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Post by DE20106 on Jul 22, 2024 7:27:12 GMT
Yaaaaay Mobitec blinds!!😀
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 22, 2024 8:21:09 GMT
Iv just seen a pic of HV281. More thorough refurb then usual I'd say. I believe these are the first refurbs to have the priority seating maquette, new screens and (apart from the SL routes) USB points added. Being done at Bus & Coach World from their Facebook page. Says first of 2 with 67 more to do ... the exact number (69) of G3s at N ... if my calculations in my head are correct. 67 are to be done. HV27 + 2 Gemini 3s are refurb floats due to the PVR reductions on Route 2 & 249. HV283 is also done. Unfortunately only HV282 is tracking, yesterday it wasn’t tracking.
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Post by cl54 on Jul 22, 2024 9:59:13 GMT
Although I found this very unlikely to happen, it seems that HV282 has a new LED iBus at the lower and upper deck, and the seats have been refurbished to have priority seating. It almost looks like a future spec to me! A shame they couldn't add the wooden flooring. New Refurbishment looks Great with LED ibus. Well done Arriva London 💯😉 Internal screens are LCD rather than LED.
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Post by M1104 on Jul 22, 2024 11:39:57 GMT
Being done at Bus & Coach World from their Facebook page. Says first of 2 with 67 more to do ... the exact number (69) of G3s at N ... if my calculations in my head are correct. 67 are to be done. HV27 + 2 Gemini 3s are refurb floats due to the PVR reductions on Route 2 & 249. HV283 is also done. Unfortunately only HV282 is tracking, yesterday it wasn’t tracking. This seems to suggest LED exterior display is now a contract requirement by TfL with at least some existing bus contracts, following TUK's example with some of their MMC batch mods. I'm a bit suprised (though not the least disappointed) USB sockets are included in the refurb given TfL's plans to oust hybrids by the early 2030. This is baring in mind Arriva as a whole may likely continue to use those HVs elsewhere post London.
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Post by dace2 on Jul 22, 2024 12:09:01 GMT
Iv just seen a pic of HV281. More thorough refurb then usual I'd say. I believe these are the first refurbs to have the priority seating maquette, new screens and (apart from the SL routes) USB points added. Being done at Bus & Coach World from their Facebook page. Says first of 2 with 67 more to do ... the exact number (69) of G3s at N ... if my calculations in my head are correct. HV280 got refurbished earlier but it wasn't at Bus and Coach World.
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 22, 2024 12:35:12 GMT
67 are to be done. HV27 + 2 Gemini 3s are refurb floats due to the PVR reductions on Route 2 & 249. HV283 is also done. Unfortunately only HV282 is tracking, yesterday it wasn’t tracking. This seems to suggest LED exterior display is now a contract requirement by TfL with at least some existing bus contracts, following TUK's example with some of their MMC batch mods. I'm a bit suprised (though not the least disappointed) USB sockets are included in the refurb given TfL's plans to oust hybrids by the early 2030. This is baring in mind Arriva as a whole may likely continue to use those HVs elsewhere post London. Overall 2030 is still a long time I actually glad the LEDs are being introduced this will allow more vehicles to be used on Routes 202 & 432 as a bonus. When HV398-412 are done the blinds could be transferred into the HTs allowing use on the 432 I would not be surprised if the 66 103 329 370 410 627 W4 vehicles to receive similar refurbishments. 121 150 175 192 I expect will receive general refurbishments just a guess. I don’t see the point of such extensive refurbishments for 3 year contract. SLS1-4 are away at the moment and I believe they are being refurbished so watch out for when they return.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 22, 2024 13:06:09 GMT
This seems to suggest LED exterior display is now a contract requirement by TfL with at least some existing bus contracts, following TUK's example with some of their MMC batch mods. I'm a bit suprised (though not the least disappointed) USB sockets are included in the refurb given TfL's plans to oust hybrids by the early 2030. This is baring in mind Arriva as a whole may likely continue to use those HVs elsewhere post London. Overall 2030 is still a long time I actually glad the LEDs are being introduced this will allow more vehicles to be used on Routes 202 & 432 as a bonus. When HV398-412 are done the blinds could be transferred into the HTs allowing use on the 432 I would not be surprised if the 66 103 329 370 410 627 W4 vehicles to receive similar refurbishments. 121 150 175 192 I expect will receive general refurbishments just a guess. I don’t see the point of such extensive refurbishments for 3 year contract. SLS1-4 are away at the moment and I believe they are being refurbished so watch out for when they return. Even for a 3 year contract, I still think they should receive a similar refurbishment otherwise, you end up with hodge podge of some done and some not. These buses would probably be able to sell for slightly more on the second hand market with the extras included once the three year contract finishes.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Jul 22, 2024 13:09:22 GMT
Overall 2030 is still a long time I actually glad the LEDs are being introduced this will allow more vehicles to be used on Routes 202 & 432 as a bonus. When HV398-412 are done the blinds could be transferred into the HTs allowing use on the 432 I would not be surprised if the 66 103 329 370 410 627 W4 vehicles to receive similar refurbishments. 121 150 175 192 I expect will receive general refurbishments just a guess. I don’t see the point of such extensive refurbishments for 3 year contract. SLS1-4 are away at the moment and I believe they are being refurbished so watch out for when they return. Even for a 3 year contract, I still think they should receive a similar refurbishment otherwise, you end up with hodge podge of some done and some not. These buses would probably be able to sell for slightly more on the second hand market with the extras included once the three year contract finishes. I can't imagine the 14regs will be refurbished at all for the 150/175, most have been refurbished relatively recently.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 22, 2024 13:10:19 GMT
