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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 26, 2020 9:26:52 GMT
Would like to see the X26 with RATP. I agree. In fact I feel inclined to shun route X26 at Heathrow in July, as it feels like Go-Ahead overkill to ride GA yet again.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 26, 2020 9:35:07 GMT
Out of curiosity, why does everyone want the 295 back with TT? Not long ago everyone was saying how well WJ run it and how it has improved since they gained it, Though each to their own I guess. X is nearer, and so is S, and possibly QB (although Abellio have never run route 295). Also, route 295 goes nowhere near the Metropolitan or Northern Lines. Routes 197 & 403 to Arriva and 161 & 466 to Metrobus.
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Post by kmkcheng on Jan 26, 2020 11:26:22 GMT
Out of curiosity, why does everyone want the 295 back with TT? Not long ago everyone was saying how well WJ run it and how it has improved since they gained it, Though each to their own I guess. X is nearer, and so is S, and possibly QB (although Abellio have never run route 295). Also, route 295 goes nowhere near the Metropolitan or Northern Lines. The 295 does parallel the old Metropolitan line between Ladbroke Grove and Hammersmith before it was renamed the Hammersmith & City Line. It is one of those routes that could see quite a bit of competition when it’s tendered. QB and Go-Ahead is a possibility as London General has run it previously from Battersea and SW
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Post by John tuthill on Jan 26, 2020 12:00:57 GMT
These are just purely for selfish reasons as the operators currently operating them are fine: 45 to London Central - I grew up with it always run from Q first with the lovely T’s, then NV’s, the AVL’s and then the PVL’s 57 to London United - miss seeing London United in Streatham 118 to Arriva - remember it running with M’s, would of been interesting to see if it gained a DLA allocation if London General didn’t win it 159 to Arriva - still odd not to see it peeking out of BN though I don’t miss the changeover outside I miss route 118 at BN in particular. AL made some sense but not SW, as it feels too far north.
I miss route 96 with previous operators Arriva (DT) and to a lesser extent London Central (BX). Route 237 seems too important a route in Hounslow not to have remained with London United (AV). Route 326 back to Metroline. London Sovereign makes sense in Harrow and to some extent Edgware, but route 326 is almost as silly for them as soon to depart route 139. Don't forget the 37 was based at SW and that 'met' the 118 at the Old town stand
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Post by redexpress on Jan 26, 2020 13:42:00 GMT
These are just purely for selfish reasons as the operators currently operating them are fine: 45 to London Central - I grew up with it always run from Q first with the lovely T’s, then NV’s, the AVL’s and then the PVL’s 57 to London United - miss seeing London United in Streatham 118 to Arriva - remember it running with M’s, would of been interesting to see if it gained a DLA allocation if London General didn’t win it 159 to Arriva - still odd not to see it peeking out of BN though I don’t miss the changeover outside I miss route 118 at BN in particular. AL made some sense but not SW, as it feels too far north. I miss route 96 with previous operators Arriva (DT) and to a lesser extent London Central (BX). Route 237 seems too important a route in Hounslow not to have remained with London United (AV). Route 326 back to Metroline. London Sovereign makes sense in Harrow and to some extent Edgware, but route 326 is almost as silly for them as soon to depart route 139.
Although the 96 has a long history of BX operation, this was before London Central had anything to do with the garage. Remember LC only took control of BX when Bexleybus closed, at which point the 96 was transferred to Kentish Bus.
When Sovereign first won the 326 I was quite surprised, but thinking about it it does make sense. Metroline (and previously London Northern) ran the route from garages that were close to one end but very remote from the other end (think of the distances involved in PB - Brent Cross, or W - Barnet). Edgware is actually very well placed to reach both ends of the route (and indeed intermediate points on the route) quite quickly. Of course Metroline would also have the option of running the route from EW if they were to win it.
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Post by redexpress on Jan 26, 2020 13:47:20 GMT
I miss route 118 at BN in particular. AL made some sense but not SW, as it feels too far north.
Don't forget the 37 was based at SW and that 'met' the 118 at the Old town stand
It's a long time since the 118 went to Old Town. So long ago, in fact, that its old route between Streatham and Clapham Common has been taken over by another route not once, but three times (118 > 60 > 255 > 50)! It does meet the 37 at Brixton though.
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Post by John tuthill on Jan 26, 2020 14:42:25 GMT
Don't forget the 37 was based at SW and that 'met' the 118 at the Old town stand It's a long time since the 118 went to Old Town. So long ago, in fact, that its old route between Streatham and Clapham Common has been taken over by another route not once, but three times (118 > 60 > 255 > 50)! It does meet the 37 at Brixton though.
Thanks for that, shows you I often I visit Clapham, or is Claaam thes days?
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 26, 2020 17:42:07 GMT
I miss route 118 at BN in particular. AL made some sense but not SW, as it feels too far north.
I miss route 96 with previous operators Arriva (DT) and to a lesser extent London Central (BX). Route 237 seems too important a route in Hounslow not to have remained with London United (AV). Route 326 back to Metroline. London Sovereign makes sense in Harrow and to some extent Edgware, but route 326 is almost as silly for them as soon to depart route 139. Don't forget the 37 was based at SW and that 'met' the 118 at the Old town stand The difference is that route 37 goes east - west, but route 118 goes north - south. SW is nice and central for route 37, and it could even move back if space is needed at PM for extra routes locally such as route 78, 177 or P13.
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Post by george on Jan 26, 2020 18:21:28 GMT
Don't forget the 37 was based at SW and that 'met' the 118 at the Old town stand The difference is that route 37 goes east - west, but route 118 goes north - south. SW is nice and central for route 37, and it could even move back if space is needed at PM for extra routes locally such as route 78, 177 or P13. Really hope Arriva retain the 78 when it's up for tender. A 381 win may be a good fit to go into PM but then again it would much more likely move across the street into Q.
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Post by rif153 on Jan 26, 2020 19:12:30 GMT
267 back to RATP
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Post by LK65EBO on Jan 26, 2020 19:13:44 GMT
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Post by COBO on Jan 26, 2020 19:17:41 GMT
N550 and N551 Tower Transit
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 26, 2020 19:22:23 GMT
The 176 back to Arriva - I grew up with the 176 always being an Arriva route and the move to Go Ahead although made perfect sense and came as no surprise still does not feel particularly right to me. I'm old enough to remember when the 176 was run out of WL and Q the first time round. However it did have a long run with the same company under various brands from London & Country, Londonlinks, Cowie South London to Arriva London South. (Those of us who can remember when London & Country borrowed buses from South Yorkshire when the tender started!) The 185 I'd like to see go back to TL under Stagecoach, until 2001 it was a long serving route from there, then a patchy period under London Easylink before it went bust, then East Thames Buses and now GAL where it has settled down. Can't fault GAL's management of the route however.
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Post by vjaska on Jan 26, 2020 19:27:25 GMT
Don't forget the 37 was based at SW and that 'met' the 118 at the Old town stand The difference is that route 37 goes east - west, but route 118 goes north - south. SW is nice and central for route 37, and it could even move back if space is needed at PM for extra routes locally such as route 78, 177 or P13. I've said for years now that I'd like to see the 37 move to SW more so because I'd see it's reliability improving being operated more centrally than at the PM end.
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Post by rif153 on Jan 26, 2020 19:27:45 GMT
Don't really care where the 27 is as I don't use it anymore, but for me it feels strange as the 267 has always been so synoymous with FW for me.
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