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Post by wirewiper on Jun 27, 2020 18:05:43 GMT
Following Stagecoach's announcement that it was to withdraw its Severn Express route between Chepstow and Bristol from 14th June, Comfort DelGro-owned NAT Group has stepped in with a replacement X7 "TrawsHafren". Commencing on 15th June, the new service operates hourly on Mondays to Fridays only, and unlike the Stagecoach route it operates via Cribbs Causeway, entering Bristol via Clifton Down. The service requires two buses and is operated from a base in Magor; the first two journeys commence in service from there and the last two journeys are extended there.
Had NAT not stepped in, the Severn Crossing would have been without a scheduled bus service since the first bridge opened in September 1966; although a number of express coach services continue to use the crossing.
The venture, which is supported by TrawsCymru and Monmouthshire Council, will operate for six months to see if it is successful.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 27, 2020 18:18:12 GMT
Following Stagecoach's announcement that it was to withdraw its Severn Express route between Chepstow and Bristol from 14th June, Comfort DelGro-owned NAT Group has stepped in with a replacement X7 "TrawsHafren". Commencing on 15th June, the new service operates hourly on Mondays to Fridays only, and unlike the Stagecoach route it operates via Cribbs Causeway, entering Bristol via Clifton Down. The service requires two buses and is operated from a base in Magor; the first two journeys commence in service from there and the last two journeys are extended there. Had NAT not stepped in, the Severn Crossing would have been without a scheduled bus service since the first bridge opened in September 1966; although a number of express coach services continue to use the crossing. The venture, which is supported by TrawsCymru and Monmouthshire Council, will operate for six months to see if it is successful. And people moan about cuts in London! |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 27, 2020 19:04:05 GMT
Following Stagecoach's announcement that it was to withdraw its Severn Express route between Chepstow and Bristol from 14th June, Comfort DelGro-owned NAT Group has stepped in with a replacement X7 "TrawsHafren". Commencing on 15th June, the new service operates hourly on Mondays to Fridays only, and unlike the Stagecoach route it operates via Cribbs Causeway, entering Bristol via Clifton Down. The service requires two buses and is operated from a base in Magor; the first two journeys commence in service from there and the last two journeys are extended there. Had NAT not stepped in, the Severn Crossing would have been without a scheduled bus service since the first bridge opened in September 1966; although a number of express coach services continue to use the crossing. The venture, which is supported by TrawsCymru and Monmouthshire Council, will operate for six months to see if it is successful. And people moan about cuts in London! So because we live in London, we shouldn't moan and just accept it? Never heard so much rubbish in all my life! |
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 28, 2020 13:52:42 GMT
And people moan about cuts in London! So because we live in London, we shouldn't moan and just accept it? Never heard so much rubbish in all my life! You just don't appreciate how good we have it. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 28, 2020 14:07:12 GMT
So because we live in London, we shouldn't moan and just accept it? Never heard so much rubbish in all my life! You just don't appreciate how good we have it. Except I do hence why I would like to retain it as much as possible |
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 28, 2020 15:04:11 GMT
You just don't appreciate how good we have it. Except I do hence why I would like to retain it as much as possible Yes, although London-based enthusiasts complain about routes being abolished, cut back or reduced in frequency, there are many towns and cities in the Uk that would dearly love to have even that reduced level of service. In Torbay, where I live, there are just two routes that run at best every ten minutes. The main local routes operate every 20 minutes during the day (down from every 15 minutes from just a few years ago) and every 30 minutes in the evening, and these are supplemented by midibus routes that operate hourly with no evening and Sunday service, and a couple of routes that operate a limited shopping service. Some routes disappeared totally three years ago when a local operator shut up shop, leaving parts of Torquay without reasonable access to any bus service, and the same looks set to happen to a couple of Brixham town services at the end of July unless another operator steps in. Night Buses? Oh yes we have those - on one route, on Friday and Saturday nights (when there isn't a pandemic on). And you don't have to go far from London to see the difference in provision. The Watford urban area has a lot of similar characteristics to an outer London borough, but look at the difference in bus service provision. Or contrast the networks in neighbouring Sutton (Greater London) and Epsom (Surrey). |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 28, 2020 15:51:43 GMT
Except I do hence why I would like to retain it as much as possible Yes, although London-based enthusiasts complain about routes being abolished, cut back or reduced in frequency, there are many towns and cities in the Uk that would dearly love to have even that reduced level of service. In Torbay, where I live, there are just two routes that run at best every ten minutes. The main local routes operate every 20 minutes during the day (down from every 15 minutes from just a few years ago) and every 30 minutes in the evening, and these are supplemented by midibus routes that operate hourly with no evening and Sunday service, and a couple of routes that operate a limited shopping service. Some routes disappeared totally three years ago when a local operator shut up shop, leaving parts of Torquay without reasonable access to any bus service, and the same looks set to happen to a couple of Brixham town services at the end of July unless another operator steps in. Night Buses? Oh yes we have those - on one route, on Friday and Saturday nights (when there isn't a pandemic on). And you don't have to go far from London to see the difference in provision. The Watford urban area has a lot of similar characteristics to an outer London borough, but look at the difference in bus service provision. Or contrast the networks in neighbouring Sutton (Greater London) and Epsom (Surrey). Again, that shouldn't mean that people in London are not allowed to moan about cuts - I don't agree with the lack of investment that has happened outside of London but it shouldn't be used as weapon against those of us living in London who need public transport which is my point. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 28, 2020 16:04:26 GMT
