dace2
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Post by dace2 on Aug 5, 2024 21:51:03 GMT
Are the drivers at AR type trained to drive HAs Ts and HV G2s?
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Post by WH241 on Aug 5, 2024 21:53:32 GMT
Sorry I never realised there was a thread for this.
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Post by ServerKing on Aug 5, 2024 21:56:58 GMT
Being from the Havering area I’m not entirely clued up with North London, would SF be a viable option for the 317 should Arriva want to retain the 217 from Enfield, this way they could win back the 327 on next tender too. In terms of geography, it would be like Leyton running the 294... Stamford Hill is miles away from the 317. There still has to be a lot of Busical Chairs with the 259 moving from Edmonton to Tottenham, and I am not sure what space Enfield has left as they are looking to increase charging space for the incoming 279 electrics. They could increase the BZL order for the 41 to include some for the 217 if retained. Interesting point on the Sullivan thread showing how the ETMs can be put in an Emergency mode so buses can be tracked and fares collected. This emergency cover, whilst not collecting revenue must hurt TfL's pockets, and we don't know how generous this new governmemt will be regarding subsidy / bailouts, seeing the huge hole in the budget revealed last week dace2Drivers used to drive the HVs (1-25 originally) before they moved South in 2018, as the G3's replaced them. Not sure if it was an AD driver helping out with the HA, as I even saw 5 series DWs such as 564 from Enfield on the route at one point during Saturday. If there are any redundant or less used DWs, such as DW560 which last ran on 13 July or DW569 which ran on the 1st of this month, these could head to Tottenham and the 217, or any DWs from Edmonton outstation, and G2 HVs go on the 158. DWs would have better accelleration for the faster sections on the 217 than the ponderous box on the 1st gen B5LH. The Great Cambridge Rd can be your best friend or your enemy, traffic heading south gets in a jam near Cambridge Roundabout by the North Circular, plus lots of idiots go in the bus lane from Empire Avenue northwards, plus incoming traffic from Oakthorpe Park can make things bad. The sections near Enfield Retail Park have their moments, plus heading to the junction with Hertford Road A1010 (Freezywater / Waltham X) can be slow when school's out. Hopefully the drivers will be better organized at Turnpike Lane for changeovers tomorrow
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Post by adl on Aug 6, 2024 0:21:04 GMT
Being from the Havering area I’m not entirely clued up with North London, would SF be a viable option for the 317 should Arriva want to retain the 217 from Enfield, this way they could win back the 327 on next tender too. If they wanted to retain the 217 from Enfield, they’d most likely move the 349 to SF or have the buses parked at EC. Also, I assume you mean 307 and not 317, as 317 is at Metroline PB? No I had meant the 317 awarded to Arriva, apologies I should I’ve been clearer
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Post by adl on Aug 6, 2024 0:22:15 GMT
Being from the Havering area I’m not entirely clued up with North London, would SF be a viable option for the 317 should Arriva want to retain the 217 from Enfield, this way they could win back the 327 on next tender too. In terms of geography, it would be like Leyton running the 294... Stamford Hill is miles away from the 317. There still has to be a lot of Busical Chairs with the 259 moving from Edmonton to Tottenham, and I am not sure what space Enfield has left as they are looking to increase charging space for the incoming 279 electrics. They could increase the BZL order for the 41 to include some for the 217 if retained. Interesting point on the Sullivan thread showing how the ETMs can be put in an Emergency mode so buses can be tracked and fares collected. This emergency cover, whilst not collecting revenue must hurt TfL's pockets, and we don't know how generous this new governmemt will be regarding subsidy / bailouts, seeing the huge hole in the budget revealed last week dace2 Drivers used to drive the HVs (1-25 originally) before they moved South in 2018, as the G3's replaced them. Not sure if it was an AD driver helping out with the HA, as I even saw 5 series DWs such as 564 from Enfield on the route at one point during Saturday. If there are any redundant or less used DWs, such as DW560 which last ran on 13 July or DW569 which ran on the 1st of this month, these could head to Tottenham and the 217, or any DWs from Edmonton outstation, and G2 HVs go on the 158. DWs would have better accelleration for the faster sections on the 217 than the ponderous box on the 1st gen B5LH. The Great Cambridge Rd can be your best friend or your enemy, traffic heading south gets in a jam near Cambridge Roundabout by the North Circular, plus lots of idiots go in the bus lane from Empire Avenue northwards, plus incoming traffic from Oakthorpe Park can make things bad. The sections near Enfield Retail Park have their moments, plus heading to the junction with Hertford Road A1010 (Freezywater / Waltham X) can be slow when school's out. Hopefully the drivers will be better organized at Turnpike Lane for changeovers tomorrow My bad I had meant in my message for the 349 to move into SF with the 217 into E and the space cleared from the 349 could also lead to an award of the 317 also into E.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 6, 2024 1:31:39 GMT
Are the drivers at AR type trained to drive HAs Ts and HV G2s? On that list the majority would be able to do G2 HV. T's only drivers who were there before the 341 got converted to HV As for HA's only drivers who transferred from [N] or [AE]
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Post by sp17 on Aug 6, 2024 11:58:39 GMT
Are the drivers at AR type trained to drive HAs Ts and HV G2s? Doesn’t take long to type train a driver, probably the best part of 5 minutes so that’s not really an issue. It’s more of a formality. In fact when I was at AR I wasn’t even type trained on LTs or VLWs.
