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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 17, 2019 20:30:05 GMT
It's important to remember that XR is made up of countless splinter factions. The groups that I've dealt with on the job were perfectly reasonable, understanding that we do have jobs to do and that means keeping the travelling public safe aswell as protesters staying out of harm's way. This mornings stunt was clearly lead by a few deluded individuals who don't represent the entire movement but obviously that won't stop the public perception of that spreading like wildfire.
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Post by rif153 on Oct 17, 2019 21:20:40 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50079716The scenes at Stratford Canning Town are absoloutely shocking, I never thought I'd see such violence on the tube in my life. It just shows how frustrated these people are with XR trying to make their lives a misery by disrupting the environmentally friendly, and electric London Underground. I mean I'm not a fan of them disrupting public transport but at the very least they could at least do some research and protest on a line which uses diesel trains.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 17, 2019 21:25:42 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50079716The scenes at Stratford are absoloutely shocking, I never thought I'd see such violence on the tube in my life. It just shows how frustrated these people are with XR trying to make their lives a misery by disrupting the environmentally friendly, and electric London Underground. I mean I'm not a fan of them disrupting public transport but at the very least they could at least do some research and protest on a line which uses diesel trains. I'm assuming you mean Canning Town Stratford for once wasn't actually the target. I dread to think what would have happened if they had tried protesting there, although might have been entertaining to see how the protestors were tackled there.
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Post by rif153 on Oct 17, 2019 21:28:16 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50079716The scenes at Stratford are absoloutely shocking, I never thought I'd see such violence on the tube in my life. It just shows how frustrated these people are with XR trying to make their lives a misery by disrupting the environmentally friendly, and electric London Underground. I mean I'm not a fan of them disrupting public transport but at the very least they could at least do some research and protest on a line which uses diesel trains. I'm assuming you mean Canning Town Stratford for once wasn't actually the target. I dread to think what would have happened if they had tried protesting there, although might have been entertaining to see how the protestors were tackled there. Yes sorry I did. I know I would be furious if someone was standing on top of the tube train I wanted to go home on, just like how they grounded a plane at City Airport the other day.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 17, 2019 21:32:05 GMT
I'm assuming you mean Canning Town Stratford for once wasn't actually the target. I dread to think what would have happened if they had tried protesting there, although might have been entertaining to see how the protestors were tackled there. Yes sorry I did. I know I would be furious if someone was standing on top of the tube train I wanted to go home on, just like how they grounded a plane at City Airport the other day. I really do wonder how on earth one of them even managed to get that close to the plane in the first place, then let alone climb on. They were either very committed to a point they brought a ticket or someone at LCY has a lot of explaining to do regarding a very serious security breach. Thankfully due to the size of the airport it was easy to apprehend the protestor but I dread to think what that would have done at LHR. I better stop giving them ideas
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 17, 2019 22:14:33 GMT
Apparently these morons disrupted dlr and jubilee line today morning. At Canning Town - commuters dragged one of the protestors off the roof of a jubilee line and have them a good ol’ Thrashing. Saw a video on Facebook I normally don’t condone violence but must say these extinction rebellion guys have just been p****g me off as this thrashing was well deserved. Disrupting people’s lives and causing people to be docked wages is not exactly going to get them much support. In fact I think this will have put several people off supporting environmental causes I fully agree and they deserve it, bunch of idiotic crusties. I hope they get more beatings. I also got held up this morning with the clowns on the train in front of me on the Central line, by the idiots pulling the panic alarm. End result were a train full of peeed of people at 6:30am trying to go to work. It then took 10 mins to get on the move, as I guess police had to remove them from the train, all train drivers were told to stop at next station and not move. I have seen these idiots from XR use violence against police etc they are NOT peaceful and the majority of them are thugs who are members of other anarchist groups like anti capitalist etc. I was fuming also to see around Trafalgar Square the amounts of rubbish with plenty plastic these clown left on the ground after so called trying to be tree huggers, people were taking pics of it. I do not buy this climate change leftist bull crap and would hardly ever would. Now the mayor has turned his tact today moaning at Exrebellion after moaning at the government previously saying they were wrong to stop them protesting.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 17, 2019 22:19:30 GMT
Agreed that a thrashing is not well deserved. Rightfully those that have committed a crime have been arrested this morning according to the BTP. My question is why have we not seen XR in the likes of Chelsea, Kingston or Kensington...? Instead targeting working class who have no option but tube or bus travel. Sorry for pruning your post but it was essentially what I wanted to comment about. News sources state 2 people have been arrested and there were only two protesters on top of the train. I think everyone can do the maths for themselves... Your other point is icing on the cake. ALL XR protests on the Tube network have been conducted in east London, why's that then?! A spokesperson suggested it's because it's safer* than doing it below ground, but there's loads of above-ground stations in west London. There's also a financial district in the Square Mile & there's some subsurface stations in the vicinity. Yet for some reason they choose to target Shadwell, Canary Wharf, Canning Town and Stratford stations for the eastern financial district but nothing for the Square Mile district. Just like me spotting a Chelsea tracktor (top end Range Rover to be precise) used to tow a trailer on the first day of these sets of protests, it's utter bias. They can't deny this middle class divide in their protests on public transport after today, and the class divide as a whole with their protests overall. *Don't underestimate how much east Londoners value public transport, or else!! One of their idiots pulled the alarm at Liverpool St station.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 17, 2019 22:24:23 GMT
Watched the lunchtime ITV news and they had one of the founders of ER on giving the usual politician style answers. However, her last response was interesting - when asked would ER protest on public transport again, her reply was, "I don't think so, probably not" However, this is a lie because if they block roads, then they're affecting buses which is....,public transport! The mayor says he is unhappy with ER for disrupting public transport, name dropping the Tube & DLR specifically due to today's events but in the past has never mentioned buses when they've been severely disrupted - funny that! The mayor is simply a yo-yo hypocrite. He was all well good blowing their trumpet over the past few days. If commuters had join them protesting, he would have been on the bandwagon saying it was a good thing. but now he has seen the other side of how the public are getting frustrated with the excessive 15 mins of fame.