Overall 2030 is still a long time I actually glad the LEDs are being introduced this will allow more vehicles to be used on Routes 202 & 432 as a bonus. When HV398-412 are done the blinds could be transferred into the HTs allowing use on the 432 I would not be surprised if the 66 103 329 370 410 627 W4 vehicles to receive similar refurbishments. 121 150 175 192 I expect will receive general refurbishments just a guess. I don’t see the point of such extensive refurbishments for 3 year contract. SLS1-4 are away at the moment and I believe they are being refurbished so watch out for when they return. Even for a 3 year contract, I still think they should receive a similar refurbishment otherwise, you end up with hodge podge of some done and some not. These buses would probably be able to sell for slightly more on the second hand market with the extras included once the three year contract finishes. You are going to have a hodge podge for next few years no matter what. Probably doesn't make financial sense for a 3 year contracts, but if that is what TFL specified and are paying for that is what they will get. If they are not, then I doubt it will happen.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 22, 2024 13:12:59 GMT
Even for a 3 year contract, I still think they should receive a similar refurbishment otherwise, you end up with hodge podge of some done and some not. These buses would probably be able to sell for slightly more on the second hand market with the extras included once the three year contract finishes. You are going to have a hodge podge for next few years no matter what. Probably doesn't make financial sense for a 3 year contracts, but if that is what TFL specified and are paying for that is what they will get. If they are not, then I doubt it will happen. If all contracts from now specify this upgraded refurb, then you will have less of a hodge podge - not perfect but far more unified than simply ignoring all the 3 year contracts.
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Post by M1104 on Jul 22, 2024 13:52:12 GMT
Even for a 3 year contract, I still think they should receive a similar refurbishment otherwise, you end up with hodge podge of some done and some not. These buses would probably be able to sell for slightly more on the second hand market with the extras included once the three year contract finishes. You are going to have a hodge podge for next few years no matter what. Especially if refurbishment/upgrades are so slow in progression it comes to point that some buses never get treated
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Post by sp17 on Jul 22, 2024 14:02:13 GMT
This seems to suggest LED exterior display is now a contract requirement by TfL with at least some existing bus contracts, following TUK's example with some of their MMC batch mods. I'm a bit suprised (though not the least disappointed) USB sockets are included in the refurb given TfL's plans to oust hybrids by the early 2030. This is baring in mind Arriva as a whole may likely continue to use those HVs elsewhere post London. Overall 2030 is still a long time I actually glad the LEDs are being introduced this will allow more vehicles to be used on Routes 202 & 432 as a bonus. When HV398-412 are done the blinds could be transferred into the HTs allowing use on the 432 I would not be surprised if the 66 103 329 370 410 627 W4 vehicles to receive similar refurbishments. 121 150 175 192 I expect will receive general refurbishments just a guess. I don’t see the point of such extensive refurbishments for 3 year contract. SLS1-4 are away at the moment and I believe they are being refurbished so watch out for when they return. What are the SLS being refurbished for?
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Jul 22, 2024 14:08:18 GMT
Overall 2030 is still a long time I actually glad the LEDs are being introduced this will allow more vehicles to be used on Routes 202 & 432 as a bonus. When HV398-412 are done the blinds could be transferred into the HTs allowing use on the 432 I would not be surprised if the 66 103 329 370 410 627 W4 vehicles to receive similar refurbishments. 121 150 175 192 I expect will receive general refurbishments just a guess. I don’t see the point of such extensive refurbishments for 3 year contract. SLS1-4 are away at the moment and I believe they are being refurbished so watch out for when they return. What are the SLS being refurbished for? 410
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 22, 2024 14:14:07 GMT
You are going to have a hodge podge for next few years no matter what. Probably doesn't make financial sense for a 3 year contracts, but if that is what TFL specified and are paying for that is what they will get. If they are not, then I doubt it will happen. If all contracts from now specify this upgraded refurb, then you will have less of a hodge podge - not perfect but far more unified than simply ignoring all the 3 year contracts. You have a point however it becomes pointless if there is a backlog of buses to be refurbished. I do agree everything should be uniform. Mobitec blinds should be mandatory and all the onboard information screens should display live information.
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 22, 2024 14:17:27 GMT
You are going to have a hodge podge for next few years no matter what. Probably doesn't make financial sense for a 3 year contracts, but if that is what TFL specified and are paying for that is what they will get. If they are not, then I doubt it will happen. If all contracts from now specify this upgraded refurb, then you will have less of a hodge podge - not perfect but far more unified than simply ignoring all the 3 year contracts. Very true but before you know it they are up the only way this would work is if they are refurbished at least 6 months within the contract I would say…
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