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Post by george on Nov 8, 2019 17:53:14 GMT
route 337 will be pretty bad to drive at the moment I think, delays of up to 40 minutes every evening meaning hardly any stand time in Richmond.
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Post by Volvo on Nov 8, 2019 19:26:42 GMT
route 337 will be pretty bad to drive at the moment I think, delays of up to 40 minutes every evening meaning hardly any stand time in Richmond. That just sounds very annoying. |
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Post by george on Nov 8, 2019 19:58:22 GMT
route 337 will be pretty bad to drive at the moment I think, delays of up to 40 minutes every evening meaning hardly any stand time in Richmond. That just sounds very annoying. Indeed it is, driver of E162 had a stand time of 1 minute apparently. There is an absolutely fantastic driver though who informs passengers that the bus will be held up in a considerable amount of traffic caused by the early evening closure of Richmond park and the long time closure of Hammersmith Bridge. |
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Post by rif153 on Nov 8, 2019 21:18:47 GMT
route 337 will be pretty bad to drive at the moment I think, delays of up to 40 minutes every evening meaning hardly any stand time in Richmond. What do you think can be done to help the struggling 337? |
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Post by george on Nov 8, 2019 22:06:35 GMT
route 337 will be pretty bad to drive at the moment I think, delays of up to 40 minutes every evening meaning hardly any stand time in Richmond. What do you think can be done to help the struggling 337? I'm not sure it's a tricky one, the traffic starts at Roehampton Lane (Queens ride) and ends at Clifford Avenue (Berwyn Road), I think cutting the route to Wandsworth might be a good start as Wandsworth to Clapham has enough bus services already. |
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Post by enviroPB on Nov 9, 2019 11:18:51 GMT
A few from me
325 - A very long way round (Almost full circle) from Prince Regent Station to Beckton. Travels through so very busy tight roads via busy shopping areas such as Forest Gate and East Ham.
5 - Again a long route picking up non stop. The 5 is almost like two routes seems to takes a huge number of passengers from Romford to Barking then picks up more local passengers from Barking to Canning Town. Some short routes must be tedious simply for the fact you bust do so many rounders. I am thinking a route like the 323 which takes about 15 mins from Mile End to Canning Town.
The 5 is two routes in effect - Romford and Canning Town were never directly connected by any day route since WW2, and probably for very good reason. The creation of the present-day 5 owes as much to the desire (obsession?) of some then high up in TfL to use the number 87 to re-number the last suffix route, the 77A. If the sensible thing were done and the 5 was split into two overlapping routes for much of the day, then it might operate better, but orthodoxy precludes this, to the detriment of the general public. Though the 5 empties out at Barking to be immediately filled up again for the rest of its journey, the through route does help so is kinda pointless splitting up the 5. If you compare it to the similar trunk route 86, you see a noticeably more amount of passengers heading past Ilford, but is akin to how people decant en masse in Barking for the 5. The 86 though will naturally have more people going through Ilford heading to Seven Kings in particular as there is no other route in the area. |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 9, 2019 16:47:22 GMT
route 337 will be pretty bad to drive at the moment I think, delays of up to 40 minutes every evening meaning hardly any stand time in Richmond. That used to be one of my favourite routes, a good thrash with a Metro on that last rounder. |
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Post by george on Nov 9, 2019 17:00:15 GMT
route 337 will be pretty bad to drive at the moment I think, delays of up to 40 minutes every evening meaning hardly any stand time in Richmond. That used to be one of my favourite routes, a good thrash with a Metro on the late shifts, especially in the Sheen area It's all changed now along with all other routes in East Sheen, if you are going from Putney to East Sheen it's now quicker to get the 378 and walk over railway bridge. |
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Post by bottomless on Nov 10, 2019 1:40:22 GMT
Having driven many routes in my time, did not like the 479 from Kingston to Bookham as far too much running time. At TV was not a fan of the K1 or the 57, K1 went nowhere and took ages to do so, and the 57 felt like there was a target on your bus as you drove along Streatham High Road. At FW routes were ok but did not like SLE vehicles, very tight in the cab. At AV thought 111 and N9 ok, but H32 least favourite as you could lose a whole rounder just going along Western Road on a Sunday if bad. At RP route H17 for parking around Harrow School, and 398 in evening, a whole 2 minutes recovery time! For timekeeping worst bus has to be the SP, which regularly gets out accelerated by arthritic snails.