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Post by Hassaan on Oct 17, 2019 22:33:34 GMT
Yes sorry I did. I know I would be furious if someone was standing on top of the tube train I wanted to go home on, just like how they grounded a plane at City Airport the other day. I really do wonder how on earth one of them even managed to get that close to the plane in the first place, then let alone climb on. They were either very committed to a point they brought a ticket or someone at LCY has a lot of explaining to do regarding a very serious security breach. Thankfully due to the size of the airport it was easy to apprehend the protestor but I dread to think what that would have done at LHR. I better stop giving them ideas My guess would be access via the Royal Docks, whether swimming in the water or using boats from the rowing club Coming back to the Canning Town incident, I saw someone elsewhere comment on whether the entire response would have been upgraded to a counter-terrorism one if the protestors were of a different ethnicity. Can't help but wonder…
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 17, 2019 22:33:47 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50079716The scenes at Stratford Canning Town are absoloutely shocking, I never thought I'd see such violence on the tube in my life. It just shows how frustrated these people are with XR trying to make their lives a misery by disrupting the environmentally friendly, and electric London Underground. I mean I'm not a fan of them disrupting public transport but at the very least they could at least do some research and protest on a line which uses diesel trains. try using the night tube on a Saturday night, plenty of punch ups and mass brawls.
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Post by enviroPB on Oct 18, 2019 0:40:43 GMT
Yes sorry I did. I know I would be furious if someone was standing on top of the tube train I wanted to go home on, just like how they grounded a plane at City Airport the other day. I really do wonder how on earth one of them even managed to get that close to the plane in the first place, then let alone climb on. They were either very committed to a point they brought a ticket or someone at LCY has a lot of explaining to do regarding a very serious security breach. Thankfully due to the size of the airport it was easy to apprehend the protestor but I dread to think what that would have done at LHR. I better stop giving them ideas They [the protesters] actually tried to buy swarm tickets for a flight to gain legal access to a plane for their protests. I've been thinking about their 'strategy': pretty sure XR wanted to target stations that had no police presence or had close proximity to police forces that could respond to their protests quickly. Makes sense as to why there there is no footage of disruption at Stratford, BTP likely has officers stationed there or has a base very close to the station. The damage's been done today (yesterday), public support is now not on their side after recent events, and I'm happy people on social media picked up on their bias on targeting stations in east London particularly. They could easily have done their does at West Ruslip (unlikely, which is why I mentioned it), but their socio-economic bias meant they targeted mostly low paid workers at Canning Town. Safe to say it backfired spectacularly against them!
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 18, 2019 12:24:33 GMT
I really do wonder how on earth one of them even managed to get that close to the plane in the first place, then let alone climb on. They were either very committed to a point they brought a ticket or someone at LCY has a lot of explaining to do regarding a very serious security breach. Thankfully due to the size of the airport it was easy to apprehend the protestor but I dread to think what that would have done at LHR. I better stop giving them ideas They [the protesters] actually tried to buy swarm tickets for a flight to gain legal access to a plane for their protests. I've been thinking about their 'strategy': pretty sure XR wanted to target stations that had no police presence or had close proximity to police forces that could respond to their protests quickly. Makes sense as to why there there is no footage of disruption at Stratford, BTP likely has officers stationed there or has a base very close to the station. The damage's been done today (yesterday), public support is now not on their side after recent events, and I'm happy people on social media picked up on their bias on targeting stations in east London particularly. They could easily have done their does at West Ruslip (unlikely, which is why I mentioned it), but their socio-economic bias meant they targeted mostly low paid workers at Canning Town. Safe to say it backfired spectacularly against them! I also feel XR are fuelled by left wing media outlets like the BBC which used to be neutral, but now have lost their moral compass imo. The BBC are also hypocrites as they were giving full total coverage of all XR events on their London new page, they then didn't even show when XR turned up outside the BBC to protest which I think is ridiculous, they love to make all other organisations look bad, but then silenced news coverage of protests outside their building. After the XR protest at the BBC they reduced the amount of coverage they were giving them.
Looking at this www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50095911 all of the people charged with the train protests yesterday, none of them live in London. This is ridiculous, why don't they go in their own home counties and do this on the trains and buses there. I guess its also a hatred & jealousy over the London system than anything else. If XR really wanted people like me to take them serious, do something like a national litter pick day. This imo is the biggest problem no matter what material, far too much litter thrown indiscriminately on the streets, parks etc.
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Post by route53 on Oct 22, 2019 0:17:50 GMT
I understand that we need to do something about climate change, but I’m sorry XR were utterly in the wrong here, why target working class areas? Why not target Kensington or Hampstead instead? Or is that too close to home for the crusty people?
People work on zero Hour contracts or are agency workers who literally won’t get paid if they miss s days work and in London, even in the cheapest areas, that can make a difference between someone paying their rent on time or eating or paying bills or topping up your Oyster card.
XR are a bunch of our of touch rich brats who do not realise that the working class and some middle class professionals actually have to work and aren’t to blame for climate change!
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Post by richard on Oct 22, 2019 3:11:22 GMT
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 22, 2019 11:01:09 GMT
Total cost of policing the groups action this year has now ballooned to over £37 million.
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