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Post by barrypotter on Aug 6, 2024 13:40:46 GMT
Are the drivers at AR type trained to drive HAs Ts and HV G2s? Doesn’t take long to type train a driver, probably the best part of 5 minutes so that’s not really an issue. It’s more of a formality. In fact when I was at AR I wasn’t even type trained on LTs or VLWs. When I started at AR, I was type trained on an Olympian, and never drove one ever again.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 6, 2024 16:50:42 GMT
DW562 didn’t get very far on its journey from Waltham Cross to Manor House - it managed to get from the stand to the first stop at the bus station and that was it.
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Post by adl on Aug 6, 2024 17:14:48 GMT
I’m assuming Arriva intend to operate the 217 using Gemini 2 HVs, so far I have spotted
HV14 HV20 HV30 HV35 HV36 HV37
Are there any other Gemini 2 HVs anyone has spotted? Looks like there are more of the 50s allocation out of service so could be a few more on route. I think the Gemini 3s we are seeing are simply spares from the 243/341 rather then actually part of the allocation.
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Post by ADH45258 on Aug 6, 2024 19:03:19 GMT
I’m assuming Arriva intend to operate the 217 using Gemini 2 HVs, so far I have spotted HV14 HV20 HV30 HV35 HV36 HV37 Are there any other Gemini 2 HVs anyone has spotted? Looks like there are more of the 50s allocation out of service so could be a few more on route. I think the Gemini 3s we are seeing are simply spares from the 243/341 rather then actually part of the allocation. Not completely clear if the HVs are temporary on the 217 or not. Bustimes.org says that several of the withdrawn ex-W3 Ts have been brought back into the fleet for the 217.
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Post by WH241 on Aug 6, 2024 19:11:37 GMT
I’m assuming Arriva intend to operate the 217 using Gemini 2 HVs, so far I have spotted HV14 HV20 HV30 HV35 HV36 HV37 Are there any other Gemini 2 HVs anyone has spotted? Looks like there are more of the 50s allocation out of service so could be a few more on route. I think the Gemini 3s we are seeing are simply spares from the 243/341 rather then actually part of the allocation. Not completely clear if the HVs are temporary on the 217 or not. Bustimes.org says that several of the withdrawn ex-W3 Ts have been brought back into the fleet for the 217. I didn't think any buses on former Sullivan routes were tracking? I can't see anything on Bustimes.org
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 6, 2024 19:13:14 GMT
I’m assuming Arriva intend to operate the 217 using Gemini 2 HVs, so far I have spotted HV14 HV20 HV30 HV35 HV36 HV37 Are there any other Gemini 2 HVs anyone has spotted? Looks like there are more of the 50s allocation out of service so could be a few more on route. I think the Gemini 3s we are seeing are simply spares from the 243/341 rather then actually part of the allocation. Not completely clear if the HVs are temporary on the 217 or not. Bustimes.org says that several of the withdrawn ex-W3 Ts have been brought back into the fleet for the 217. Not putting too much faith in those bustimes edits here. Same guy has previously marked HAs as withdrawn. Premature comes to mind.
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Post by busoccultation on Aug 6, 2024 19:19:29 GMT
Not completely clear if the HVs are temporary on the 217 or not. Bustimes.org says that several of the withdrawn ex-W3 Ts have been brought back into the fleet for the 217. I didn't think any buses on former Sullivan routes were tracking? I can't see anything on Bustimes.org Nope they aren't tracking on bustimes either until the ticket machines have been sorted for those routes as the feed for TfL routes comes from the ticket machine itself rather than the ibus that LVF uses.
The ex W3 T's being brought back was just a plan that was brought by Arriva on Friday evening and as we've seen that has clearly been changed.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 6, 2024 20:51:55 GMT
I’m assuming Arriva intend to operate the 217 using Gemini 2 HVs, so far I have spotted HV14 HV20 HV30 HV35 HV36 HV37 Are there any other Gemini 2 HVs anyone has spotted? Looks like there are more of the 50s allocation out of service so could be a few more on route. I think the Gemini 3s we are seeing are simply spares from the 243/341 rather then actually part of the allocation. Not completely clear if the HVs are temporary on the 217 or not. Bustimes.org says that several of the withdrawn ex-W3 Ts have been brought back into the fleet for the 217. I was out along the 217 route earlier today and there was definitely no ex W3 T's running on it nor any T's at all so Bustimes is clearly wrong. It was mainly HV's transferred in from BN and I also spotted a 14 reg ex Stagecoach example (think HV167) & a native AR HV from the 300 series. I imagine these BN HV's will become the allocation as long as Arriva continue to run it under it's current conditions.
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