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Post by wirewiper on Mar 28, 2020 8:38:50 GMT
Ahh tube drivers isolating you do surprise me....not as if their job is basically done in full isolation is it? We get that you hate your job and your employer but there is no need to have a go at another group of workers in this sarcastic manner.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 29, 2020 2:10:50 GMT
We get that you hate your job and your employer but there is no need to have a go at another group of workers in this sarcastic manner. Wasn’t sarcastic at all. Bring on the driverless trains. I want driverless trains as much as yourself - however, that doesn't mean you can lambast them for having to self isolate if they've got symptons or actually have the illness because that's the guidance whether people like it or not.
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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 29, 2020 8:44:30 GMT
Wasn’t sarcastic at all. Bring on the driverless trains. I want driverless trains as much as yourself - however, that doesn't mean you can lambast them for having to self isolate if they've got symptons or actually have the illness because that's the guidance whether people like it or not. Even a driverless train do still have a train member on it like with the DLR or would you all feel safe on a train without a member of staff. I know I wouldn't.
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Post by richard on Mar 29, 2020 9:28:33 GMT
Keep drivers ON trains be it National Rail or the Tube they are there for YOUR safety #Keepthedriveronthetrain
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Post by RM5chris on Mar 29, 2020 11:13:38 GMT
greenboy , I reported the post. I'm not putting up with that aggressive posting on here. I've reported it as well and it's rather disappointing that it hasn't been removed by now. Some of us do have lives.....or working, please remember that. No need to complain in threads and keep things off course. Edits made to posts and some removed. RM5Chris TBF Admin & Moderation Team
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Post by ThinLizzy on Mar 29, 2020 12:06:40 GMT
Ahh tube drivers isolating you do surprise me....not as if their job is basically done in full isolation is it? it's not all done in full isolation. You'll also find the staff shortages on LU are not just down to drivers- there's also station staff, signallers, rolling stock technicians and engineering staff. You'll also find that people can actually catch COVID-19 outside of the workplace as well, and us rail workers do also have families in their household who can also catch the virus meaning they have to isolate- there are also some staff who have other health issues which mean they have to be kept isolated.
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Post by Alex on Mar 29, 2020 23:26:33 GMT
I've been reading this and saddened at how some people view others in this unprecedented situation. I appreciate the mods deleting posts but I am thinking maybe some parts are still visible through the quotes on member posts. I think it's quite a low time to have a swipe at people's occupations so I don't want to get into this too much. However I will mention the following points: As others have posted, there is still quite a bit of interaction between train crews and others. Isolation within the cab is more prevalent on some LUL lines than others - particularly District and Piccadilly line drivers will change ends less, while for example Victoria line drivers are changing ends and waiting around on platforms (due to a process called stepping back - designed to speed up train reversal) around every half an hour. Also staff mess room (old word for staff room) facilities don't allow for much social distancing - though where I am management are opening up training rooms and unused offices for this purpose. Staff travelling between locations are now instructed to maintain a social distance between themselves and the Train Operator of a train, and agree to travel in the rear cab. Travelling between locations (which features in LUL duties) is now being avoided wherever possible. Consideration should not be made towards the job at hand - in itself, but to how employees travel to work. Many live far from their home depots so have to use public transport to travel into work. For a great deal of LUL staff this can mean 2-4 hours a day travelling, and with non-essential working people travelling (this is happening) and beggers out in force (who in my opinion are the greatest risk factor - seeing as they're on trains all day long with added exposure and close proximity to mainly key workers who we need to protect) there are risks there, far beyond the stay at home advice which most (if not all) employees would rather be using. There are some excellent posts here which reinforce that's not all about the drivers - trains cannot run if signallers and controllers are not at work - stations cannot open if there aren't enough staff. We are going through hard times and I salute the vast majority of forum members who can see that we need to focus on what's right at the moment - there's a fair few posts I need to hit a 'like' to and I'll get round to it , sadly with the work and domestic situation being so fraught it's hard to get a decent run-up at it on here Crikey I felt like Boris saying all that
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 10:38:25 GMT
Didn't really know which thread to put this on but Optare have temporarily suspended all production aswell.
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Post by thelondonthing on Apr 5, 2020 9:38:31 GMT
Sadly, five workers on the London bus network have died after testing positive for COVID-19. The news was revealed late last night by union Unite, and was confirmed this morning by the Mayor of London. For further discussion on this terrible news, a separate thread has been created here by capitalomnibus .
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Post by paulsw2 on Apr 5, 2020 13:41:00 GMT
Ahh tube drivers isolating you do surprise me....not as if their job is basically done in full isolation is it? If you checked your facts before making a silly comment you would find that we have to travel on trains to get to our pick up points how is that isolated. You may not like tube drivers because of our terms and conditions but making uninformed statements shows extreme bad taste when EVERYONE is at risk.
