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Post by MoEnviro on Mar 22, 2020 15:30:11 GMT
Heidi Alexander, Deputy Mayor of London for Transport, has revealed that yesterday's Tube journeys were down 87% year-on-year, with bus journeys down 61% (London-wide). That certainly implies that the figures quoted by the Prime Minister a few days ago - of inner London bus journeys falling by 80%; outer London down by 60% - were indeed accurate. It's surely just a matter of time (and not very much time, I would think) until TfL announces further service reductions. I can't see how this level of supply of services can be sustained when there is so little demand. Nothing confirmed yet but suggestions of Sunday service from Monday 30th.
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Post by lonmark on Mar 22, 2020 15:36:22 GMT
Heidi Alexander, Deputy Mayor of London for Transport, has revealed that yesterday's Tube journeys were down 87% year-on-year, with bus journeys down 61% (London-wide). That certainly implies that the figures quoted by the Prime Minister a few days ago - of inner London bus journeys falling by 80%; outer London down by 60% - were indeed accurate. It's surely just a matter of time (and not very much time, I would think) until TfL announces further service reductions. I can't see how this level of supply of services can be sustained when there is so little demand. Nothing confirmed yet but suggestions of Sunday service from Monday 30th. if this suggestion Sunday service then that means I can't get to work at the supermarket as I am a key worker. It means it has to change my hour schedule. Because many bus services start later than Monday to Saturday morning service.
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Post by MoEnviro on Mar 22, 2020 15:40:12 GMT
Nothing confirmed yet but suggestions of Sunday service from Monday 30th. if this suggestion Sunday service then that means I can't get to work at the supermarket as I am a key worker. It means it has to change my hour schedule. Because many bus services start later than Monday to Saturday morning service. I think that point is understood by many as again only suggestion, nothing confirmed but Mon-Sat start times would be retained. With possibly some kind of AM ‘peak’ enhancement. I would expect a decision to be made Tomorrow/Tuesday. Maybe once the impact of this weeks changes has been witnessed.
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 22, 2020 15:46:46 GMT
Heidi Alexander, Deputy Mayor of London for Transport, has revealed that yesterday's Tube journeys were down 87% year-on-year, with bus journeys down 61% (London-wide). That certainly implies that the figures quoted by the Prime Minister a few days ago - of inner London bus journeys falling by 80%; outer London down by 60% - were indeed accurate. It's surely just a matter of time (and not very much time, I would think) until TfL announces further service reductions. I can't see how this level of supply of services can be sustained when there is so little demand. It will be the same outside London. Every day last week there was a Government statement or policy decision which drove ever more people off the buses and trains each day - the forced closure of all social venues last Friday was the final straw. Today the buses round my way should have been busy with people out and about enjoying the first really good weekend weather we have had for weeks - but they have been carrying penny numbers, even on a reduced Sunday timetable. Things have moved so fast that operators are deluding themselves that merely moving to a Saturday timetable will stem the losses. My guess is that the schedulers at most operators up and down the UK will be working flat out next week to prepare drastically reduced emergency timetables, which will come into effect on Monday 30th March.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 22, 2020 18:35:55 GMT
if this suggestion Sunday service then that means I can't get to work at the supermarket as I am a key worker. It means it has to change my hour schedule. Because many bus services start later than Monday to Saturday morning service. I think that point is understood by many as again only suggestion, nothing confirmed but Mon-Sat start times would be retained. With possibly some kind of AM ‘peak’ enhancement. I would expect a decision to be made Tomorrow/Tuesday. Maybe once the impact of this weeks changes has been witnessed. That sounds quite sensible I have to admit.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Mar 23, 2020 13:43:18 GMT
Could probably do a Sunday service on the weekends now and a Saturday service with even some routes not running (349 covered by the 279 as far as Seven Sisters). The night tube routes (132, 154 etc) have stopped aswell now. The 149 also covers it from Edmonton Green to Stamford Hill, Egerton Road. The only parts of the route 349 not served by the 279 & 149 include Rookwood Road (Stamford Hill) in both directions as well as Enfield Bus Garage in both directions and Stamford Hill Broadway towards Ponders End however everywhere not served by the 2 routes is within walking distance.
