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Post by northlondonbuses on Aug 9, 2020 11:57:57 GMT
I think if you were to split the 24 then it would make sense for the southern portion to continue further south to Battersea to serve the new development there - having said that I'm not sure extending the 8 is a good idea as it would make it very lengthy. What you could do is maybe cut the 24 back to TCR to allow it to be extended at the other end to Battersea then extend the 27 to Hampstead Heath. I personally don't agree with splitting the 24 but if I had to that'd be how I went about it but with the 134 returned to TCR and extras on the 29 too. Think a Holborn-Battersea route would be good. The 19 does exist btw
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Post by greg on Aug 9, 2020 12:11:40 GMT
Think a Holborn-Battersea route would be good. The 19 does exist btw Yea lol but via Trafalgar Sq, Victoria and Pimlico instead and the 19 goes through a much longer way Sloane Square and Chelsea
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Post by northlondonbuses on Aug 9, 2020 12:16:28 GMT
Yea lol but via Trafalgar Sq, Victoria and Pimlico instead and the 19 goes through a much longer way Sloane Square and Chelsea fair enough
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Post by LJ17THF on Aug 9, 2020 12:32:07 GMT
Yea lol but via Trafalgar Sq, Victoria and Pimlico instead and the 19 goes through a much longer way Sloane Square and Chelsea TfL are trying to cut buses from Central London, I doubt they would introduce a new one without much of a reason, especially when there is already a link (albeit an indirect one).
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Post by vjaska on Aug 9, 2020 12:54:02 GMT
What we could see post COVID is some routes reintroduced as peak time routes. Really good ideas could be the 357, 507 & 521 Now you may wonder where the buses would sit about? The buses would transfer elsewhere in the fleet with the 507 & 521 (I'm not taking the p*ss) gaining the Smile Ealing mini buses as with less people going in it could mean lighter loadings. The 357 could then keep it's Ees. Peak only hours routes don't work in London as buses will be sitting around in garages for majority of the day which isn't a good use of resources. Converting the 507 & 521 to minibus operation makes no sense for commuter routes either regardless of demand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 13:30:09 GMT
What we could see post COVID is some routes reintroduced as peak time routes. Really good ideas could be the 357, 507 & 521 Now you may wonder where the buses would sit about? The buses would transfer elsewhere in the fleet with the 507 & 521 (I'm not taking the p*ss) gaining the Smile Ealing mini buses as with less people going in it could mean lighter loadings. The 357 could then keep it's Ees. Peak only hours routes don't work in London as buses will be sitting around in garages for majority of the day which isn't a good use of resources. Converting the 507 & 521 to minibus operation makes no sense for commuter routes either regardless of demand. I wonder if we could perhaps see a return of evening route extensions outside of the peaks? For example how the 15 used be extended to East Ham in the evenings to cover the 15B (115).
I also remember daytime shopper variations on the 241,262. I wonder if we could see more daytime only routes?
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Post by redexpress on Aug 9, 2020 14:51:18 GMT
Think a Holborn-Battersea route would be good. The 19 does exist btw Funny that you mention the 19... I was just thinking that if TfL have another go at pushing through their plans to curtail the 19 to Holborn, it could easily take over the Pimlico leg of the 24.
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Post by greg on Aug 9, 2020 15:24:09 GMT
Funny that you mention the 19... I was just thinking that if TfL have another go at pushing through their plans to curtail the 19 to Holborn, it could easily take over the Pimlico leg of the 24. 😉😉 I still think a Camden-South London link is needed though, so something has to replace the 24. The 29 would probably be fine if if was extended to Victoria without replacing the 24, but seems unlikely that would be a hell of a route.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 9, 2020 15:37:49 GMT
Funny that you mention the 19... I was just thinking that if TfL have another go at pushing through their plans to curtail the 19 to Holborn, it could easily take over the Pimlico leg of the 24. 😉😉 I still think a Camden-South London link is needed though, so something has to replace the 24. The 29 would probably be fine if if was extended to Victoria without replacing the 24, but seems unlikely that would be a hell of a route. We have one already - it's called the 88. I mean, I wouldn't call Pimlico part of South London myself.