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Post by driver027 on Apr 5, 2020 15:29:56 GMT
Yeah not as if you ride up front on the cab with the driver is it
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Post by TA1 on Apr 5, 2020 15:36:52 GMT
Yeah not as if you ride up front on the cab with the driver is it Give it a rest your ill-informed digs at Tube/Train Drivers are quite degrading. In this climate, We’re doing our bit to ensure we get key workers about their days to do good for society. You’d be the same keyboard warrior to criticise us if public transport workers opted not to work.
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 5, 2020 17:27:38 GMT
I've been reading this and saddened at how some people view others in this unprecedented situation. I appreciate the mods deleting posts but I am thinking maybe some parts are still visible through the quotes on member posts. I think it's quite a low time to have a swipe at people's occupations so I don't want to get into this too much. However I will mention the following points: As others have posted, there is still quite a bit of interaction between train crews and others. Isolation within the cab is more prevalent on some LUL lines than others - particularly District and Piccadilly line drivers will change ends less, while for example Victoria line drivers are changing ends and waiting around on platforms (due to a process called stepping back - designed to speed up train reversal) around every half an hour. Also staff mess room (old word for staff room) facilities don't allow for much social distancing - though where I am management are opening up training rooms and unused offices for this purpose. Staff travelling between locations are now instructed to maintain a social distance between themselves and the Train Operator of a train, and agree to travel in the rear cab. Travelling between locations (which features in LUL duties) is now being avoided wherever possible. Consideration should not be made towards the job at hand - in itself, but to how employees travel to work. Many live far from their home depots so have to use public transport to travel into work. For a great deal of LUL staff this can mean 2-4 hours a day travelling, and with non-essential working people travelling (this is happening) and beggers out in force (who in my opinion are the greatest risk factor - seeing as they're on trains all day long with added exposure and close proximity to mainly key workers who we need to protect) there are risks there, far beyond the stay at home advice which most (if not all) employees would rather be using. There are some excellent posts here which reinforce that's not all about the drivers - trains cannot run if signallers and controllers are not at work - stations cannot open if there aren't enough staff. We are going through hard times and I salute the vast majority of forum members who can see that we need to focus on what's right at the moment - there's a fair few posts I need to hit a 'like' to and I'll get round to it , sadly with the work and domestic situation being so fraught it's hard to get a decent run-up at it on here Crikey I felt like Boris saying all that I do quite a bit for TfL IT (used to be called IMAC Team) and most of the ticket halls are cramped when I've gone to rescue a printer, as well as other staff offices. The risks are high. Spare a thought for the 5 bus drivers / staff who suffered the effects of COVID-19 recently. Throwing around insults or aspersions in this time is not the best thing to do, we may not understand why some people are out there, for the majority it's not for fun. I have to somehow take a trip to west London (Willesden) next month and am dreading it if the lockdown is still there (going into a highly infected borough / contaminated grab poles on buses - unless I pick an Uber instead). I feel for the drivers having to go out, most times in an increasingly empty bus to provide a service. I wonder if ridership will recover from this whenever normality resumes?
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Post by 15002 on Apr 5, 2020 17:47:51 GMT
Yeah not as if you ride up front on the cab with the driver is it Give it a rest your ill-informed digs at Tube/Train Drivers are quite degrading. In this climate, We’re doing our bit to ensure we get key workers about their days to do good for society. You’d be the same keyboard warrior to criticise us if public transport workers opted not to work. I wouldn’t worry about him, he’s just a troll trying to get a reaction out of people on this forum. The rest of us do appreciate the bus drivers and train drivers that get key workers to their jobs
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Post by TA1 on Apr 5, 2020 19:28:38 GMT
Give it a rest your ill-informed digs at Tube/Train Drivers are quite degrading. In this climate, We’re doing our bit to ensure we get key workers about their days to do good for society. You’d be the same keyboard warrior to criticise us if public transport workers opted not to work. I wouldn’t worry about him, he’s just a troll trying to get a reaction out of people on this forum. The rest of us do appreciate the bus drivers and train drivers that get key workers to their jobs I get it mate, people make comments about my profession all the time, usually spurred by the media whom focus on our salaries, although some see it as easy opening and closing doors and pushing a button. In many cases, You have to retain vast route knowledge, know how to fix your train if a failure occurs, deal with emergency situations. After my near miss and fatality my training came into full effect but a pretty horrifying experience to say the least. However, the comments have quite frankly peeed me off because we’re all human being’s some have underlining health issues, someone in their home might. Train cabs are not being cleaned. Again the reduced service on the underground isn’t only because the availability of train operators, but station staff, signallers, train maintainers. It would be unfair to try and run a better service which could influence more to travel leave that to the key workers. Nobody should have to die doing their job, also to that user within the last couple of hours a LNER driver has succumbed to Covid19, but we shouldn’t obtain right because we’re isolated and don’t come into other people. Very glad their’s a swear filter on this forum. Any issues, feel free to PM - I’ll be glad to deal with this privately.
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