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Post by mkay315 on Aug 2, 2024 21:18:36 GMT
I mean for the ENLs during it's DX days it was a bit slanted but now they're sluggish. Anyways I'm just glad for ONCE some respect is put on the 255's name 26 years of existence and no new vehicles has been put on that route. That is some record. Hopefully the new buses comes in good timing Where did the original Darts come from. I would have thought they would have been new to the route. They came off the 319 I think twice. The Plaxton Darts (S-Reg) were definitely from the 319 and I think the Wright cadet buses too. The enviro 200s came off the 325 originally but it was a busical chairs in 2015 when the 173 became a double decker. As the 325 took on the ex-173 vehicles.
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Post by vlw92 on Aug 2, 2024 21:57:29 GMT
Route 217 at 10 hours notice awarded to Arriva AR with no buses, no blinds, no etms duty cards nothing!! As Sullivan have surrendered tfl contracts!
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Post by adl on Aug 2, 2024 22:00:18 GMT
Route 217 at 10 hours notice awarded to Arriva AR with no buses, no blinds, no etms duty cards nothing!! As Sullivan have surrendered tfl contracts! I'd imagine spare E400s will be making a return or potentially moving some DWs in, DX drivers are type trained on E400s so would make sense to shove the E400s on the 175 and move over it's 59 reg DWs to AR for the 217.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 2, 2024 22:02:42 GMT
Where did the original Darts come from. I would have thought they would have been new to the route. They came off the 319 I think twice. The Plaxton Darts (S-Reg) were definitely from the 319 and I think the Wright cadet buses too. The enviro 200s came off the 325 originally but it was a busical chairs in 2015 when the 173 became a double decker. As the 325 took on the ex-173 vehicles. The S reg DDL’s came from the 319 but the DWL’s came from TC, though were new to the 319
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Post by lj61nwc on Aug 2, 2024 22:02:56 GMT
Route 217 at 10 hours notice awarded to Arriva AR with no buses, no blinds, no etms duty cards nothing!! As Sullivan have surrendered tfl contracts! I'd imagine spare E400s will be making a return or potentially moving some DWs in, DX drivers are type trained on E400s so would make sense to shove the E400s on the 175 and move over it's 59 reg DWs to AR for the 217. T147 is the only E400 in storage at Beddington, there may be a few at N with the HAs though.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Aug 2, 2024 22:04:31 GMT
Route 217 at 10 hours notice awarded to Arriva AR with no buses, no blinds, no etms duty cards nothing!! As Sullivan have surrendered tfl contracts! This is just my assumption, but I have a feeling the 50 may partly convert to ES— there are 13 surplus ESs at BN, which would release the perfect number of HVs for the 217
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Post by adl on Aug 2, 2024 22:04:39 GMT
I'd imagine spare E400s will be making a return or potentially moving some DWs in, DX drivers are type trained on E400s so would make sense to shove the E400s on the 175 and move over it's 59 reg DWs to AR for the 217. T147 is the only E400 in storage at Beddington, there may be a few at N with the HAs though. Another option could be the spare HAs, DX again already has then for the SL2 so could move the 5/6 spare HAs to DX and move out the DWs tour which are familiar with DWs although the only thing is I don't think the 175/150 drivers are familiar with HAs considering the HAs are route bound to the SL2 due to branding.
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Post by lj61nwc on Aug 2, 2024 22:06:04 GMT
Route 217 at 10 hours notice awarded to Arriva AR with no buses, no blinds, no etms duty cards nothing!! As Sullivan have surrendered tfl contracts! This is just my assumption, but I have a feeling the 50 may partly convert to ES— there are 13 surplus ESs at BN, which would release the perfect number of HVs for the 217 Where would the chargers come from?
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Post by adl on Aug 2, 2024 22:06:57 GMT
This is just my assumption, but I have a feeling the 50 may partly convert to ES— there are 13 surplus ESs at BN, which would release the perfect number of HVs for the 217 Where would the chargers come from? DT11 just confirmed route W3s E400s will be used to operate route 217.
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 2, 2024 22:07:28 GMT
They came off the 319 I think twice. The Plaxton Darts (S-Reg) were definitely from the 319 and I think the Wright cadet buses too. The enviro 200s came off the 325 originally but it was a busical chairs in 2015 when the 173 became a double decker. As the 325 took on the ex-173 vehicles. The S reg DDL’s came from the 319 but the DWL’s came from TC, though were new to the 319 Didn't the DDLs also go via TC?
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Aug 2, 2024 22:08:13 GMT
This is just my assumption, but I have a feeling the 50 may partly convert to ES— there are 13 surplus ESs at BN, which would release the perfect number of HVs for the 217 Where would the chargers come from? Yeah that’s true— I forgot they only have enough chargers in the tram shed for 319/417
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Post by vjaska on Aug 2, 2024 22:10:44 GMT
The S reg DDL’s came from the 319 but the DWL’s came from TC, though were new to the 319 Didn't the DDLs also go via TC? Yes your right thinking about it - 412 IIRC as the 255 started off with DRL’s?
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Post by WH241 on Aug 2, 2024 22:18:49 GMT
Route 217 at 10 hours notice awarded to Arriva AR with no buses, no blinds, no etms duty cards nothing!! As Sullivan have surrendered tfl contracts! I will be really disappointed in the enthusiast community if they start slagging off Arriva from tomorrow about the 217. We have had months of RATP, Arriva and Sullivan bashing so do wonder who the next will be 😉
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Post by ServerKing on Aug 2, 2024 22:22:28 GMT
Route 217 at 10 hours notice awarded to Arriva AR with no buses, no blinds, no etms duty cards nothing!! As Sullivan have surrendered tfl contracts! The Ts from the W3 are free but they could use 5 series DWs off the 158 seeing as EC is to become an outstation of AR soon. Keeps a common fleet at AR.
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Post by vlw92 on Aug 2, 2024 22:24:15 GMT
Hold your horses people... Too many keyboards warriors here.
Arriva are going to get 9 of the Enviros from Sullivans on Loan to AR Tonight and Arriva will source the rest
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