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Post by greg on Aug 9, 2020 15:50:27 GMT
😉😉 I still think a Camden-South London link is needed though, so something has to replace the 24. The 29 would probably be fine if if was extended to Victoria without replacing the 24, but seems unlikely that would be a hell of a route. We have one already - it's called the 88. I mean, I wouldn't call Pimlico part of South London myself. What I mean to say is via Warren Street & Hampstead Road/Goodge Street etc. The 88 and 168 are indeed very useful but have their own routings too. We once had the 14 and 88 at Warren Street but now have none, so technically no routes at Warren Street, although the 88 is a 10 minute walk and the 14 is about 20, and no one is bothered to walk that long. A Piccadilly-Warren Street link is also very appreciated, also through the 14/88 but now none . Shows how much TFL will cut whatever they can now, the C2 was a short useful route and had similar purposes as the W7, they shouldn’t have withdrawn it.
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Post by rif153 on Aug 9, 2020 17:51:04 GMT
We have one already - it's called the 88. I mean, I wouldn't call Pimlico part of South London myself. What I mean to say is via Warren Street & Hampstead Road/Goodge Street etc. The 88 and 168 are indeed very useful but have their own routings too. We once had the 14 and 88 at Warren Street but now have none, so technically no routes at Warren Street, although the 88 is a 10 minute walk and the 14 is about 20, and no one is bothered to walk that long. A Piccadilly-Warren Street link is also very appreciated, also through the 14/88 but now none . Shows how much TFL will cut whatever they can now, the C2 was a short useful route and had similar purposes as the W7, they shouldn’t have withdrawn it. I think another possibility could be cutting the 24 at the southern end to Victoria. Then you could undo the 88/C2 changes by reinstating the C2 (could be a different number) but with the route continuing south of Victoria to Pimilco and onto Battersea, then you could reverse the 88 changes so it reverts to its Camden Town-Clapham Common form going via Warren Street again.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Aug 9, 2020 18:37:07 GMT
We have one already - it's called the 88. I mean, I wouldn't call Pimlico part of South London myself. What I mean to say is via Warren Street & Hampstead Road/Goodge Street etc. The 88 and 168 are indeed very useful but have their own routings too. We once had the 14 and 88 at Warren Street but now have none, so technically no routes at Warren Street, although the 88 is a 10 minute walk and the 14 is about 20, and no one is bothered to walk that long. A Piccadilly-Warren Street link is also very appreciated, also through the 14/88 but now none . Shows how much TFL will cut whatever they can now, the C2 was a short useful route and had similar purposes as the W7, they shouldn’t have withdrawn it. Unfortunately the C2 had its time and unfortunately had been a victim of a cut. The C2 was relatively empty since it's cut in 2017 to Regent Street, so I wasn't suprised the 88 took over. Tbh you can't compare the C2 to the W7, in no way whatsoever. The W7 links 2 massive communities to Finsbury Park that do not have the tube, and also Crouch Hill considering how poorly the GOBLIN had been functioning for the past few years.
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Post by northlondonbuses on Aug 9, 2020 20:34:31 GMT
Funny that you mention the 19... I was just thinking that if TfL have another go at pushing through their plans to curtail the 19 to Holborn, it could easily take over the Pimlico leg of the 24. tbh I dont understand what the point is of cutting the route to Holborn as it wont do anything for the route its an inconvinence for the people living in Battersea/islington and the route dosent suffer from much traffic and is a reliable route
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Post by northlondonbuses on Aug 9, 2020 20:45:20 GMT
They should extend a route/reroute a route such as the 390 and it should go via the old C2 routing (hamleys toy store etc.) I know its probably not needed but it could happen
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 9, 2020 20:56:49 GMT
Funny that you mention the 19... I was just thinking that if TfL have another go at pushing through their plans to curtail the 19 to Holborn, it could easily take over the Pimlico leg of the 24. tbh I dont understand what the point is of cutting the route to Holborn as it wont do anything for the route its an inconvinence for the people living in Battersea/islington and the route dosent suffer from much traffic and is a reliable route Whislt that's all true tfl did say that the route had significant spare capacity so was felt the 14 and 38 could cope along Shaftesbury Avenue without it. Obviously it was quite hard to sell as it would have meant several changes to get from end to end as opposed to route 55 to Shoreditch then change for the 35, 47 and 388 to LB.
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