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Post by vjaska on Oct 25, 2019 13:50:15 GMT
As the older buses are more my favourites, I'll do a bit of a twist for garages involving my local routes if people don't mind I'm all for a bit of nostalgia, but... EDRs? Please no. Completely unsuitable for anyone over 5ft tall. I'm happy with DRLs, they had much better legroom, plus nice carpeted interiors on the older ones. IIRC, some had lower seated capacities of B37F as apposed to the usual B40F?
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Post by redexpress on Oct 25, 2019 15:46:08 GMT
I'm all for a bit of nostalgia, but... EDRs? Please no. Completely unsuitable for anyone over 5ft tall. I'm happy with DRLs, they had much better legroom, plus nice carpeted interiors on the older ones. IIRC, some had lower seated capacities of B37F as apposed to the usual B40F? True, and the Metroline EDRs were B39F, although I think they all had similar legroom. I think the differences were more to do with how many seats were fitted over the wheelarches etc.
Come to think of it, as bad as they were, the 9.8m Darts weren't the worst; some of the early Duple/Carlyle-bodied ones had 36 seats in a 9m body!
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Post by LT 20181 on Oct 25, 2019 16:04:21 GMT
Okay, let's have another, proper go. This time, with the garages of the routes I use/like most. I have that wish that routes have neat, tidy allocations. There are also some ideas I have shared in the past, and some fantasy allocation ideas too RATP
Edgware [BT]- Routes 79/142/258 => ADE 40401 - 45 - Route 139 => VH 45101 - 123 & VH 45153 - 155 - Routes 251 & 326 => (as some Edgware-ians don't like the DEs these routes currently use, and I have no idea how likely my fantasy allocation is, but..) 10.2m BYD Enviro200 EVs - Routes 288 & 303 => DLE 30250 - 30266 - Route H12 => ADH 45258 - 45261 & ADH 45278 - 45288 Harrow [SO]- Route 183 => 10.9m BYD Enviro400 EVs - Routes 395 & 398* => 10.2m BYD Enviro200 EVs - Routes H9/H10/H11 => 10.8m BYD Enviro200 EVs - Route H14 => ADH 45289 - 45297 - Routes 223*/H17*/H18/H19 => DLE 30267 - 30283 & DLE 30291 - 30297 *If/when the 223/398/H17 move (back) to SO Park Royal [RP]- Route 18 => VH 45156 - 45162, VH 45216 - 45251 & WH 45252 - Route 220 => ADE 40446 - 40473 - Routes 224 & 283 => DLE 30308 - 30331 - Route 266 => ADH 45003 - 45031 - Route 440 => DME 30361 - 30372 MetrolineUxbridge [UX]- Routes 114 & 222 => VWH2167 - 2186 & VWH2345 - 2361 - Route 331 => DEL 2145 - 2154 - Routes A10/H13/U10 => DE1167 - 1174 & DE1318 - 1326 - Routes U1/U2/U3 => DEL2155 - 2166 & DEL2597 - 2612 - Route U4 => TE1725 - 1738 Greenford [G]- Route 92 => TE1981 - 2000 - Routes 95 & E6 => DE1115 - 1126 & DE1152 - 1166 - Route 282 => TEH1449 - 1467 - Route 482 => TE1715 - 1723 - Route 607 => VMH2577 - 2596 Alperton [ON]- Routes 83 & 483 => VW1365 - 1385 & VW1752 - 1782 - Routes 204 & 487 => TE1073 - 1092
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Post by vjaska on Oct 25, 2019 16:52:59 GMT
IIRC, some had lower seated capacities of B37F as apposed to the usual B40F? True, and the Metroline EDRs were B39F, although I think they all had similar legroom. I think the differences were more to do with how many seats were fitted over the wheelarches etc. Come to think of it, as bad as they were, the 9.8m Darts weren't the worst; some of the early Duple/Carlyle-bodied ones had 36 seats in a 9m body!
Amazing to think many years later, some bus builders didn't exactly learn from that given we have had buses like the pre WTA Enviro 200's & Cadet with poor legroom, particularly at the rear. I might write up a few of these nostalgic ones in others parts of London if people don't mind
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Post by LK65EBO on Oct 25, 2019 18:25:51 GMT
London United RATP Group: Fulwell (FW) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route 371 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 33, 216, K3 and 419 Wright Streetdeck 10.6m for routes 281 and 681 Volvo B5LH 10.6m for routes 65, 71 and 267
Hounslow (AV) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 110, H22 and H98 Alexander Dennis E20D 11.5m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route H37 BYD DD 10.9m/ E40 City for routes 111 and 203 Alexander Dennis E40D 10.2m/ Enviro 400MMC for routes H32, 696 and 697.
