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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 10, 2019 21:13:00 GMT
I'll add the 366 to that list
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Post by BK15AZR on Oct 11, 2019 16:50:13 GMT
D6 is the quicker link from Mile End to Docklands but I'd usually go for a 277/D7 instead just because the E200MMCs are usually too cramped and you hardly get a seat on it esp right after school hours.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 16:56:39 GMT
D6 is the quicker link from Mile End to Docklands but I'd usually go for a 277/D7 instead just because the E200MMCs are usually too cramped and you hardly get a seat on it esp right after school hours. Personally I would say it's the other way around especially with traffic in East India Dock Road. D7 and 277 go via Westferry then straight into Docklands.
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Post by E279 on Oct 11, 2019 17:32:12 GMT
I avoid the 5, drivers are slow, routes is over regulated, buses are slow. I agree, regulations of up to 5-7 minutes sometimes as well, the thing that doesn’t help is that the EHs are generally faster than the WVLs and the WVLs are VERY slow and according to some of the drivers the breaking isn’t anywhere near as good as the EHs so I assume that due to the speed/breaking of the WVLs it’s easier for the EHs to catch up thereby having to regulate the EHs which means buses further down the route would also be affected.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 11, 2019 17:51:20 GMT
I avoid the 5, drivers are slow, routes is over regulated, buses are slow. I agree, regulations of up to 5-7 minutes sometimes as well, the thing that doesn’t help is that the EHs are generally faster than the WVLs and the WVLs are VERY slow and according to some of the drivers the breaking isn’t anywhere near as good as the EHs so I assume that due to the speed/breaking of the WVLs it’s easier for the EHs to catch up thereby having to regulate the EHs which means buses further down the route would also be affected. The WVLs aren't slow at all, it's just they're timetabled to be as such. If anything the WVLs can be faster than EHs at times.
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Post by E279 on Oct 11, 2019 18:02:01 GMT
I agree, regulations of up to 5-7 minutes sometimes as well, the thing that doesn’t help is that the EHs are generally faster than the WVLs and the WVLs are VERY slow and according to some of the drivers the breaking isn’t anywhere near as good as the EHs so I assume that due to the speed/breaking of the WVLs it’s easier for the EHs to catch up thereby having to regulate the EHs which means buses further down the route would also be affected. The WVLs aren't slow at all, it's just they're timetabled to be as such. If anything the WVLs can be faster than EHs at times. Newer examples I’d agree with but the 59 reg WVLs, I can’t say I agree with, they are incredibly slow. The 61 reg aren’t bad at all.
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Post by rif153 on Oct 11, 2019 19:03:45 GMT
I avoid the 5, drivers are slow, routes is over regulated, buses are slow. I agree, regulations of up to 5-7 minutes sometimes as well, the thing that doesn’t help is that the EHs are generally faster than the WVLs and the WVLs are VERY slow and according to some of the drivers the breaking isn’t anywhere near as good as the EHs so I assume that due to the speed/breaking of the WVLs it’s easier for the EHs to catch up thereby having to regulate the EHs which means buses further down the route would also be affected. Are the WVLs sluggish? I find sluggish Gemini 2s are unbearable.
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Post by E279 on Oct 11, 2019 19:13:14 GMT
I agree, regulations of up to 5-7 minutes sometimes as well, the thing that doesn’t help is that the EHs are generally faster than the WVLs and the WVLs are VERY slow and according to some of the drivers the breaking isn’t anywhere near as good as the EHs so I assume that due to the speed/breaking of the WVLs it’s easier for the EHs to catch up thereby having to regulate the EHs which means buses further down the route would also be affected. Are the WVLs sluggish? I find sluggish Gemini 2s are unbearable. Some are, the 2 WVNs are and so are the 59 reg at RR, some 61 reg examples are quite nippy but it’s a mixed bag with the 61 reg some are nippy some are just awfully slow.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 11, 2019 19:34:36 GMT
The WVLs aren't slow at all, it's just they're timetabled to be as such. If anything the WVLs can be faster than EHs at times. Newer examples I’d agree with but the 59 reg WVLs, I can’t say I agree with, they are incredibly slow. The 61 reg aren’t bad at all. That certainly differs from any 59 reg I've used from RR, usually very quick.
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Post by enviroPB on Oct 11, 2019 20:09:23 GMT
The WVLs aren't slow at all, it's just they're timetabled to be as such. If anything the WVLs can be faster than EHs at times. Newer examples I’d agree with but the 59 reg WVLs, I can’t say I agree with, they are incredibly slow. The 61 reg aren’t bad at all. Well considering the 59reg WVLs were from EL1/2 for 7 years without being refurbished, it makes total sense that they're slugs! I do try to not get on WVL345-349, if I do it's normally late, packed and soon overtaken by another bus. Saying that, 59reg WVL276 is lovely and keeps up with the 61reg models no problems at all.
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Post by LVF_Admin on Oct 11, 2019 20:19:54 GMT
Newer examples I’d agree with but the 59 reg WVLs, I can’t say I agree with, they are incredibly slow. The 61 reg aren’t bad at all. Well considering the 59reg WVLs were from EL1/2 for 7 years without being refurbished, it makes total sense that they're slugs! I do try to not get on WVL345-349, if I do it's normally late, packed and soon overtaken by another bus. Saying that, 59reg WVL276 is lovely and keeps up with the 61reg models no problems at all. Not surprised by WVL276 an ex 321 Bus , not a bad batch, always thought it strange that one ended up over there
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 11, 2019 21:20:08 GMT
I agree, regulations of up to 5-7 minutes sometimes as well, the thing that doesn’t help is that the EHs are generally faster than the WVLs and the WVLs are VERY slow and according to some of the drivers the breaking isn’t anywhere near as good as the EHs so I assume that due to the speed/breaking of the WVLs it’s easier for the EHs to catch up thereby having to regulate the EHs which means buses further down the route would also be affected. The WVLs aren't slow at all, it's just they're timetabled to be as such. If anything the WVLs can be faster than EHs at times. I find they are very slow, even late at night, if the driver has a EH you know its 'show time' with a WVL they are slow party poopers.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 11, 2019 21:40:37 GMT
The WVLs aren't slow at all, it's just they're timetabled to be as such. If anything the WVLs can be faster than EHs at times. I find they are very slow, even late at night, if the driver has a EH you know its 'show time' with a WVL they are slow party poopers. You must have been unlucky because I've had many good WVL rides across different routes in London and a good one just treats hills as a straight road
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Post by abellion on Oct 12, 2019 6:15:51 GMT
493. It gets super packed, the Tooting loop makes it about 4x more unreliable and in general just a slow route. It passes about 1000 secondary schools and the amount of kids going to Tooting from schools in Putney and Wimbledon is surprisingly high. And it goes through Summerstown which is an absolute nightmare no matter what time it is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 14:51:23 GMT
I always avoid the 492 when going to Dartford or Bluewater from Sidcup. It's tediously long and it's so much easier to get the 229 or 269 and the 96.
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