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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 24, 2021 15:44:06 GMT
Regardless of what happens with Beddington outstation, any reshuffle relating to the 432 could probably make use of the space at other garages, particularly TC which has quite a lot of spare capacity including from the 197 loss. Or the 137 could fully move back to BN - it should fit if the N137 were to move as well. The 157 to TH and the 289 to TC perhaps which would give TC a bigger pool of single deckers, assuming the 312 extension to Old Lodge Lane is still happening which means no more double deckers. I was thinking maybe the 450 to TH and 312 to N for the same reason, while also removing the need for ENS/SLS loans between garages.
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Post by greenboy on Jun 24, 2021 16:37:14 GMT
The 157 to TH and the 289 to TC perhaps which would give TC a bigger pool of single deckers, assuming the 312 extension to Old Lodge Lane is still happening which means no more double deckers. I was thinking maybe the 450 to TH and 312 to N for the same reason, while also removing the need for ENS/SLS loans between garages. I don't think the 312 will go to N, it's quite a distance from Norwood Junction.
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 24, 2021 17:39:01 GMT
I was thinking maybe the 450 to TH and 312 to N for the same reason, while also removing the need for ENS/SLS loans between garages. I don't think the 312 will go to N, it's quite a distance from Norwood Junction. Not really as it could go via the 196 as far as beulah Hill and then via the 249 to crystal palace and then via the 432 through to Elder Road. Or it could go via the 196 to West Norwood and then come back on itself on the one way system. Again this is a possibility
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Post by Ts_As on Jun 24, 2021 17:50:58 GMT
I don't think the 312 will go to N, it's quite a distance from Norwood Junction. Not really as it could go via the 196 as far as beulah Hill and then via the 249 to crystal palace and then via the 432 through to Elder Road. Or it could go via the 196 to West Norwood and then come back on itself on the one way system. Again this is a possibility If that’s the case will the MetroCities manage hills
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Post by greenboy on Jun 24, 2021 18:05:56 GMT
Not really as it could go via the 196 as far as beulah Hill and then via the 249 to crystal palace and then via the 432 through to Elder Road. Or it could go via the 196 to West Norwood and then come back on itself on the one way system. Again this is a possibility If that’s the case will the MetroCities manage hills And why would a Metrocity be going up South Norwood Hill when the charging points are at South Croydon Garage?
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Post by Max B on Jun 24, 2021 18:19:21 GMT
The 157 to TH and the 289 to TC perhaps which would give TC a bigger pool of single deckers, assuming the 312 extension to Old Lodge Lane is still happening which means no more double deckers. I was thinking maybe the 450 to TH and 312 to N for the same reason, while also removing the need for ENS/SLS loans between garages. You’re kidding right? That would be a pointless move seeing as it terminates at South Croydon Bus Garage (it’s home) and has charging points there, and N doesn’t.
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Post by Max B on Jun 24, 2021 18:25:59 GMT
Regardless of what happens with Beddington outstation, any reshuffle relating to the 432 could probably make use of the space at other garages, particularly TC which has quite a lot of spare capacity including from the 197 loss. Or the 137 could fully move back to BN - it should fit if the N137 were to move as well. The reason why the 137 got partially moved to N was to make room for the 133 and 333 in 2017, and nothing since then has moved in, so my guess is BN is full untill a route is lost or moves out.
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 24, 2021 18:48:29 GMT
Regardless of what happens with Beddington outstation, any reshuffle relating to the 432 could probably make use of the space at other garages, particularly TC which has quite a lot of spare capacity including from the 197 loss. Or the 137 could fully move back to BN - it should fit if the N137 were to move as well. The reason why the 137 got partially moved to N was to make room for the 133 and 333 in 2017, and nothing since then has moved in, so my guess is BN is full untill a route is lost or moves out. BN will have a small amount of space, including from a few minor PVR cuts, however the N137 has quite a large PVR so would allow the full 137 to fit if it also moved to BN. Also, BN once had a much larger total PVR before the 109 and 159 losses, so may not be at full capacity now, especially of the Brixton Hill outstation is included.