Hounslow Heath (HH) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes 423 and 698 Volvo B5LH 10.5 and 10.6m/ Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 got routes 105, 116, 423, 285, 635, 698 and H91
Park Royal (RP) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes H17, 223 and 224 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 400 City got routes 18,220 and N18.
Shepherds Bush (S) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200MMc for routes 70, 72 and C1 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 94 and 148
Stamford Brook (V) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.5m for route 272 Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m for routes 272 and 391 Wright StreetDeck 10.6m for routes 27, N27 and E3 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 9, 27, 211 and N9
Tolworth (TV) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m
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Post by george on Oct 25, 2019 18:29:47 GMT
London United RATP Group: Fulwell (FW) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route 371 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 33, 216, K3 and 419 Wright Streetdeck 10.6m for routes 281 and 681 Volvo B5LH 10.6m for routes 65, 71 and 267 Hounslow (AV) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 110, H22 and H98 Alexander Dennis E20D 11.5m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route H37 BYD DD 10.9m/ E40 City for routes 111 and 203 Alexander Dennis E40D 10.2m/ Enviro 400MMC for routes H32, 696 and 697. Hounslow Heath (HH) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes 423 and 698 Volvo B5LH 10.5 and 10.6m/ Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 got routes 105, 116, 423, 285, 635, 698 and H91 Park Royal (RP) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes H17, 223 and 224 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 400 City got routes 18,220 and N18. Shepherds Bush (S) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200MMc for routes 70, 72 and C1 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 94 and 148 Stamford Brook (V) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.5m for route 272 Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m for routes 272 and 391 Wright StreetDeck 10.6m for routes 27, N27 and E3 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 9, 27, 211 and N9 Tolworth (TV) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m 371 should have double deckers and please no LTs for the 94 😁
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Post by WSD3 on Oct 25, 2019 18:38:58 GMT
London United RATP Group: Fulwell (FW) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route 371 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 33, 216, K3 and 419 Wright Streetdeck 10.6m for routes 281 and 681 Volvo B5LH 10.6m for routes 65, 71 and 267 Hounslow (AV) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 110, H22 and H98 Alexander Dennis E20D 11.5m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route H37 BYD DD 10.9m/ E40 City for routes 111 and 203 Alexander Dennis E40D 10.2m/ Enviro 400MMC for routes H32, 696 and 697. Hounslow Heath (HH) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes 423 and 698 Volvo B5LH 10.5 and 10.6m/ Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 got routes 105, 116, 423, 285, 635, 698 and H91 Park Royal (RP) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes H17, 223 and 224 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 400 City got routes 18,220 and N18. Shepherds Bush (S) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200MMc for routes 70, 72 and C1 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 94 and 148 Stamford Brook (V) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.5m for route 272 Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m for routes 272 and 391 Wright StreetDeck 10.6m for routes 27, N27 and E3 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 9, 27, 211 and N9 Tolworth (TV) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m what about the 266? When it moves to RP
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Post by LK65EBO on Oct 25, 2019 18:52:06 GMT
London United RATP Group: Fulwell (FW) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route 371 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 33, 216, K3 and 419 Wright Streetdeck 10.6m for routes 281 and 681 Volvo B5LH 10.6m for routes 65, 71 and 267 Hounslow (AV) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 110, H22 and H98 Alexander Dennis E20D 11.5m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route H37 BYD DD 10.9m/ E40 City for routes 111 and 203 Alexander Dennis E40D 10.2m/ Enviro 400MMC for routes H32, 696 and 697. Hounslow Heath (HH) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes 423 and 698 Volvo B5LH 10.5 and 10.6m/ Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 got routes 105, 116, 423, 285, 635, 698 and H91 Park Royal (RP) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes H17, 223 and 224 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 400 City got routes 18,220 and N18. Shepherds Bush (S) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200MMc for routes 70, 72 and C1 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 94 and 148 Stamford Brook (V) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.5m for route 272 Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m for routes 272 and 391 Wright StreetDeck 10.6m for routes 27, N27 and E3 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 9, 27, 211 and N9 Tolworth (TV) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m what about the 266? When it moves to RP The B5LH Gemini 3. I like Wright products too much 😂
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Post by galwhv69 on Oct 25, 2019 18:57:15 GMT
what about the 266? When it moves to RP The B5LH Gemini 3. I like Wright Bamford Bus Company products too much 😂 Fixed that for you
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Post by COBO on Oct 25, 2019 21:01:31 GMT
London United RATP Group: Fulwell (FW) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route 371 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 33, 216, K3 and 419 Wright Streetdeck 10.6m for routes 281 and 681 Volvo B5LH 10.6m for routes 65, 71 and 267 Hounslow (AV) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 110, H22 and H98 Alexander Dennis E20D 11.5m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route H37 BYD DD 10.9m/ E40 City for routes 111 and 203 Alexander Dennis E40D 10.2m/ Enviro 400MMC for routes H32, 696 and 697. Hounslow Heath (HH) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes 423 and 698 Volvo B5LH 10.5 and 10.6m/ Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 got routes 105, 116, 423, 285, 635, 698 and H91 Park Royal (RP) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes H17, 223 and 224 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 400 City got routes 18,220 and N18. Shepherds Bush (S) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200MMc for routes 70, 72 and C1 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 94 and 148 Stamford Brook (V) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.5m for route 272 Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m for routes 272 and 391 Wright StreetDeck 10.6m for routes 27, N27 and E3 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 9, 27, 211 and N9 Tolworth (TV) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m LTs won’t be able to get around the 94.
