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Post by yunus on Nov 27, 2024 15:28:43 GMT
Just a thought where will the DWs on the 158 go to once the new contract for it starts in over a year?
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 27, 2024 16:19:36 GMT
Just a thought where will the DWs on the 158 go to once the new contract for it starts in over a year? Withdrawn most likely. |
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 27, 2024 17:16:07 GMT
Just a thought where will the DWs on the 158 go to once the new contract for it starts in over a year? Last Hurrah for the 217 after Go Ahead is done for the year  |
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 27, 2024 17:18:50 GMT
Just a thought where will the DWs on the 158 go to once the new contract for it starts in over a year? Last Hurrah for the 217 after Go Ahead is done for the year So is the 217 going to change operator after each year, so they all have a chance to operate their heritage buses on it?  |
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Post by mondraker275 on Nov 27, 2024 17:34:41 GMT
Anyone got any idea what will cover the 196/SL6 when it comes into service? T’s? HA’s? One big hunch for the SL6 could be the SL1 HAs, they do have the livery of the superloop and wouldn't take long to refurbish. 196 could use the ex 405 HTs or HVs The whole SL6 situation is odd but it would be madness to brand temporary buses to cover a delay. Having said that it will come down to what TfL has stipulated and if Arriva need to have a branded bus on Day 1. Then what will the anticipate delay look like if there is one, and what is the cheapest way to cover that would be if say fines are involved. In a common sense world the Go-Ahead buses will be used in some arrangement or unbranded buses will be allowed. |
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Post by DE20106 on Nov 27, 2024 18:44:33 GMT
Can I ask why was the 428 converted to decker operation, was it due to operational convenience by Arriva or because TfL thought it needed them? Can’t imagine at just 1.2 million journeys last year it was crying out in desperation for an extra deck, even the controversially decked D8 manages more than that! I’ve certainly never seen the route carry a load that justifies a decker, but im sure our resident ex-DT driver knows better! |
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 27, 2024 18:47:53 GMT
Can I ask why was the 428 converted to decker operation, was it due to operational convenience by Arriva or because TfL thought it needed them? Can’t imagine at just 1.2 million journeys last year it was crying out in desperation for an extra deck, even the controversially decked D8 manages more than that! The 428 only needs them during the School rush because of Haberdashers Aske’s Crayford Academy. Using DDs also removed the 2 AM & PM School journeys. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 27, 2024 19:47:34 GMT
Can I ask why was the 428 converted to decker operation, was it due to operational convenience by Arriva or because TfL thought it needed them? Can’t imagine at just 1.2 million journeys last year it was crying out in desperation for an extra deck, even the controversially decked D8 manages more than that! The 428 only needs them during the School rush because of Haberdashers Aske’s Crayford Academy. Using DDs also removed the 2 AM & PM School journeys. Similar to the 412 and 492. |
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Post by DE20106 on Nov 27, 2024 20:37:10 GMT
The 428 only needs them during the School rush because of Haberdashers Aske’s Crayford Academy. Using DDs also removed the 2 AM & PM School journeys. Similar to the 412 and 492. I was literally about to post in which case the 428 seems like a slightly busier 412 then |
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 27, 2024 21:09:56 GMT
Similar to the 412 and 492. I was literally about to post in which case the 428 seems like a slightly busier 412 then That is because the 428 connects to many warehouse buildings on Thames Road so is used by many workers. When I used to do this route at DT the first bus out of Erith is always well used. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 27, 2024 21:17:49 GMT
I was literally about to post in which case the 428 seems like a slightly busier 412 then That is because the 428 connects to many warehouse buildings on Thames Road so is used by many workers. When I used to do this route at DT the first bus out of Erith is always well used. Whereas the 412 is purely school loadings really to require DD. |
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Post by londonbuses on Nov 27, 2024 21:22:30 GMT
Similar to the 412 and 492. I was literally about to post in which case the 428 seems like a slightly busier 412 then I am actually slightly surprised it has survived in its current form, having a relatively short section from Erith to Crayford and then just following the very frequent 96 (not that I'm suggesting it needs to change just to clarify). |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 27, 2024 21:26:05 GMT
I was literally about to post in which case the 428 seems like a slightly busier 412 then I am actually slightly surprised it has survived in its current form, having a relatively short section from Erith to Crayford and then just following the very frequent 96 (not that I'm suggesting it needs to change just to clarify). There was a proposal at one point for it be just Erith to Crayford. |
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Post by londonbuses on Nov 27, 2024 21:46:11 GMT
I am actually slightly surprised it has survived in its current form, having a relatively short section from Erith to Crayford and then just following the very frequent 96 (not that I'm suggesting it needs to change just to clarify). There was a proposal at one point for it be just Erith to Crayford. Crayford was a bit drastic, but I'm surprised it hasn't been cut back to Dartford, as unlike the 492, the 428 doesn't provide unique links between Dartford and Bluewater. |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 27, 2024 22:08:06 GMT
There was a proposal at one point for it be just Erith to Crayford. Crayford was a bit drastic, but I'm surprised it hasn't been cut back to Dartford, as unlike the 492, the 428 doesn't provide unique links between Dartford and Bluewater. What should be done personally to give it something slightly different is an extension to Greenhithe Station and for Stone Crossing & Greenhithe Stations to be moved into the Oyster zone but of course, none of this stuff is ever likely to happen given they lie outside of London. |
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