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Post by Volvo on Nov 10, 2019 8:44:34 GMT
Having driven many routes in my time, did not like the 479 from Kingston to Bookham as far too much running time. At TV was not a fan of the K1 or the 57, K1 went nowhere and took ages to do so, and the 57 felt like there was a target on your bus as you drove along Streatham High Road. At FW routes were ok but did not like SLE vehicles, very tight in the cab. At AV thought 111 and N9 ok, but H32 least favourite as you could lose a whole rounder just going along Western Road on a Sunday if bad. At RP route H17 for parking around Harrow School, and 398 in evening, a whole 2 minutes recovery time! For timekeeping worst bus has to be the SP, which regularly gets out accelerated by arthritic snails. K1 went nowhere and took ages to do so, SP - out accelerated by arthritic snails. loooooool ROFL. I'm sorry this whole post had me in stitches I agree about the Harrow School part on the 258. I simply don't understand how Harrow council allow single yellow line parking in certain spots. For timekeeping for me worst bus has to be a bad VH. Though the SPs we have are not far off. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 19, 2019 2:42:11 GMT
The 30mph zone is a short section between Lordship Lane in Dulwich and the junction of London Road/Dartmouth Road in Forest Hill on the 197. 30mph kicks in again on the Lewisham/Bromley border just before St. Christopher's Hospice on Lawrie Park Road. Indeed as I believe Southwark is now another 20mph borough? It is, the only section of road served by the 176 in Southwark is managed by TfL which is 30mph on Lordship Lane between Melford Road and Wood Vale. |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 19, 2019 10:32:59 GMT
For me it was the N11 during the time when only the crap buses were officially allowed, ie the non-11 branded WVLs, many of which didn't have any working kickdown at all... certainly not the best given the running time then on that route. The branded ones were then far superior as they were quick off the mark with the then new 4-speed Voith spec. Unfortunately they were not to be used so as to avoid being randomly allocated onto other routes during the morning output. No PDL Tridents nor PVLs were officially allowed either as the garage wanted strictly WVLs...but that eventually didn't stop some of us taking buses to the contrary where the N11 was then a much better route.
In essence some routes can be the best or worst depending on the buses allocated to it. For me it was similarly with the 133 after the VCs were restricted, the worst route to drive with some sluggish¹ Volvos yet a delight to drive with a good Metro, especially the B reg examples which had higher revv pullaway that were equivalent to the Cummin engine batch then based at BN.
¹ ‐ Also time consuming at stops with their high three-step entrance/exit
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Post by LK65EBO on Nov 19, 2019 16:39:25 GMT
Having driven many routes in my time, did not like the 479 from Kingston to Bookham as far too much running time. At TV was not a fan of the K1 or the 57, K1 went nowhere and took ages to do so, and the 57 felt like there was a target on your bus as you drove along Streatham High Road. At FW routes were ok but did not like SLE vehicles, very tight in the cab. At AV thought 111 and N9 ok, but H32 least favourite as you could lose a whole rounder just going along Western Road on a Sunday if bad. At RP route H17 for parking around Harrow School, and 398 in evening, a whole 2 minutes recovery time! For timekeeping worst bus has to be the SP, which regularly gets out accelerated by arthritic snails. The low floor SPs are beasts. My 635 driver beat the VH on the 116 by miles at the traffic lights. |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 19, 2019 17:51:23 GMT
Having driven many routes in my time, did not like the 479 from Kingston to Bookham as far too much running time. At TV was not a fan of the K1 or the 57, K1 went nowhere and took ages to do so, and the 57 felt like there was a target on your bus as you drove along Streatham High Road. At FW routes were ok but did not like SLE vehicles, very tight in the cab. At AV thought 111 and N9 ok, but H32 least favourite as you could lose a whole rounder just going along Western Road on a Sunday if bad. At RP route H17 for parking around Harrow School, and 398 in evening, a whole 2 minutes recovery time! For timekeeping worst bus has to be the SP, which regularly gets out accelerated by arthritic snails. The low floor SPs are beasts. My 635 driver beat the VH on the 116 by miles at the traffic lights. It's not hard to beat a VH off the lights if the electric motor has kicked in on the VH as they only accelerate so far before waiting for the engine to take over whereas a SP merely accelerates like your everyday vehicle. |
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Post by Volvo on Nov 23, 2019 18:55:14 GMT
This route if you can call it that is just getting worse and worse and worse. Traffic is just everywhere from Watford Way all the way down to Waterloo and back, you have no where enough running time (for example at around now it is timetabled 1 hour 15 there about but with all this traffic takes 1 hour 30 plus. You then have 5 minutes at each end and back to doing the same nonsense again going the other wway as you hardly get turned (they prefer you run late and finish late it seems actually if I'm honest). All the while driving buses that move like Nelson's column and passengers and pedestrians and road users who have the same intelligence as cement!!
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