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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 20, 2020 21:16:00 GMT
Depressing sight.
Interesting how 246 is using two double decks this morning, is that normal? 202s are kinda nice but too bad not Stagecoach. Deckers on the 246 are temporary - in the future deckers will probably be a last resort only I very nearly got 11074 on Saturday but the first time around I missed it by seconds as my connecting 146 out of Downe was late. I could’ve got it on my way back but in doing so I would have missed both the 146 from Keston and R8 from Biggin Hill to get me back to Downe without having to wait an hour, which was a shame really but I hope there will be another opportunity for me to try out a decker on the 246, and at least I managed a photo
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Post by Paul on Sept 20, 2020 22:41:07 GMT
Deckers on the 246 are temporary - in the future deckers will probably be a last resort only I very nearly got 11074 on Saturday but the first time around I missed it by seconds as my connecting 146 out of Downe was late. I could’ve got it on my way back but in doing so I would have missed both the 146 from Keston and R8 from Biggin Hill to get me back to Downe without having to wait an hour, which was a shame really but I hope there will be another opportunity for me to try out a decker on the 246, and at least I managed a photo We seem to have a full compliment of buses from West Ham now (36362-36366 I think!) so decker workings will probably be quite rare now
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Post by vjaska on Sept 21, 2020 0:16:29 GMT
I very nearly got 11074 on Saturday but the first time around I missed it by seconds as my connecting 146 out of Downe was late. I could’ve got it on my way back but in doing so I would have missed both the 146 from Keston and R8 from Biggin Hill to get me back to Downe without having to wait an hour, which was a shame really but I hope there will be another opportunity for me to try out a decker on the 246, and at least I managed a photo We seem to have a full compliment of buses from West Ham now (36362-36366 I think!) so decker workings will probably be quite rare now Wasn't 36362-36363 for school extras?
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Post by adl on Sept 21, 2020 0:33:11 GMT
I very nearly got 11074 on Saturday but the first time around I missed it by seconds as my connecting 146 out of Downe was late. I could’ve got it on my way back but in doing so I would have missed both the 146 from Keston and R8 from Biggin Hill to get me back to Downe without having to wait an hour, which was a shame really but I hope there will be another opportunity for me to try out a decker on the 246, and at least I managed a photo We seem to have a full compliment of buses from West Ham now (36362-36366 I think!) so decker workings will probably be quite rare now Surely these are only temporary themselves given that they are too old for a contract starting this year, I assume once the 256 is converted to double deck operation the route will get the longer 10.8m E200s?
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Post by zebedee104 on Sept 21, 2020 8:03:08 GMT
Was the 55 at all busy to Leyton Green when it was at Leyton, Bakers Arms instead of Walthamstow? I was concerned that the high street link would be lost when the 48 was Withdrawn and the 55 was extended to Walthamstow. Extending the 55 to Walthamstow only removed one stop from your ‘High Street link’ on the old route - that of the Leyton Green terminus itself, either outside Tesco going to Hackney or opposite it as the last stop. So, a few people, me included as I’m a few minutes walk down the High Road from there, would get on and off there if travelling into town, especially as the cretins at Waltham Forest moved the common stop for the 48 (as was)/55/56 Bakers Arms stop halfway down Lea Bridge Road when they put the cycle lane in. As a violent objector to the 48 being withdrawn, I’m going to quietly mutter under my breath, begrudgingly, that removing the 48 and extending the 55 has worked. COVID probably helped though by thinning out demand.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Sept 21, 2020 15:48:20 GMT
<snip> Although the 13reg VHs at BT are allowing cover for these ADEs (plus some 62reg ADHs at RP covering the ADE loans from there), RATP could have instead kept these ADEs, directly or indirectly being used for the school extras - this would avoid relying on Tower Transit to run these extras. Similarly, RATP could have kept the 07reg E200s loaned to TF, to instead cover the 395's extras, rather than involving Uno. The operation of school extras may be influenced by driver availability as well as availability of vehicles. Remember these were arranged with little notice. However this has now meant the 383 extension cannot go ahead for the foreseeable future - I think RATP should try loan in some other bus for the 395 that could be longer rather than prolonging the wait until the 383 Extension and in theory they could always give it longer buses.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 21, 2020 17:38:54 GMT
