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Post by N230UD on Mar 7, 2020 17:09:36 GMT
Though I do imagine they’ll be regular blockages at Stratford. There is one one piddly stop to serve Nat ex stansted, airport bus express, Megabus, national express cross country services. Can see the bus station being blocked more regularly! One has to wonder whether Stratford really needs three services from different companies. I guess time will tell. I wonder if TfL will allow Arriva to stop there? For example, TfL have been very strict with non-TfL operators at Waltham Cross Bus Station, with some routes forced elsewhere in the past.
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Post by N230UD on Mar 7, 2020 17:59:04 GMT
According to LOTS, 16 Mercedes-Benz Tourismos will be used and based at a Stansted outstation.
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Post by N230UD on Mar 8, 2020 18:26:51 GMT
The timetable has now been published by Arriva, and it shows it will operate daily to a 24 hour timetable. It will have a 20 min frequency for most of the day, dropping to half hourly at night.
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Post by busaholic on Mar 8, 2020 18:54:08 GMT
The timetable has now been published by Arriva, and it shows it will operate daily to a 24 hour timetable. It will have a 20 min frequency for most of the day, dropping to half hourly at night. That's an incredibly optimistic frequency, and I have severe doubts it can be maintained for anything other than the barest minimum of weeks, even if coronavirus had never reared its ugly head.
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Post by driver027 on Mar 9, 2020 3:30:34 GMT
The timetable has now been published by Arriva, and it shows it will operate daily to a 24 hour timetable. It will have a 20 min frequency for most of the day, dropping to half hourly at night. That's an incredibly optimistic frequency, and I have severe doubts it can be maintained for anything other than the barest minimum of weeks, even if coronavirus had never reared its ugly head. Especially with Nat ex and AbE running a half hourly service. Nat ex even run every 20 mins at certain times. Bit overkill imo but I guess we will see... Nat ex switched to a 15 min frequency. Was a tremendous flop with most coaches going down with about ten people.
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 9, 2020 7:54:40 GMT
The timetable has now been published by Arriva, and it shows it will operate daily to a 24 hour timetable. It will have a 20 min frequency for most of the day, dropping to half hourly at night. That's an incredibly optimistic frequency, and I have severe doubts it can be maintained for anything other than the barest minimum of weeks, even if coronavirus had never reared its ugly head. Just curious to find out what you think is a realistic frequency if it is going to appear to be an attractive service versus National Express?
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Post by busaholic on Mar 9, 2020 13:08:17 GMT
That's an incredibly optimistic frequency, and I have severe doubts it can be maintained for anything other than the barest minimum of weeks, even if coronavirus had never reared its ugly head. Just curious to find out what you think is a realistic frequency if it is going to appear to be an attractive service versus National Express? I wouldn't presume to know, and of course my doubts (not certainties) could prove misplaced.I just hope Arriva are prepared to commit to the long haul, whatever the outcome.
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Post by snowman on Mar 11, 2020 7:23:01 GMT
This service is also in new LSP, with link to timetables content.tfl.gov.uk/lsp-bulletin.pdfLooks like LSP has other changes to Express services (and longer vehicles on Oxford Tube, 15m double deck instead of max 14.2m. but that is off topic)
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 11, 2020 9:01:43 GMT
This service is also in new LSP, with link to timetables content.tfl.gov.uk/lsp-bulletin.pdfLooks like LSP has other changes to Express services (and longer vehicles on Oxford Tube, 15m double deck instead of max 14.2m. but that is off topic) Interesting that National Express seem to be cancelling their Airport LSPs and are to run them as unlicensed express coach services.
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Post by busman on Mar 11, 2020 11:50:02 GMT
This service is also in new LSP, with link to timetables content.tfl.gov.uk/lsp-bulletin.pdfLooks like LSP has other changes to Express services (and longer vehicles on Oxford Tube, 15m double deck instead of max 14.2m. but that is off topic) Interesting that National Express seem to be cancelling their Airport LSPs and are to run them as unlicensed express coach services. What is the significance in that move by Nat Ex? Does it give them any advantage over other operators?
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 11, 2020 12:16:11 GMT
Interesting that National Express seem to be cancelling their Airport LSPs and are to run them as unlicensed express coach services. What is the significance in that move by Nat Ex? Does it give them any advantage over other operators? For one they won't be able to claim BSOG ... and presumably any local fares that were available for travelling in London will be withdrawn.
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Post by busman on Mar 11, 2020 16:24:07 GMT
What is the significance in that move by Nat Ex? Does it give them any advantage over other operators? For one they won't be able to claim BSOG ... and presumably any local fares that were available for travelling in London will be withdrawn. I wonder if the decision is linked to Nat Ex’s decision to go electric with its fleet.
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 11, 2020 17:04:49 GMT
For one they won't be able to claim BSOG ... and presumably any local fares that were available for travelling in London will be withdrawn. I wonder if the decision is linked to Nat Ex’s decision to go electric with its fleet. If you go electric I suppose no need for BSOG ... interesting times.
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Post by driver027 on Mar 12, 2020 3:52:36 GMT
The decision is to simply prevent the fraud that has occurred lately with passengers buying tickets for £1.50 from Victoria coach Stn to Victoria rail stn bit staying on the coach to stansted avoiding paying £14. Nat ex are scrapping local fares and making it back to purely an airport service rather than an airport/local service. Using a coach to go from Victoria to Waterloo is just ludicrous anyway. That’s what local London buses are for.
And nope. Nothing to do with is going electric. Sources close to Birmingham tell me it’s at least another year away before we see even the first electric vehicle. Even then it’ll only be on our shortest route, the A9 which is run as an unlicensed express route anyway.
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Post by N230UD on Mar 17, 2020 22:00:27 GMT
The link on the Arriva website about the new 720 service has been removed. This suggests the start date has probably been postponed, which certainly seems like a sensible option in these surreal times.
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