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Post by george on Jan 14, 2020 14:17:37 GMT
337 back to Arriva.
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Post by rj131 on Jan 14, 2020 14:19:56 GMT
The 176 back to Arriva - I grew up with the 176 always being an Arriva route and the move to Go Ahead although made perfect sense and came as no surprise still does not feel particularly right to me. The number 1 return I had always wanted was the 25 back to Stagecoach, well The 5, 15 and 115 are more routes I'd like to see Stagecoach getting back, although I've got to give Go Ahead credit they'd honestly pretty much mastered the 5. Just that it's regulation every other minute. The 15 has noticeable become worse under them, I imagine it was just a route thrown into a potential joint bid and it did actually end up working out cheaper overall. However there are many little "tricks" if you'd like they use to maximise mileage such as the buses which do Aldwych to TSQ multiple times then head back to the garage - I'd be surprised if they keep it at RR next tender. The 139 back to Metroline, but like the 25 Even though I’d love to see 115 back at Stagecoach, it does quite well with RR as well. Under them I’d say the 115 is one of the most tightly timetabled routes in London, all the drivers seem to absolutely cane it on that route, no hanging around at all. Complete contrast to the 5 and EL2.
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Post by busoccultation on Jan 14, 2020 14:21:40 GMT
5, 15, 115, 69, 101, 158, 175, 262 and 473 back to Stagecoach. Add the 101, 103, 104 & 147 to that list of back to Stagecoach and that will be my own wish as well
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 14, 2020 14:26:27 GMT
The 176 back to Arriva - I grew up with the 176 always being an Arriva route and the move to Go Ahead although made perfect sense and came as no surprise still does not feel particularly right to me. The number 1 return I had always wanted was the 25 back to Stagecoach, well The 5, 15 and 115 are more routes I'd like to see Stagecoach getting back, although I've got to give Go Ahead credit they'd honestly pretty much mastered the 5. Just that it's regulation every other minute. The 15 has noticeable become worse under them, I imagine it was just a route thrown into a potential joint bid and it did actually end up working out cheaper overall. However there are many little "tricks" if you'd like they use to maximise mileage such as the buses which do Aldwych to TSQ multiple times then head back to the garage - I'd be surprised if they keep it at RR next tender. The 139 back to Metroline, but like the 25 Even though I’d love to see 115 back at Stagecoach, it does quite well with RR as well. Under them I’d say the 115 is one of the most tightly timetabled routes in London, all the drivers seem to absolutely cane it on that route, no hanging around at all. Complete contrast to the 5 and EL2. I didn't mention the 115 for that specific reason It does indeed seem to be quite tightly timetabled, I had a driver pelting it down the route the other day however when the route is affected by roadworks it seems to fall apart pretty quickly unlike the 5 which seems to manage through most sorts of disruption.
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Post by richard on Jan 14, 2020 14:48:26 GMT
I wish that following went back to First London: 7, 18, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 30, 31, 67, 70, 76, 79, 83, 91, 92, 95, 105, 187, 191, 203, 207, 222, 223, 224, 226, 228, 231, 245, 258, 259, 266, 285, 295, 297, 299, 331, 341, 357, 389, 399, 414, 425, 427, 476, 487, 490, 607, A10, E1, E3, E5, E6, E7, E9, E10, E11, N7, U1, U2, U3, U4, U10, W4, N7, N18, N26, N28, N31, N91 and N207. Bloody hell First London operated a lot routes over it’s run and that’s not all of it. Technically First has never operated the 425. They won it on tender but by the time the contract started, they had already been bought by Tower Transit And not forgetting Docklands buses they had it from 2008 until 2013
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 14, 2020 14:50:28 GMT
I wish that following went back to First London: 7, 18, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 30, 31, 67, 70, 76, 79, 83, 91, 92, 95, 105, 187, 191, 203, 207, 222, 223, 224, 226, 228, 231, 245, 258, 259, 266, 285, 295, 297, 299, 331, 341, 357, 389, 399, 414, 425, 427, 476, 487, 490, 607, A10, E1, E3, E5, E6, E7, E9, E10, E11, N7, U1, U2, U3, U4, U10, W4, N7, N18, N26, N28, N31, N91 and N207. Bloody hell First London operated a lot routes over it’s run and that’s not all of it. Hmmm, but First London, is no more, so how would this happen???
If it is on this basis, I would like to see London Transport re-created with the LBL divisions before privitisation, i.e. London Forest, East London, Selkent, London Northern, Centrewest etc.. Any garage that was demolished for housing, rebuilt.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 14, 2020 15:21:15 GMT
Routes I would like to see go back;
Arriva to regain - W14, W15, W16, 67, 76, 106, 109, 176, 135, 393, 444, 397, 159, 20, 307, 125, 382, 462
Stagecoach to regain 26/N26, 230, 30, 69, 15, 115, 5, 101, 147, 100, 300, 364, 276, 376
Metroline to regain 326, 24, 214, 232, 251
Go-Ahead to regain 45,
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 14, 2020 16:20:39 GMT
I'd like HCT Group to get the 153 back, for purely sentimental reasons - it was their first-ever TfL contract back in 2001. Whoever ended up with the 212, they can keep it!
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Post by Dillon95 on Jan 14, 2020 16:23:21 GMT
51 and 269 back to Stagecoach B14 back go Go Ahead B14'to bx or mb I would like all B routes to be ran from Bexleyheath and all R routes to be ran from Orpington so they are uniformed.
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Post by Green Kitten on Jan 14, 2020 16:53:16 GMT
15 to Stagecoach 27 to London United 31/N31 to Tower Transit 159 to Arriva 214 to Metroline
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Post by galwhv69 on Jan 14, 2020 17:00:49 GMT
337 to Arriva 85 to Go Ahead 493 to NCP (Well Metroline)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 17:19:42 GMT
162 Arriva 307 Arriva 126 Arriva
57 London United 290 London United 337 London United
13 Metroline 34 Metroline
295 Tower Transit
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Post by rif153 on Jan 14, 2020 20:44:41 GMT
188 back to Abellio
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 20:48:28 GMT
I agree with others about the 115 it really is run well from RR and a big fan of the EH's.
I hope the 15 returns to Stagecoach on the next tender (From WH this time due to space) and would love to see the 69 awarded to Stagecoach with new electric buses. Knowing NP if that had space they would try and nab to go with the other electric routes 212,230,357!
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Post by LT 20181 on Jan 14, 2020 20:50:20 GMT
114, 292, H13 back to London Sovereign ☺️ 153 & 212 back with CT Plus 433 & 466 back with Metrobus
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