The operation of school extras may be influenced by driver availability as well as availability of vehicles. Remember these were arranged with little notice. However this has now meant the 383 extension cannot go ahead for the foreseeable future - I think RATP should try loan in some other bus for the 395 that could be longer rather than prolonging the wait until the 383 Extension and in theory they could always give it longer buses. I don’t think that’s the reason the 383’s extension is delayed, would suspect it’s to do with the hospital part of the route. The Streetlite is only needed during certain times weekdays in any event.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Sept 21, 2020 19:18:33 GMT
However this has now meant the 383 extension cannot go ahead for the foreseeable future - I think RATP should try loan in some other bus for the 395 that could be longer rather than prolonging the wait until the 383 Extension and in theory they could always give it longer buses. I don’t think that’s the reason the 383’s extension is delayed, would suspect it’s to do with the hospital part of the route. The Streetlite is only needed during certain times weekdays in any event. What would the PVR of the 383 be when the extension goes ahead? 4?
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Post by kmkcheng on Sept 21, 2020 21:29:02 GMT
I don’t think that’s the reason the 383’s extension is delayed, would suspect it’s to do with the hospital part of the route. The Streetlite is only needed during certain times weekdays in any event. What would the PVR of the 383 be when the extension goes ahead? 4? I believe the PVR may actually remain as 3 as it’s possible to do the extension with 3 buses although it will make the timetable extremely tight. However they did obtain an extra bus in the form of WS46 so it’s also possible it will go up to 4
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Post by adl on Sept 21, 2020 21:34:42 GMT
What would the PVR of the 383 be when the extension goes ahead? 4? I believe the PVR may actually remain as 3 as it’s possible to do the extension with 3 buses although it will make the timetable extremely tight. However they did obtain an extra bus in the form of WS46 so it’s also possible it will go up to 4 It can go up to 4 without WS46, I believe 605, SK07HLM reregistered as C17UNO (Former RATP bus) has been refurbished for this very reason. I can't see WS46 being anything long term. If it does get a PVR increase it'll likely be allocated 601 - 4 (4 Buses), 1 spare = 605.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 21, 2020 23:25:07 GMT
What would the PVR of the 383 be when the extension goes ahead? 4? I believe the PVR may actually remain as 3 as it’s possible to do the extension with 3 buses although it will make the timetable extremely tight. However they did obtain an extra bus in the form of WS46 so it’s also possible it will go up to 4 WS46 is apparently only on loan until the 395 working is finished where it will be returned according to a reliable UNO source. The same source also says that apparently a funding issue has held up the 383's extension to the hospital.
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Post by Ts_As on Sept 22, 2020 4:36:48 GMT
I must say the E400SH MMCs looks so suitable for 246 even doe the route will be using ex-256 E200s but I wonder why the route cannot get converted to double deck using E400s from 174.
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Post by adl on Sept 22, 2020 5:30:44 GMT
I must say the E400SH MMCs looks so suitable for 246 even doe the route will be using ex-256 E200s but I wonder why the route cannot get converted to double deck using E400s from 174. The 256, 365 and 674 are expected to receive E400s the 174. The 256 needs a conversion to DD operation more than the 246.
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Post by Ts_As on Sept 22, 2020 5:37:00 GMT
I must say the E400SH MMCs looks so suitable for 246 even doe the route will be using ex-256 E200s but I wonder why the route cannot get converted to double deck using E400s from 174. The 256, 365 and 674 are expected to receive E400s the 174. The 256 needs a conversion to DD operation more than the 246. Ah I see, thank you for the information.
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Post by Londontransport3 on Sept 22, 2020 15:31:16 GMT
RATP ADE40410 12 13 18 Now at WH to take up the 173 til Electrics arrive
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