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Post by COBO on May 3, 2020 2:24:43 GMT
195: withdrawn between Hayes & Harlington Station and Charville Lane. Converted to double deck operation. Withdrawn between Hanwell and Brentford County Court. Diverted to Westway Cross via Uxbridge Road, Church Road, Hanwell Station, Greenford Avenue, Ruislip Road East, Argyle Road, Western Avenue, South Greenford Station, Greenford Road and Green Park Way. Linking Hanwell with Westway.
427: extended from Southall to Hounslow Bus Station via Merrick Road, Norwood Road and route 120 to Hounslow Bus Station. To act as relief for the 120.
495: new route running between Charville Lane and Windmill Lane via route 195 to Hayes & Harlington, E6 to Bulls Bridge, Hayes Road, Western Road, King Street, Norwood Road, Norwood Green, Tentelow Lane, Windmill Lane, Syon Lane, Osterley Tescos, Syon Lane Station, London Road, Brentford High Street, Half Acre, route 195 to Ealing Hospital, Uxbridge Road and Windmill Lane. To maintain links lost by routes 195 and E6. To also link Norwood Green and Osterley to Ealing Hospital.
E6: Discontinued.
U5: Extended from Hayes to Greenford via route E6 to Greenford. To link Greenford with Uxbridge.
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Post by londonboy71 on May 3, 2020 9:40:38 GMT
195: withdrawn between Hayes & Harlington Station and Charville Lane. Converted to double deck operation. 427: extended from Southall to Hounslow Bus Station via Merrick Road, Norwood Road and route 120 to Hounslow Bus Station. To act as relief for the 120. 495: new route running between Charville Lane and Brentford County Court via route 195 to Southall, E6 to Bulls Bridge, Hayes Road, Western Road, King Street, Norwood Road, Norwood Green, Tentelow Lane, Windmill Lane, Syon Lane, Osterley Tescos, Syon Lane Station, London Road, Brentford High Street and Alexandra Road. To maintain links lost by routes 195 and E6. E6: Discontinued. U5: Extended from Hayes to Greenford via route E6 to Greenford. To link Greenford with Uxbridge. Re 495 I been suggesting very similar route for ages but running to Osterley Grant Way. And starting at Ealing Hospital to give Norwoid Green and Osterley access to hospital. |
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Post by londonboy71 on May 3, 2020 9:47:33 GMT
195: withdrawn between Hayes & Harlington Station and Charville Lane. Converted to double deck operation. 427: extended from Southall to Hounslow Bus Station via Merrick Road, Norwood Road and route 120 to Hounslow Bus Station. To act as relief for the 120. 495: new route running between Charville Lane and Brentford County Court via route 195 to Southall, E6 to Bulls Bridge, Hayes Road, Western Road, King Street, Norwood Road, Norwood Green, Tentelow Lane, Windmill Lane, Syon Lane, Osterley Tescos, Syon Lane Station, London Road, Brentford High Street and Alexandra Road. To maintain links lost by routes 195 and E6. E6: Discontinued. U5: Extended from Hayes to Greenford via route E6 to Greenford. To link Greenford with Uxbridge. Re 495 I been suggesting very similar route for ages but running to Osterley Grant Way. And starting at Ealing Hospital to give Norwoid Green and Osterley access to hospital. Ealing Hospital Southall Merrick Road Norwood Green Tentelow Lane Windmill Lane Osterley Tesco Grant Way.maybe run on to WMH direct. Link 2 hospitals give Norwood Green area bus service and some relief for 120. |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 3, 2020 11:06:09 GMT
I saw a leaflet from 1987 when OPO was introduced on the 253 and it said the service structure was Euston to Mile end Gate and Mornington Crescent (Holloway between the peaks) and Aldgate. It said this structure would also be introduced on Saturdays and after the early morning on Sundays. Mornington Crescent to Mile end was quite a bigger overlap then what late came and formalised as the 254 later on. Must have been a very busy service to need that.
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Post by wirewiper on May 3, 2020 11:52:56 GMT
I saw a leaflet from 1987 when OPO was introduced on the 253 and it said the service structure was Euston to Mile end Gate and Mornington Crescent (Holloway between the peaks) and Aldgate. It said this structure would also be introduced on Saturdays and after the early morning on Sundays. Mornington Crescent to Mile end was quite a bigger overlap then what late came and formalised as the 254 later on. Must have been a very busy service to need that. At one point before it was split into the 253 and 254, the overlapping section of the 253 was London's most frequent bus service with intervals of 1-2 minutes at peak times. |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 3, 2020 11:59:45 GMT
Wow. I didnt realise it had got that frequent. Must have been the solo section through Stamford Hill that really generated the loads. Not only was there the overlap between Holloway and Manor House but also the 29 overlapping between Manor house and Camden town aswell and 5bph on the 279 between MH and Holloway. Must have been a massively and intensively busy section around 1999-2003.