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 24, 2021 18:49:01 GMT
I was thinking maybe the 450 to TH and 312 to N for the same reason, while also removing the need for ENS/SLS loans between garages. You’re kidding right? That would be a pointless move seeing as it terminates at South Croydon Bus Garage (it’s home) and has charging points there, and N doesn’t. Made a mistake, had meant 450 to TH and the 289 to TC
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Post by titan1mike on Jun 24, 2021 19:25:35 GMT
The reason why the 137 got partially moved to N was to make room for the 133 and 333 in 2017, and nothing since then has moved in, so my guess is BN is full untill a route is lost or moves out. BN will have a small amount of space, including from a few minor PVR cuts, however the N137 has quite a large PVR so would allow the full 137 to fit if it also moved to BN. Also, BN once had a much larger total PVR before the 109 and 159 losses, so may not be at full capacity now, especially of the Brixton Hill outstation is included. N137 PVR is 6 every night.
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Post by richard on Jun 24, 2021 22:05:43 GMT
I was thinking maybe the 450 to TH and 312 to N for the same reason, while also removing the need for ENS/SLS loans between garages. I don't think the 312 will go to N, it's quite a distance from Norwood Junction. The 410 could go to N if there is space available.
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Post by dlroper on Jun 24, 2021 23:25:43 GMT
According to vjaska 's fleetlist, they were bought for the 340 but are now allocated to the 329. They are not officially allocated to the 329, they are just used on that route due to the poor reliability of them. Enjoy ................ SW2 going N on the 329 - 09-05 last Attachment Deletedthe only SW in a 2 hour stint near Wood Green back on Sun 09-05 ............. too much Sun and traffic about too that morning ........... frustrating especially as SW4 then passed me going the other way about 400 yards down the road at the A406 junction as I was driving away to work via photing the 150's at Gants Hill ............. 329 seems to get 4-6 per weekday.
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 25, 2021 5:15:55 GMT
They are not officially allocated to the 329, they are just used on that route due to the poor reliability of them. Enjoy ................ SW2 going N on the 329 - 09-05 last View Attachmentthe only SW in a 2 hour stint near Wood Green back on Sun 09-05 ............. too much Sun and traffic about too that morning ........... frustrating especially as SW4 then passed me going the other way about 400 yards down the road at the A406 junction as I was driving away to work via photing the 150's at Gants Hill ............. 329 seems to get 4-6 per weekday. I want to see one on the 34
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 25, 2021 9:16:22 GMT
Enjoy ................ SW2 going N on the 329 - 09-05 last View Attachmentthe only SW in a 2 hour stint near Wood Green back on Sun 09-05 ............. too much Sun and traffic about too that morning ........... frustrating especially as SW4 then passed me going the other way about 400 yards down the road at the A406 junction as I was driving away to work via photing the 150's at Gants Hill ............. 329 seems to get 4-6 per weekday. I want to see one on the 34 Hahaha my boy don't do it to yourself. Those buses wouldn't be able to take on the hills on the NCR. Especially where IKEA and Tesco is.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 25, 2021 13:01:45 GMT
They are not officially allocated to the 329, they are just used on that route due to the poor reliability of them. Enjoy ................ SW2 going N on the 329 - 09-05 last View Attachmentthe only SW in a 2 hour stint near Wood Green back on Sun 09-05 ............. too much Sun and traffic about too that morning ........... frustrating especially as SW4 then passed me going the other way about 400 yards down the road at the A406 junction as I was driving away to work via photing the 150's at Gants Hill ............. 329 seems to get 4-6 per weekday. Shows the paintwork is still very good as I mentioned. shows dramaqueen, I mean ServerKing is over exaggerating the paintwork
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