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Post by rambo on Mar 25, 2020 16:57:33 GMT
30% of tube workers of sick/isolating. I wonder what the figure is for bus drivers?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 20:04:21 GMT
30% of tube workers of sick/isolating. I wonder what the figure is for bus drivers? There's definitely been a big reduction, where I work at W we've been short of drivers due to some self isolating
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Post by thelondonthing on Mar 27, 2020 19:23:46 GMT
In a TfL press release published yesterday, London Transport Commissioner Mike Brown said that journeys by Tube and rail passengers have now fallen by 92%, while bus journeys have decreased by 80% across the capital. Five days ago, bus journeys across London were down by roughly 60% year-over-year; if nothing else, it's encouraging to see that significantly more people are staying at home (or, at the very least, avoiding public transport). Brown also mentioned (as did rambo a couple of days ago) that "about 30 per cent of [Tube] drivers, station staff, controllers and maintenance teams are not able to come to work, including those self-isolating or ill with coronavirus", explaining that TfL is doing its best to run as many Underground services as possible with its remaining staff, and to better apply "station control measures" to reduce overcrowding on platforms and trains. This was presumably in response to public criticism from some quarters this week, claiming that TfL and the Mayor were not doing enough to prevent scenes of packed Tube trains during peak times. He added that "staff keeping the network running are making a heroic effort". Also unrelated to buses, but worth highlighting: Brown also noted that all work on the Elizabeth Line, and other TfL construction projects, has been halted (this was actually announced separately, a few days ago).
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 27, 2020 22:09:44 GMT
Nothing confirmed yet but suggestions of Sunday service from Monday 30th. if this suggestion Sunday service then that means I can't get to work at the supermarket as I am a key worker. It means it has to change my hour schedule. Because many bus services start later than Monday to Saturday morning service. The Sunday service is on some routes next week, not all. Those that have late starting times for a Sunday would have a few special duties in the early morning for this purpose to fill gaps. They would try at best to do "first and last bus" times from the Monday - Friday schedule
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Post by vjaska on Mar 28, 2020 0:01:36 GMT
In a TfL press release published yesterday, London Transport Commissioner Mike Brown said that journeys by Tube and rail passengers have now fallen by 92%, while bus journeys have decreased by 80% across the capital. Five days ago, bus journeys across London were down by roughly 60% year-over-year; if nothing else, it's encouraging to see that significantly more people are staying at home (or, at the very least, avoiding public transport). Brown also mentioned (as did rambo a couple of days ago) that "about 30 per cent of [Tube] drivers, station staff, controllers and maintenance teams are not able to come to work, including those self-isolating or ill with coronavirus", explaining that TfL is doing its best to run as many Underground services as possible with its remaining staff, and to better apply "station control measures" to reduce overcrowding on platforms and trains. This was presumably in response to public criticism from some quarters this week, claiming that TfL and the Mayor were not doing enough to prevent scenes of packed Tube trains during peak times. He added that "staff keeping the network running are making a heroic effort". Also unrelated to buses, but worth highlighting: Brown also noted that all work on the Elizabeth Line, and other TfL construction projects, has been halted (this was actually announced separately, a few days ago). I'm far from Khan's biggest fan but I thought the criticism he got was ridiculous especially from Matt Hancock where he used one of the daily briefings to criticise the mayor & TfL for running fewer services. So far, TfL have done a lot right during the epidemic personally.
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Post by driver027 on Mar 28, 2020 0:10:36 GMT
Ahh tube drivers isolating you do surprise me....not as if their job is basically done in full isolation is it?
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Post by vjaska on Mar 28, 2020 2:33:00 GMT
Ahh tube drivers isolating you do surprise me....not as if their job is basically done in full isolation is it? Outside of driving, I'm sure they come into contact with people so of course, if any have symptoms or are confirmed to have the virus, then they have to self isolate like anyone else would.
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Post by TA1 on Mar 28, 2020 6:49:43 GMT
Ahh tube drivers isolating you do surprise me....not as if their job is basically done in full isolation is it? God loves a troll, not a tube driver, but a train driver with half the drivers in my company off at the minute. Do we not have families, some members who may have underlining health issues or no immune systems, do we come into contact with passengers when changing ends? I have acute asthma but my company consider me not to be a risk, so I’m carrying on even to the extent where i’ve distanced from household. Up the key workers!!
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Mar 28, 2020 7:30:03 GMT
If a Sunday services is introduced across the board for the duration would this be the first time there's been a general Sunday service on a Saturday? Not quite, as Boxing Day and New Years Day would have fallen on Saturday in the past Boxing Day this year will indeed be on a Saturday. I know for 2 nice reasons. The first is that every date between March 1st and December 31st is on the same day of the week as 1981, probably the best year of my life. The second is that Boxing Day is the birthday of Jade Thirlwall from Little Mix, who was born on Boxing Day in 1992 which was a Saturday.
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