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Post by redexpress on May 3, 2020 15:01:54 GMT
I saw a leaflet from 1987 when OPO was introduced on the 253 and it said the service structure was Euston to Mile end Gate and Mornington Crescent (Holloway between the peaks) and Aldgate. It said this structure would also be introduced on Saturdays and after the early morning on Sundays. Mornington Crescent to Mile end was quite a bigger overlap then what late came and formalised as the 254 later on. Must have been a very busy service to need that. Surely Warren Street rather than Euston? The 253 was still running to Warren Street via Hampstead Road in 1987. It was cut back to Mornington Crescent in 1991 then extended to Euston via Eversholt Street in 1992. |
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Post by busaholic on May 3, 2020 16:04:01 GMT
I saw a leaflet from 1987 when OPO was introduced on the 253 and it said the service structure was Euston to Mile end Gate and Mornington Crescent (Holloway between the peaks) and Aldgate. It said this structure would also be introduced on Saturdays and after the early morning on Sundays. Mornington Crescent to Mile end was quite a bigger overlap then what late came and formalised as the 254 later on. Must have been a very busy service to need that. That was the route structure well before that too - in the long hot summers of 1975 and 1976 when I worked for Camden Council and had to visit GLC housing offices at Mornington Crescent and spent a little of lunchtime in the scrubby 'garden' opposite on a bench trying to get cool. There was always one 253 on stand, often two, and sometimes three. They weren't all going to Aldgate by any means, but the other buses coming through from the Post Office Tower terminus were usually bound for Mile End Gate, and never Aldgate. |
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Post by COBO on May 4, 2020 21:50:52 GMT
195: withdrawn between Hayes & Harlington Station and Charville Lane. Converted to double deck operation. 427: extended from Southall to Hounslow Bus Station via Merrick Road, Norwood Road and route 120 to Hounslow Bus Station. To act as relief for the 120. 495: new route running between Charville Lane and Brentford County Court via route 195 to Southall, E6 to Bulls Bridge, Hayes Road, Western Road, King Street, Norwood Road, Norwood Green, Tentelow Lane, Windmill Lane, Syon Lane, Osterley Tescos, Syon Lane Station, London Road, Brentford High Street and Alexandra Road. To maintain links lost by routes 195 and E6. E6: Discontinued. U5: Extended from Hayes to Greenford via route E6 to Greenford. To link Greenford with Uxbridge. Re 495 I been suggesting very similar route for ages but running to Osterley Grant Way. And starting at Ealing Hospital to give Norwoid Green and Osterley access to hospital. I’ve been thinking about maybe making it go a bit more further to Windmill Lane via the 195 to Ealing Hospital and Windmill Lane. To link Osterley and Norwood Green with Ealing Hospital. |
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Post by COBO on May 5, 2020 21:48:24 GMT
378: extended from Putney Bridge to Hammersmith. Diverted via Wetland Centre. Converted to double deck operation. To act as relief for the 220 and to link the Wetland Centre with Hammersmith (The link has been broken since the closure of Hamming Bridge)
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Post by ronnie on May 5, 2020 22:00:15 GMT
375: extended from Putney Bridge to Hammersmith. Diverted via Wetland Centre. Converted to double deck operation. To act as relief for the 220 and to link the Wetland Centre with Hammersmith (The link has been broken since the closure of Hamming Bridge) The 375 runs from Romford to passingford bridge! |
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Post by COBO on May 5, 2020 22:01:47 GMT
375: extended from Putney Bridge to Hammersmith. Diverted via Wetland Centre. Converted to double deck operation. To act as relief for the 220 and to link the Wetland Centre with Hammersmith (The link has been broken since the closure of Hamming Bridge) The 375 runs from Romford to passingford bridge! I meant the 378. |
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Post by rif153 on May 6, 2020 9:46:30 GMT
378: extended from Putney Bridge to Hammersmith. Diverted via Wetland Centre. Converted to double deck operation. To act as relief for the 220 and to link the Wetland Centre with Hammersmith (The link has been broken since the closure of Hamming Bridge) There are issues with DDs on the 378 not least than when passing under the Hounslow Loop at Barnes Bridge they'd have to swerve to the middle of the road to avoid hitting the bridge, this is easier at night when there's less traffic around for the N22. george is local so he'll know more about it than me. |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 6, 2020 9:53:08 GMT
I do wonder if that bridge would have always rendered the 209 to be Single deck even if the bridge ever got restored to be able to take Double deck buses.
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Post by george on May 6, 2020 10:51:18 GMT
I do wonder if that bridge would have always rendered the 209 to be Single deck even if the bridge ever got restored to be able to take Double deck buses. I would like to see the 9 cross Hammersmith Bridge again not that I remember it the first time 😁. I know the new bridge won't take double deckers. |
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