of 5-6 minutes. While it's true they all have different destinations but they all head for Central London. I couldn't help thinking that after the passage of these three buses so close together, anyone wanting to head for Central London would have rather a long wait for the next bus. The N7, N11, and N207 don't have much in common east of Acton. Of course both the N7 and N207 go to Oxford Street but generally I think most people waiting for a night bus in Acton would be purposefully waiting for one of the three night routes rather than opting for the first bus. Also when you have different routes timetabled/scheduled differently or running at different frequencies the situation you describe will inevitably arise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 20:13:35 GMT
You have the same issue on day routes were timetables are not coordinated very well. I know some frequencies are different but think more could be done to get operators to work together.
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Post by kmkcheng on Sept 9, 2019 20:23:52 GMT
I was on a 266 from Hammersmith on Friday night tootling through Acton a little before 1:30AM, I saw, going the other way, N207, N7 and N11 all pass by in the space of 5-6 minutes. While it's true they all have different destinations but they all head for Central London. I couldn't help thinking that after the passage of these three buses so close together, anyone wanting to head for Central London would have rather a long wait for the next bus. Same with the (N)13 and N113. They are both 30 minute frequencies but on their common section along Finchley Road, they are timetabled within 5 minutes of each other in both directions.
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Post by 6HP502C on Sept 9, 2019 22:15:22 GMT
I was on a 266 from Hammersmith on Friday night tootling through Acton a little before 1:30AM, I saw, going the other way, N207, N7 and N11 all pass by in the space of 5-6 minutes. While it's true they all have different destinations but they all head for Central London. I couldn't help thinking that after the passage of these three buses so close together, anyone wanting to head for Central London would have rather a long wait for the next bus. I personally wouldn't campaign to change any of them. As mentioned the routes all do very different things. The N207 runs every 7-8 minutes on Friday nights at that point - I don't agree that would constitute "rather a long wait" at night! Now the 36 and N136. They have a 4+ mile parallel section from Victoria to New Cross and they're timed to run as closely together as possible every night!
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Post by enviroPB on Sept 9, 2019 23:54:08 GMT
I was on a 266 from Hammersmith on Friday night tootling through Acton a little before 1:30AM, I saw, going the other way, N207, N7 and N11 all pass by in the space of 5-6 minutes. While it's true they all have different destinations but they all head for Central London. I couldn't help thinking that after the passage of these three buses so close together, anyone wanting to head for Central London would have rather a long wait for the next bus. I personally wouldn't campaign to change any of them. As mentioned the routes all do very different things. The N207 runs every 7-8 minutes on Friday nights at that point - I don't agree that would constitute "rather a long wait" at night! The N207 stopped running at 8bph through to Hayes By-Pass as soon as the Uxbridge leg went up to a 20 minute frequency. Annoyingly neither Timetable Graveyard nor the London Buses website have a date on the timetable change, but it is a change associated to the Night Tube cuts rationalisation and one of the last waves of changes made; my educated guess of the frequency reshuffle is early 2017.
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Post by 6HP502C on Sept 10, 2019 7:39:15 GMT
I personally wouldn't campaign to change any of them. As mentioned the routes all do very different things. The N207 runs every 7-8 minutes on Friday nights at that point - I don't agree that would constitute "rather a long wait" at night! The N207 stopped running at 8bph through to Hayes By-Pass as soon as the Uxbridge leg went up to a 20 minute frequency. Annoyingly neither Timetable Graveyard nor the London Buses website have a date on the timetable change, but it is a change associated to the Night Tube cuts rationalisation and one of the last waves of changes made; my educated guess of the frequency reshuffle is early 2017. Yes, you're correct. In which case the N207 runs every 10 minutes on that section. Still a very frequent service!
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