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Post by rif153 on Oct 25, 2019 22:13:50 GMT
London United RATP Group: Fulwell (FW) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route 371 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 33, 216, K3 and 419 Wright Streetdeck 10.6m for routes 281 and 681 Volvo B5LH 10.6m for routes 65, 71 and 267 Hounslow (AV) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200 MMC for routes 110, H22 and H98 Alexander Dennis E20D 11.5m/ Enviro 200 MMC for route H37 BYD DD 10.9m/ E40 City for routes 111 and 203 Alexander Dennis E40D 10.2m/ Enviro 400MMC for routes H32, 696 and 697. Hounslow Heath (HH) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes 423 and 698 Volvo B5LH 10.5 and 10.6m/ Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 got routes 105, 116, 423, 285, 635, 698 and H91 Park Royal (RP) BYD 10.2m/ Enviro 200MMC for routes H17, 223 and 224 BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 400 City got routes 18,220 and N18. Shepherds Bush (S) BYD 10.9m/ Enviro 200MMc for routes 70, 72 and C1 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 94 and 148 Stamford Brook (V) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.5m for route 272 Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m for routes 272 and 391 Wright StreetDeck 10.6m for routes 27, N27 and E3 New Routemaster 11.2m for routes 9, 27, 211 and N9 Tolworth (TV) Alexander Dennis E20D 10.9m I agree with what george said about the 371, and with what COBO said about LTs on the 94 - thankfully tight turns in the Turnham Green area (also referred to as Bedford Park) prevent this excellent route from being lumbered with LTs, its just a shame the 148 wasn't saved.
I would love electrics for the 18, and I think if TfL are serious about cutting pollution on the Euston Road, then electric buses on the 18, as well as the 27, 30, 205 etc. would go a long way to reducing pollution along there.
Interesting to see you go for StreetDecks for the 27 and 281 - certainly an accquired taste. I would point out that the 27 won't be a RATP route for much longer, and neither will the 267 - whilst on the subject of FW, I'd like to point out that FW don't really have a proper allocation for the 71, just a little bit of cross linkage with the N65 so I would have put the 71 under TV, but that's just a bit of pedantry from me.
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Post by george on Oct 25, 2019 22:49:15 GMT
AF.
22. BYD DD Electric/Enviro 400 EV City
337. MHVs
All other allocations stay the same.
