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Post by COBO on Jun 21, 2020 18:40:02 GMT
490 needs a night to provide a night between Heathrow Terminals 4 & 5 with Richmond. The N285 covers part of the way - can change to an N9 to travel to T5. 490 needs a night to provide a night between Heathrow Terminals 4 & 5 with Richmond. The N285 covers part of the way - can change to an N9 to travel to T5. And what about the parts not covered by the N285 like the Richmond to Apex Corner part?
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Post by COBO on Jun 21, 2020 18:40:31 GMT
490 needs a night to provide a night between Heathrow Terminals 4 & 5 with Richmond. The 490 already has a very early start with the first journey reaching Terminal 5 by 04.00, and the last bus departing Terminal 5 at 00.35. This covers all flights and shift times. Except in emergencies flights are not allowed or scheduled to take off and land during the small hours. It used to be the case that the 490 was the first route to restart on Boxing Day after the Christmas Day shutdown, I don't know if that is still true or not. But what about the workers who work at Heathrow?
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Post by vjaska on Jun 21, 2020 18:54:47 GMT
The 490 already has a very early start with the first journey reaching Terminal 5 by 04.00, and the last bus departing Terminal 5 at 00.35. This covers all flights and shift times. Except in emergencies flights are not allowed or scheduled to take off and land during the small hours. It used to be the case that the 490 was the first route to restart on Boxing Day after the Christmas Day shutdown, I don't know if that is still true or not. But what about the workers who work at Heathrow? He covered that in his post where it says, “this covers all flights & shift times”
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Post by COBO on Jun 21, 2020 18:55:20 GMT
But what about the workers who work at Heathrow? He covered that in his post where it says, “this covers all flights & shift times” Oh right.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 21, 2020 20:23:04 GMT
The general night shift for alot is 10.30 till 6.30 or maybe 9.30 till 7.30 so the need for night routes to serve places that have night workers is always needed as much as people think. As we know the last day routes are around midnight or later and the first now about 5.30 meaning most night shift workers are covered by the day service.
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Post by george on Jun 21, 2020 20:26:08 GMT
The general night shift for alot is 10.30 till 6.30 or maybe 9.30 till 7.30 so the need for night routes to serve places that have night workers is always needed as much as people think. As we know the last day routes are around midnight or later and the first now about 5.30 meaning most night shift workers are covered by the day service. a general shift for Supervisors at a London Underground station works something like this. 07.00 to 15.00,15.00 to 23.00 and then 23.00 to 07.00.
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Post by VIN on Jun 21, 2020 21:38:54 GMT
I've always wondered why a long route such as the 122 hasn't been made 24hr, not least for the weekends. It covers a wide range of areas in the south east, and in particular links some routes that would otherwise have to be connected with via a costly detour. If you consider that routes such as the (N)321 and (N)47 are justified being kept running around when they're barely used, and are already supported by the N21 and N199 respectively, the 122 would certainly feel a lot more useful to provide a night time service in the south east.
Extending the N171 to Lewisham via Hither Green Lane, or an N108 to Hither Green station via Hither Green Lane also seem like logical suggestions to get a bit more coverage. Especially with the latter, the same amount of buses can be used to offset the almost half hour stand time at Stratford Int.
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Post by towertransit70 on Jun 25, 2020 21:19:32 GMT
Hi all.. I think the 95 should be a 24 hour route because it predominately serves the A40 which can help create a direct link between the West Ruislip - North Acton branch not being night tubed. The 95 pretty much serves: Shepherds Bush White City East Acton North Acton Hanger Lane Perivale - 10 Mins walk from Central Parade Greenford - 10 Mins walk from Greenford Road Roundabout... However, the Shepherds Bush - Wood Lane corridor is also served by N72 and N220... What do u guys think?
