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Post by speller on Feb 24, 2020 6:04:54 GMT
Which bus routes are getting Full Electric buses?
Which bus routes are likely to get Full Electric buses?
Which bus routes will convert from New Routemasters to Electic buses?
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 24, 2020 8:07:54 GMT
So far the 212, 106, 230, C3, 23, 173 and 174 likely in that order are next to convert.
After that potentially every route will convert at some point to either electric or hydrogen depending how the first batch on the 7 go.
Can't give a time frame for when other routes will convert. Looking through the tender page there are very few DD routes this year that will require new buses so may be sometime till we see more.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 24, 2020 9:43:23 GMT
So far the 212, 106, 230, C3, 23, 173 and 174 likely in that order are next to convert. After that potentially every route will convert at some point to either electric or hydrogen depending how the first batch on the 7 go. Can't give a time frame for when other routes will convert. Looking through the tender page there are very few DD routes this year that will require new buses so may be sometime till we see more. Don't forget the 319, 357, 444, C10 & P5 will be definitely converting as well. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 24, 2020 9:55:32 GMT
Yes ofcourse. 319 will probably be after the 173 around the same time as the 174.
Would be good if the new buses for the 7 enter as quickly as the 94 have but I'd be surprised if they did.
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Post by M1104 on Feb 24, 2020 11:12:57 GMT
Which bus routes will convert from New Routemasters to Electic buses? Sadly none that we know of though it would be great if Arriva could do so with the 137 in its bid for retention |
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 24, 2020 11:18:42 GMT
I can see TFL still trying to keep the NB4Ls for as long as possible. The large outlay on them, the fact they are now payed for cuts down the costs of tenders, can be transferred from one operator to another and that they will be responsible for disposing of them which is basically impossible being a total non standard design.
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Post by speller on Feb 24, 2020 23:59:10 GMT
NB4Ls at the minimum will stay for their 14 year life. Probably in the 2 or 3 years or so the NB4L successor will be created which will just be the same with a different name.
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Post by M1104 on Feb 25, 2020 1:02:02 GMT
NB4Ls at the minimum will stay for their 14 year life. Probably in the 2 or 3 years or so the NB4L successor will be created which will just be the same with a different name. Hopefully the powers that be would have learnt their lessons enough not to once again order a mass number of 3-door buses. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 25, 2020 1:14:05 GMT
NB4Ls at the minimum will stay for their 14 year life. Probably in the 2 or 3 years or so the NB4L successor will be created which will just be the same with a different name. I don't believe any successor or Khan himself has committed to another non essential vehicle so can't see one suddenly popping out of thin air. |
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Post by richard on Feb 25, 2020 1:38:05 GMT
Which bus routes will convert from New Routemasters to Electic buses? Sadly none that we know of though it would be great if Arriva could do so with the 137 in its bid for retention If we are sticking with Arriva I hope the ones at AR will be the first to get electrics |
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Post by snowman on Feb 25, 2020 6:57:29 GMT
Which bus routes will convert from New Routemasters to Electic buses? Sadly none that we know of though it would be great if Arriva could do so with the 137 in its bid for retention You need to look at the tender programme, as only likely to convert upon new contract. For many contracts something existing in the Operators fleet may be used However these is a possibility of route swaps, Operators may offer to put new buses on a high profile or Central London route and move the existing buses to a suburban route |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 10:37:50 GMT
NB4Ls at the minimum will stay for their 14 year life. Probably in the 2 or 3 years or so the NB4L successor will be created which will just be the same with a different name. April the 1st gets earlier and earlier every year. |
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Post by kmkcheng on Feb 27, 2020 6:46:55 GMT
NB4Ls at the minimum will stay for their 14 year life. Probably in the 2 or 3 years or so the NB4L successor will be created which will just be the same with a different name. Very much doubt it. TfL have no money to spend on designing some custom bus replacement that won’t have much value outside of London. They’ll just tender out future routes by letting operators order buses that are currently available on the market |
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Post by redbus on Feb 27, 2020 19:59:30 GMT
I look at it this way. If the government want to get rid of petrol, diesel and hybrid vehicles by 2032 that will no doubt include buses. Political will is more likely to bring that date forward rather than pushing the date back. If a bus has a 14 year life who want to order a bus now to enter service in say 2021 and only get 11 life out of it. Even if it is sold off its value would be reduced, so suddenly the cost of hybrid buses over the 14 year lifespan is increasing. Given how few new DDs will be needed in the coming year, I shall stick my neck out and say that I don't think many more new DD hybrid buses will be ordered.
Existing DDs will no doubt be worked to death, especially LTs as TfL own them.
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 27, 2020 21:26:02 GMT
Strictly speaking when the government talked about 2040, 2035 and then 2032 is the last date petrol and diesel vehicles can be purchased. Tfl initially said that from 2037 all buses would be zero emmison in service not just the last that can be purchased.
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