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Post by COBO on Oct 25, 2019 23:12:02 GMT
Since were going with old buses: HD: 140: VPs 182: VPs 186: VPLs N5: VPLs N98: VPs ON: 83 and N83: VNLs 204: VPLs 483:VNLs 487: VNLs G: 92: VNZs 95: VNWs 282:TNs 482: SPs 607:TNLs E6: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) UX/UE: 114: VLEs 222: VAs A10: DMPs 331: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) H13: SDPs U1:DMCs U2: DMCs U3: TNs U4: TNs U10: DMCs PA: 31/N31: VNWs 90: SELs 120: VAs 297: TPs 611: TPS N7: TPs PV: 7: TNAs 245: VNWs X: 13: SLEs 23: TNAs 28: VNWs 228: DMLs 328: VNWs 452: TAs V: 9 / N9: VLEs 27 / N27: SLEs 211: TAs 272: DPSs 391: DPSs E3: TNs S: 70: DLFs 72: DPSs 94: TLAs 148: VAs C1: DPSs RP: 18/N18: TNs 220: VAs 223: DMs 224: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) 283: DPSs 398: SDPs 440: DPSs H17: SDPs WJ: 187: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) 206: MMs 226: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) 295: TNs WS: 350: ESs 427: TNLs U5: Vs U7: DCs U9: DPs GW: 195: DMCs 207/N207: TNLs E1: TNs E5: DMs E7: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) E9: TNs E10: DMs E11: DMSs AH: 117: DPs 190: TPs 235: DCs 237: TPs E2: TPs E8: TPS SO / NW: 183:VLPs 395: DEs H9/H10: SDPs H11: SDPs H14: VLPS H18/H19: DWLs and VLWs EW / BT / CP: 32: TAs 79: VNWs 107: VPLs 113 / N113: VPLs 139: TPs 142: VLAs 240: VPLs 251: MMs 258: VNWs 288: DWLs 292: VLPs 303: DWLs 326: DLFs 606: VLAs 642: VLAs H12: VPs W: 16 / N16: TALs 112: TAs 143: DLDs 168: VLWs 189: TPs 210: TAs 266: TAs 268: DLDs 316: DLDs 324: DEs 332: TEs 631: NSMs C11: DLFs H2: NSMs H3:NSMs I miss the old days.
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Post by richard on Oct 25, 2019 23:21:23 GMT
Since were going with old buses: HD: 140: VPs 182: VPs 186: VPLs N5: VPLs N98: VPs ON: 83 and N83: VNLs 204: VPLs 483:VNLs 487: VNLs G: 92: VNZs 95: VNWs 282:TNs 482: SPs 607:TNLs E6: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) UX/UE: 114: VLEs 222: VAs A10: DMPs 331: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) H13: SDPs U1:DMCs U2: DMCs U3: TNs U4: TNs U10: DMCs PA: 31/N31: VNWs 90: SELs 120: VAs 297: TPs 611: TPS N7: TPs PV: 7: TNAs 245: VNWs X: 13: SLEs 23: TNAs 28: VNWs 228: DMLs 328: VNWs 452: TAs V: 9 / N9: VLEs 27 / N27: SLEs 211: TAs 272: DPSs 391: DPSs E3: TNs S: 70: DLFs 72: DPSs 94: TLAs 148: VAs C1: DPSs RP: 18/N18: TNs 220: VAs 223: DMs 224: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) 283: DPSs 398: SDPs 440: DPSs H17: SDPs WJ: 187: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) 206: MMs 226: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) 295: TNs WS: 350: ESs 427: TNLs U5: Vs U7: DCs U9: DPs GW: 195: DMCs 207/N207: TNLs E1: TNs E5: DMs E7: DMLs (Marshall Capitals) E9: TNs E10: DMs E11: DMSs AH: 117: DPs 190: TPs 235: DCs 237: TPs E2: TPs E8: TPS SO / NW: 183:VLPs 395: DEs H9/H10: SDPs H11: SDPs H14: VLPS H18/H19: DWLs and VLWs EW / BT / CP: 32: TAs 79: VNWs 107: VPLs 113 / N113: VPLs 139: TPs 142: VLAs 240: VPLs 251: MMs 258: VNWs 288: DWLs 292: VLPs 303: DWLs 326: DLFs 606: VLAs 642: VLAs H12: VPs W: 16 / N16: TALs 112: TAs 143: DLDs 168: VLWs 189: TPs 210: TAs 266: TAs 268: DLDs 316: DLDs 324: DEs 332: TEs 631: NSMs C11: DLFs H2: NSMs H3:NSMs I miss the old days. I remember most of those you mentioned as new VP,VPL,VLA,VNW,TA (only metroline ones) DLD,DWL,TP, TPL TNL,TNA now all gone exept a handful of VLAs at DX 😢
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Post by YY13VKP on Oct 26, 2019 0:43:57 GMT
I'm also going to throw it back to the old days, to at least 2007/8 with current routes (all Metrobus and Abellio vehicles are detailed since they don't follow a strict fleet numbering)