Yes, although London-based enthusiasts complain about routes being abolished, cut back or reduced in frequency, there are many towns and cities in the Uk that would dearly love to have even that reduced level of service. In Torbay, where I live, there are just two routes that run at best every ten minutes. The main local routes operate every 20 minutes during the day (down from every 15 minutes from just a few years ago) and every 30 minutes in the evening, and these are supplemented by midibus routes that operate hourly with no evening and Sunday service, and a couple of routes that operate a limited shopping service. Some routes disappeared totally three years ago when a local operator shut up shop, leaving parts of Torquay without reasonable access to any bus service, and the same looks set to happen to a couple of Brixham town services at the end of July unless another operator steps in. Night Buses? Oh yes we have those - on one route, on Friday and Saturday nights (when there isn't a pandemic on). And you don't have to go far from London to see the difference in provision. The Watford urban area has a lot of similar characteristics to an outer London borough, but look at the difference in bus service provision. Or contrast the networks in neighbouring Sutton (Greater London) and Epsom (Surrey). Again, that shouldn't mean that people in London are not allowed to moan about cuts - I don't agree with the lack of investment that has happened outside of London but it shouldn't be used as weapon against those of us living in London who need public transport which is my point. Yes I don't think London's bus services should be cut to provincial levels - there needs to be investment in and support for better bus services across the board. |
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 28, 2020 16:23:48 GMT
Yes, although London-based enthusiasts complain about routes being abolished, cut back or reduced in frequency, there are many towns and cities in the Uk that would dearly love to have even that reduced level of service. In Torbay, where I live, there are just two routes that run at best every ten minutes. The main local routes operate every 20 minutes during the day (down from every 15 minutes from just a few years ago) and every 30 minutes in the evening, and these are supplemented by midibus routes that operate hourly with no evening and Sunday service, and a couple of routes that operate a limited shopping service. Some routes disappeared totally three years ago when a local operator shut up shop, leaving parts of Torquay without reasonable access to any bus service, and the same looks set to happen to a couple of Brixham town services at the end of July unless another operator steps in. Night Buses? Oh yes we have those - on one route, on Friday and Saturday nights (when there isn't a pandemic on). And you don't have to go far from London to see the difference in provision. The Watford urban area has a lot of similar characteristics to an outer London borough, but look at the difference in bus service provision. Or contrast the networks in neighbouring Sutton (Greater London) and Epsom (Surrey). Again, that shouldn't mean that people in London are not allowed to moan about cuts - I don't agree with the lack of investment that has happened outside of London but it shouldn't be used as weapon against those of us living in London who need public transport which is my point. Maybe Londoners are over privileged and expect too much ... maybe now is the time for their expectations to be reset, so they have a new norm. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 28, 2020 18:23:55 GMT
Again, that shouldn't mean that people in London are not allowed to moan about cuts - I don't agree with the lack of investment that has happened outside of London but it shouldn't be used as weapon against those of us living in London who need public transport which is my point. Yes I don't think London's bus services should be cut to provincial levels - there needs to be investment in and support for better bus services across the board. Indeed, I completely agree with that - hopefully, that comes about sooner rather than later  |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 28, 2020 19:35:38 GMT
Again, that shouldn't mean that people in London are not allowed to moan about cuts - I don't agree with the lack of investment that has happened outside of London but it shouldn't be used as weapon against those of us living in London who need public transport which is my point. Maybe Londoners are over privileged and expect too much ... maybe now is the time for their expectations to be reset, so they have a new norm. London and the Severn Crossing is not the same place. Yemen is currently a war zone, therefore do we not have a right to moan about inequality and issues here? I think not. Do you think the United Kingdom as a whole should be turned into a war zone so that we appreciate what we once had? I don't think so either. |
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 28, 2020 20:24:03 GMT
Maybe Londoners are over privileged and expect too much ... maybe now is the time for their expectations to be reset, so they have a new norm. London and the Severn Crossing is not the same place. Yemen is currently a war zone, therefore do we not have a right to moan about inequality and issues here? I think not. Do you think the United Kingdom as a whole should be turned into a war zone so that we appreciate what we once had? I don't think so either. Sure Bristol will be glad to hear you compared them to a war zone |
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Post by george on Jun 28, 2020 20:48:11 GMT
London and the Severn Crossing is not the same place. Yemen is currently a war zone, therefore do we not have a right to moan about inequality and issues here? I think not. Do you think the United Kingdom as a whole should be turned into a war zone so that we appreciate what we once had? I don't think so either. Sure Bristol will be glad to hear you compared them to a war zone Pretty sure the whole point of the message is these things shouldn't be compared. There's a war in Yemen so should we forget about issues here? No There's bus cuts in Wales so should we not complain about bus cuts in London? No Someone else is having a hard time at the moment so should you put all your problems to one side? NO |
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