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Post by COBO on Jun 26, 2020 1:09:59 GMT
Hi all.. I think the 95 should be a 24 hour route because it predominately serves the A40 which can help create a direct link between the West Ruislip - North Acton branch not being night tubed. The 95 pretty much serves: Shepherds Bush White City East Acton North Acton Hanger Lane Perivale - 10 Mins walk from Central Parade Greenford - 10 Mins walk from Greenford Road Roundabout... However, the Shepherds Bush - Wood Lane corridor is also served by N72 and N220... What do u guys think? Extend the N105 to Shepherds Bush instead would be my suggestion.
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Post by COBO on Jul 14, 2020 5:35:26 GMT
N27: withdrawn between Kensington High Street and Hammersmith. Diverted to Chelsea World End via route 328 to Chelsea World End (maybe further via N31 to Clapham Junction). To resore links lost by route N31. N28: Withdrawn between Kilburn High Road and Camden Town. Diverted to Golders Green via route 328 to Golders Green. To link Wandsworth and Golders Green at night. N31: withdrawn between Notting Hill Gate and Clapham Junction. Diverted to White City via route 31 to White City. To provide a night service between Camden Town and White City.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jul 14, 2020 8:12:27 GMT
N27: withdrawn between Kensington High Street and Hammersmith. Diverted to Chelsea World End via route 328 to Chelsea World End (maybe further via N31 to Clapham Junction). To resore links lost by route N31. N28: Withdrawn between Kilburn High Road and Camden Town. Diverted to Golders Green via route 328 to Golders Green. To link Wandsworth and Golders Green at night. N31: withdrawn between Notting Hill Gate and Clapham Junction. Diverted to White City via route 31 to White City. To provide a night service between Camden Town and White City. If you were to do that to the N31 I would highly suggest turf it off at Shepherds Bush. Or, keep the N31 as it is and divert the N27 to Shepherd's Bush.
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Post by COBO on Jul 14, 2020 8:27:56 GMT
N27: withdrawn between Kensington High Street and Hammersmith. Diverted to Chelsea World End via route 328 to Chelsea World End (maybe further via N31 to Clapham Junction). To resore links lost by route N31. N28: Withdrawn between Kilburn High Road and Camden Town. Diverted to Golders Green via route 328 to Golders Green. To link Wandsworth and Golders Green at night. N31: withdrawn between Notting Hill Gate and Clapham Junction. Diverted to White City via route 31 to White City. To provide a night service between Camden Town and White City. If you were to do that to the N31 I would highly suggest turf it off at Shepherds Bush. Or, keep the N31 as it is and divert the N27 to Shepherd's Bush. Why turf it off at Shepherd's Bush?
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jul 14, 2020 8:40:41 GMT
If you were to do that to the N31 I would highly suggest turf it off at Shepherds Bush. Or, keep the N31 as it is and divert the N27 to Shepherd's Bush. Why turf it off at Shepherd's Bush? No point in running it to White City. Waste of mileage
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Post by greg on Jul 14, 2020 11:00:41 GMT
N27: withdrawn between Kensington High Street and Hammersmith. Diverted to Chelsea World End via route 328 to Chelsea World End (maybe further via N31 to Clapham Junction). To resore links lost by route N31. N28: Withdrawn between Kilburn High Road and Camden Town. Diverted to Golders Green via route 328 to Golders Green. To link Wandsworth and Golders Green at night. N31: withdrawn between Notting Hill Gate and Clapham Junction. Diverted to White City via route 31 to White City. To provide a night service between Camden Town and White City. If im honest, don’t think there is need for an N31 at Shepherd’s Bush, it’s just down the road and you already have the 94 and 148. It could get a lot of night links, but with the 1hour fare thingy and with no traffic at night, shouldn’t be an issue. I do agree with the N28 going to Golders Green, i think the N28 and N31 is a bit extra. I would restructure the N31 and renumber it as N328 between Clapham and then to Golders Green from Notting Hill via the 328. Then have the N28 just continue to Camden and the 31 as a daily route.
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Post by COBO on Jul 14, 2020 15:52:59 GMT
Why turf it off at Shepherd's Bush? No point in running it to White City. Waste of mileage What’s the reason for that?
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