Metrobus Croydon (C) 119 - Scania N94UD/OmniDekka 127 - Scania N94UD/OmniDekka 197 - Scania N230UD/Optare Olympus 202 - Scania OmniCity DD 355 - Scania OmniCity SD 359 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 10.8m 403 - Scania OmniCity DD 405 - Scania N230UD/OmniDekka 434 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 8.8m 455 - DAF SB120/Wright Cadet 10.2m 663 - Dennis Trident/East Lancs Lolyne X26 - Scania N230UD/OmniDekka
Orpington (MB) 126 - Scania OmniCity SD 138 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 8.8m 162 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 8.8m 208 - Scania OmniCity DD 227 - Scania OmniCity SD 233 - Dennis Dart SLF/Esteem 8.8m 246 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 10.8m 320 - Scania N94UD/OmniDekka 352 - Dennis Dart SLF 8.8m 353 - Scania N94UD/OmniDekka 358 - Scania OmniCity SD R1 - Dennis Dart SLF/Esteem 8.8m R2 - Scania OmniTown/Esteem R3 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 8.8m R4 - Optare Solo 8.8m R5/10 - Optare Solo 8.8m R6 - Dennis Dart SLF/Esteem 8.8m R8 - Optare Solo 7.8m R9 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 10.8m R11 - Scania OmniTown/Esteem
Go-Ahead London Merton (AL) 44 - PVL's 57 - WVL's 131 - AVL's 152 - PVL's 163 - LDP's 164 - LDP's 200 - LDP's 219 - DW's 270 - AVL's 280 - PVL's
Sutton (A) 80 - LDP's 93 - EVL's 151 - WVL's 154 - AVL's 213 - PVL's
Camberwell (Q) 12 - WVL's 35 - AVL's 40 - EVL's 42 - WVL's 100 - LDP's 176 - PVL's 185 - PVL's 188 - EVL's 360 - DW's 507 - MAL's 521 - MAL P5 - LDP's X68 - WVL's
Stockwell (SW) 11 - PVL's 77 - EVL's 87 - WVL's 88 - WVL's 118 - AVL's 155 - PVL's 170 - MEC's 315 - LDP's 322 - LDP's 432 - PVL's G1 - LDP's
Arriva London South Croydon (TC) 60 - DW's 166 - ADL's 194 - DLA's 264 - DLA's 312 - PDL's 405D - VLA's 412 - DW's 466 - DW's 612 - DW's 627 - DLA's 685 - DLA's
Thornton Heath (TH) 64 - DW's 198 - VLA's 250 - DLA's 255 - ADL's 289 - PDL's 410 - DWS's 689 - L's
Brixton (BN) 50 - DW's 59 - VLA's 133 - DLA's 137 - VLA's 319 - DW's 333 - DLA's
Norwood (N) 2 - VLA's 137 - VLA's 157 - VLA's 249 - DW's 417 - DLA's 450 - DWS's 468 - DW's 690 - DLA's
Abellio London Beddington Cross (BC) 109 - DAF DB250/Wright Pulsar Gemini 201 - Dennis Dart/Caetano Nimbus 367 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 8.8m 407 - Dennis Trident/ALX400 433 - Dennis Dart/Plaxton Pointer 10.8m 464 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 8.8m S4 - Optare Solo 8.8m
Walworth (WL) 3 - Dennis Trident/ALX400 45 - Volvo B7TL/Wright Eclipse Gemini 68 - Volvo B7TL/Wright Eclipse Gemini 196 - Dennis Trident/ALX400 381 - Scania N230UD/Olympus 415 - Dennis Trident/ALX400 484 - DAF SB120/Wright Cadet 9.6m C10 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 10.8m P13 - DAF SB120/Wright Cadet 9.6m
Fulwell (TF) 290 - Dennis Dart SLF/Caetano Nimbus 481 - Optare Solo 8.8m 490 - Volvo B7TL/Wright Eclipse Gemini H20 - Optare Solo 8.8m H25 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 10.8m H26 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 8.8m H28 - Dennis Dart SLF/Caetano Nimbus K1 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 8.8m R68 - Dennis Dart SLF/Caetano Nimbus R70 - Dennis Dart SLF/Plaxton Pointer 10.8m
RATP London Epsom (EB) 293: MCL's 404: OS's 406: TA's 413: MCL's 418: VLE's 463: OS's 465: DPS's 467: VLE's 470: DPK's K5: DPK's S1: OS's S3: DPK's
Fulwell (FW) 33: DPS's 65: TLA's 71: TA's 216: OV's 267: SP's 281: VA's 371: SP's 411: MCL's 419: DPS's K3: DPS's
Tolworth (TV) 85: TLA's 265: DPS's K2: DPS's K4: DPK's
Hounslow (AV) 110: MCL's 111: TA's 203: DPS's H22: DPS's H32: VP's H37: MCL's H98: DPS's
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