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Post by titan1mike on Apr 27, 2020 22:31:21 GMT
It looks as though Arriva are temporarily withdrawing the majority of the 466's T's, only six of them are in service today. Not being withdrawn, obviously more routes are moving to a Sunday service so some buses may not be used for a while. |
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Post by TB123 on Apr 28, 2020 8:42:13 GMT
[b None of the Norwood drivers are route learned on the 157. Just Thornton Heath ones. It's a Thornton Heath route, if any Norwood buses are used, which they are being as supplementary peak extras to the core Sunday service - it will be a Thornton Heath driver as normal The 157 is based at TH with buses based at N. 157 currently on an enhanced sunday service and all buses are coming out of TH. There was until recently some supplementary peak buses on the route. Those were using Norwood based motors as I said above. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 11:18:40 GMT
Is route W6 still going to EC as with 318 going to SF or as there been a change of plan? W6 is not moving anywhere and 318 will move to SF on 6th June. There were also plans to move the W6 to EC aswell. E can hold upto 128 buses and E should have roughly around 120 vehicles (don't know the exact amount), in the garage so that leaves 8 spaces left. The 318 is due to move to SF once the 67 goes to Go-Ahead, so 10 more spaces free and with the 191 moving in that would be 131 buses which will mean that not all the buses will fit. So either outstation the extra 3 buses for the 191 at EC or transfer the W6 fully to EC so that all of the 191s buses can fit into E. |
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Post by busoccultation on Apr 28, 2020 11:43:08 GMT
W6 is not moving anywhere and 318 will move to SF on 6th June. There were also plans to move the W6 to EC aswell. E can hold upto 128 buses and E should have roughly around 120 vehicles (don't know the exact amount), in the garage so that leaves 8 spaces left. The 318 is due to move to SF once the 67 goes to Go-Ahead, so 10 more spaces free and with the 191 moving in that would be 131 buses which will mean that not all the buses will fit. So either outstation the extra 3 buses for the 191 at EC or transfer the W6 fully to EC so that all of the 191s buses can fit into E. titan1mike does work at Arriva, so I'm pretty much sure he is saying the current plans of just moving the 318 to SF with the new date of 6th June.
Also, Enfield has moved out pretty much all of the training buses and most of the withdrawn buses such as DLA's & PDL's that was parked at the side of the garage meaning that 191 can from E without moving anything else out (other than the 318 to SF). Also the capacity that is stated on GOV.UK website is just to do with the O license which the numbers can be changed at any time especially if E now plans to use more of their space for the current in service buses instead of parking old withdrawn buses.
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 28, 2020 17:34:19 GMT
Now the 157 is appearing to be run solely from TH, I am amazed the 417 has not been converted to HV operation and the Ts stood down during this period of restricted operations.
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 28, 2020 17:38:03 GMT
The 157 is based at TH with buses based at N. 157 currently on an enhanced sunday service and all buses are coming out of TH. There was until recently some supplementary peak buses on the route. Those were using Norwood based motors as I said above. The 3 Norwood buses operated all day and were not supplementary. |
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Post by TB123 on Apr 28, 2020 18:09:50 GMT
Now the 157 is appearing to be run solely from TH, I am amazed the 417 has not been converted to HV operation and the Ts stood down during this period of restricted operations. I did hear the reason the 59 plate Ts were continuing to be used was something to do with the fact those vehicles are leased rather than owned like most other buses in the Arriva fleet. Make of that suggestion what you will. |
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 28, 2020 18:13:59 GMT
Now the 157 is appearing to be run solely from TH, I am amazed the 417 has not been converted to HV operation and the Ts stood down during this period of restricted operations. I did hear the reason the 59 plate Ts were continuing to be used was something to do with the fact those vehicles are leased rather than owned like most other buses in the Arriva fleet. Make of that suggestion what you will. They're owned. |
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Post by TB123 on Apr 28, 2020 18:20:27 GMT
I did hear the reason the 59 plate Ts were continuing to be used was something to do with the fact those vehicles are leased rather than owned like most other buses in the Arriva fleet. Make of that suggestion what you will. They're owned. It was previously confirmed on here by someone who I believe works at Arriva that they are leased. I think they would know that stuff. |
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 28, 2020 18:36:11 GMT
It was previously confirmed on here by someone who I believe works at Arriva that they are leased. I think they would know that stuff. You are correct, just checked my records and they are in fact leased (or at least were in 2017), thought it was just DW263-97 leased around that time. Even so, not real reason to keep them operational if they are costing you money by consuming extra fuel. Still be financially beneficial to park them up. |
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Post by TB123 on Apr 28, 2020 18:49:25 GMT
It was previously confirmed on here by someone who I believe works at Arriva that they are leased. I think they would know that stuff. You are correct, just checked my records and they are in fact leased (or at least were in 2017), thought it was just DW263-97 leased around that time. Even so, not real reason to keep them operational if they are costing you money by consuming extra fuel. Still be financially beneficial to park them up. I think the ENLs new to the 325 were also leased. Don't forget the Ts are still pretty fuel efficient vehicles. Not quite at the levels of the HVs but decent none the less. I can't expect "lease holidays" to be so easily negotiated. I expect that would be why they continue to be used. Better to increase fuel consumption slightly but maximise use of vehicles that would otherwise be being paid to sit idle. The difference in fuel bills would be very small anyway. |
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Post by richard on Apr 29, 2020 15:21:53 GMT
Can a blind set from a ENL be placed on a T?
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Post by TB123 on Apr 29, 2020 16:37:12 GMT
Confirmed elsewhere on social media by a reliable Arriva source that the 325 will temporarily convert to double decker for the foreseeable future to allow social distancing on board. Special slipboards to be used in lieu of blinds
A wise move and hopefully it'll clear the way for double decks to be used permanently on the route in future.
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Post by Londontransport3 on Apr 29, 2020 17:19:48 GMT
Can a blind set from a ENL be placed on a T? Yes But then thats remembering what Bus Doesnt have blinds, ENLS only have 173 325 On So if Fitted to T's They wouldn't be able put those Ts on the 150 368, Where as its only Temp, Slipboards will do |
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Post by Londontransport3 on Apr 29, 2020 17:20:12 GMT
Confirmed elsewhere on social media by a reliable Arriva source that the 325 will temporarily convert to double decker for the foreseeable future to allow social distancing on board. Special slipboards to be used in lieu of blinds A wise move and hopefully it'll clear the way for double decks to be used permanently on the route in future. Wonder Who?  |
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