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Post by aaron1 on Feb 18, 2020 11:26:05 GMT
Hello what are your thoughts on LTs/route masters going one door I know there doing this stop people not pay for the buses
I have not seen any people pay on the buses but is not as bad the bendy buses which have a nick name the free buses
so what do you think about this
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Post by greenboy on Feb 18, 2020 11:55:05 GMT
Hello what are your thoughts on LTs/route masters going one door I know there doing this stop people not pay for the buses I have not seen any people pay on the buses but is not as bad the bendy buses which have a nick name the free buses so what do you think about this Is anybody other than TfL surprised that open boarding has lead to fare evasion? The recent change seems very much a case of closing the gate long after the horse has bolted. |
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Post by LK65EBO on Feb 18, 2020 12:02:42 GMT
Hello what are your thoughts on LTs/route masters going one door I know there doing this stop people not pay for the buses I have not seen any people pay on the buses but is not as bad the bendy buses which have a nick name the free buses so what do you think about this There is already a thread about this. |
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Post by mw83 on Feb 18, 2020 14:16:09 GMT
People will still try to use middle doors how will it be controlled
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Post by bustavane on Feb 18, 2020 18:14:15 GMT
Hello what are your thoughts on LTs/route masters going one door I know there doing this stop people not pay for the buses I have not seen any people pay on the buses but is not as bad the bendy buses which have a nick name the free buses so what do you think about this I thought Routemasters had no doors - just a platform entrance/exit at the back. |
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Post by aaron1 on Feb 18, 2020 19:13:47 GMT
Hello what are your thoughts on LTs/route masters going one door I know there doing this stop people not pay for the buses I have not seen any people pay on the buses but is not as bad the bendy buses which have a nick name the free buses so what do you think about this I thought Routemasters had no doors - just a platform entrance/exit at the back. What I meant was the people will use one door for entrance and 2 doors for exit |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 20:35:01 GMT
People will still try to use middle doors how will it be controlled It is controlled to a certain extent as the rear doors are now opened and closed separately on routes 8 and 55 and 267. Other routes will be gradually converted.
We will have to see how things go once all routes are converted. People that don't want to pay will always find a way round the system.
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 19, 2020 4:09:53 GMT
People will still try to use middle doors how will it be controlled It is controlled to a certain extent as the rear doors are now opened and closed separately on routes 8 and 55 and 267. Other routes will be gradually converted. We will have to see how things go once all routes are converted. People that don't want to pay will always find a way round the system.
I'm just gonna wait for the 254's rear doors to open last innit, Fam  Unless there's no one else at the stop who wants to get off, this might be a tricky one to enforce. I thought the whole idea of 3 doors was for shorter dwell times (wait, people don't really use the buses anymore  )... so unless all London just goes single door like everywhere else, there is no real way to enforce this. Factor in a dodgy Wayfarer, will the drivers have to take the bus out of service, or could they wave people on like before? Will they remove the other readers or deactivate them? Makes the LT even more pointless than before, especially with issues for parts. A lot of them are starting to look scruffy. Lord knows what Ash Grove were doing in terms of presentation. Their former batch now on the 19 looks a mess. I've seen gaffer tape holding panels and all sorts. Bojo, like normal, bit off more than he could chew... |
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Post by M1104 on Feb 19, 2020 14:22:47 GMT
It is controlled to a certain extent as the rear doors are now opened and closed separately on routes 8 and 55 and 267. Other routes will be gradually converted. We will have to see how things go once all routes are converted. People that don't want to pay will always find a way round the system.
I'm just gonna wait for the 254's rear doors to open last innit, Fam Unless there's no one else at the stop who wants to get off, this might be a tricky one to enforce. I thought the whole idea of 3 doors was for shorter dwell times (wait, people don't really use the buses anymore )... so unless all London just goes single door like everywhere else, there is no real way to enforce this. Factor in a dodgy Wayfarer, will the drivers have to take the bus out of service, or could they wave people on like before? Will they remove the other readers or deactivate them? Makes the LT even more pointless than before, especially with issues for parts. A lot of them are starting to look scruffy. Lord knows what Ash Grove were doing in terms of presentation. Their former batch now on the 19 looks a mess. I've seen gaffer tape holding panels and all sorts. Bojo, like normal, bit off more than he could chew... It's somewhat interesting that the readers have simply been switched off and not removed, unless it will be done in one go once all the relevant routes have converted. |
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Post by routemasterlover on Feb 19, 2020 14:55:58 GMT
Is it me or has it really become a reality now?
Earlier when I was in Brixton, I was trying to get on the 415 at the rear end and the driver said that it is now a one door route.
So is this going to be a thing for all routes or was it a driver just being difficult?
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 19, 2020 15:13:03 GMT
Is it me or has it really become a reality now? Earlier when I was in Brixton, I was trying to get on the 415 at the rear end and the driver said that it is now a one door route. So is this going to be a thing for all routes or was it a driver just being difficult? Should just be the 8/55/267 and associated night routes at present as far as I am aware. I believe WL routes are scheduled next, so maybe driver was getting ahead of themselves. |
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Post by greenboy on Feb 19, 2020 16:10:00 GMT
Is it me or has it really become a reality now? Earlier when I was in Brixton, I was trying to get on the 415 at the rear end and the driver said that it is now a one door route. So is this going to be a thing for all routes or was it a driver just being difficult? Sounds like a driver making up their own set of rules. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 19, 2020 17:52:41 GMT
Is it me or has it really become a reality now? Earlier when I was in Brixton, I was trying to get on the 415 at the rear end and the driver said that it is now a one door route. So is this going to be a thing for all routes or was it a driver just being difficult? Driver being difficult I'm afraid - the 415 hasn't succumbed to the new ruling yet. |
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Post by Trafalgax on Feb 19, 2020 20:11:55 GMT
Is it me or has it really become a reality now? Earlier when I was in Brixton, I was trying to get on the 415 at the rear end and the driver said that it is now a one door route. So is this going to be a thing for all routes or was it a driver just being difficult? That happened to me when i tried to get on the 148 at Sherpherd's Bush. I waited for like a good 10 seconds at the middle doors only for the driver to tell me that i have to board the fronts doors only. And then when it comes to the next stop, the idiot opens all the doors and even lets the passengers board though the middle and rear door without saying a thing to them. (This was in 2019 btw) |
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)... so unless all London just goes single door like everywhere else, there is no real way to enforce this. Factor in a dodgy Wayfarer, will the drivers have to take the bus out of service, or could they wave people on like before? Will they remove the other readers or deactivate them?
