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Post by redbus on Jan 19, 2022 21:49:30 GMT
Would things like Good train’s and would Steam locomotives able to run though the tunnel? In theory a freight train could run although would have to be electric-hauled only although with the frequency expected over the central section, there won’t be any paths for one. If overnight, might as well run over the North London line when there’s no service there anyway Leaving aside all the other points, I suspect you would need to close the line to let a steam train through as they are almost certainly incompatible with the signalling system.
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Post by WH241 on Jan 19, 2022 22:03:58 GMT
Everything coming together nicely for a spring opening! Testing dates announced, 304 bus stop installed at Custom House station.
I wonder could they go for opening over Easter weekend?
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 22, 2022 8:12:30 GMT
My money is on the line opening on the same day as the May timetable change.
I mean just metaphorically. I have not paid an Advance rate for any hotel in the area that weekend!
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Post by buspete on Jan 23, 2022 1:13:15 GMT
The original Fleet Line was meant to go to Thamesmead, it never did.
I wonder why the Abbey Wood branch wasn’t extended into Thamesmead. This coupled with London Overground extended from Barking to Thamesmead and I reckon you could also run District/Hammersmith and City Lines down there too, then you would have quite a formidable train station in Thamesmead?
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Post by Busboy105 on Jan 23, 2022 8:06:49 GMT
The original Fleet Line was meant to go to Thamesmead, it never did. I wonder why the Abbey Wood branch wasn’t extended into Thamesmead. This coupled with London Overground extended from Barking to Thamesmead and I reckon you could also run District/Hammersmith and City Lines down there too, then you would have quite a formidable train station in Thamesmead? Is the DLR proposed extension to Thamesmead dead? Because that could be why Crossrail won't go to Thamesmead
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Post by greenboy on Jan 23, 2022 9:53:08 GMT
The original Fleet Line was meant to go to Thamesmead, it never did. I wonder why the Abbey Wood branch wasn’t extended into Thamesmead. This coupled with London Overground extended from Barking to Thamesmead and I reckon you could also run District/Hammersmith and City Lines down there too, then you would have quite a formidable train station in Thamesmead? Is the DLR proposed extension to Thamesmead dead? Because that could be why Crossrail won't go to Thamesmead I don't think it's dead but there are concerns that it would be overwhelmed by demand. I think what buspete suggested, Crossrail and H&C to Thamesmead would have been the best option.
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Post by twobellstogo on Jan 24, 2022 13:23:10 GMT
The original Fleet Line was meant to go to Thamesmead, it never did. I wonder why the Abbey Wood branch wasn’t extended into Thamesmead. This coupled with London Overground extended from Barking to Thamesmead and I reckon you could also run District/Hammersmith and City Lines down there too, then you would have quite a formidable train station in Thamesmead? Is the DLR proposed extension to Thamesmead dead? Because that could be why Crossrail won't go to Thamesmead As far as I am aware, the DLR Thamesmead extension is one of very few TfL projects not to be culled (yet). Extending the Lizzy Line to Thamesmead would be horrendously difficult. Better to either extend the DLR to Thamesmead, or the Goblin across the river, as that line at least points in a direction that doesn’t involve massive great awkward curves.
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Post by busman on Jan 24, 2022 15:03:29 GMT
Is the DLR proposed extension to Thamesmead dead? Because that could be why Crossrail won't go to Thamesmead As far as I am aware, the DLR Thamesmead extension is one of very few TfL projects not to be culled (yet). Extending the Lizzy Line to Thamesmead would be horrendously difficult. Better to either extend the DLR to Thamesmead, or the Goblin across the river, as that line at least points in a direction that doesn’t involve massive great awkward curves. I remember reading somewhere that frequency on a Goblin extension on the Barking Riverside branch is capped to around 4 trains per hour. For me, the links from an overground connection would be better (in the sense that there are more unique links created), but for capacity reasons it has been argued that DLR might be a better option. A DLR extension would reduce also crowding at Woolwich and Abbey Wood stations. The Woolwich DLR branch could do with some relief. Trains often leave the platform full….or at least they used to pre-pandemic. The situation will only exacerbate due to the huge numbers of flats being built between King George V and Canning Town.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 24, 2022 15:23:12 GMT
As far as I am aware, the DLR Thamesmead extension is one of very few TfL projects not to be culled (yet). Extending the Lizzy Line to Thamesmead would be horrendously difficult. Better to either extend the DLR to Thamesmead, or the Goblin across the river, as that line at least points in a direction that doesn’t involve massive great awkward curves. I remember reading somewhere that frequency on a Goblin extension on the Barking Riverside branch is capped to around 4 trains per hour. For me, the links from an overground connection would be better (in the sense that there are more unique links created), but for capacity reasons it has been argued that DLR might be a better option. A DLR extension would reduce also crowding at Woolwich and Abbey Wood stations. The Woolwich DLR branch could do with some relief. Trains often leave the platform full….or at least they used to pre-pandemic. The situation will only exacerbate due to the huge numbers of flats being built between King George V and Canning Town. I believe the issue was also the fact that if the GOBLIN was extended, the pressure on Barking would rise even more for a station that already struggles to cope. There have already been concerns about Barking Riverside's impact on the stayion
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Post by richard on Jan 25, 2022 15:14:57 GMT
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Post by ronnie on Jan 25, 2022 17:20:50 GMT
I remember reading somewhere that frequency on a Goblin extension on the Barking Riverside branch is capped to around 4 trains per hour. For me, the links from an overground connection would be better (in the sense that there are more unique links created), but for capacity reasons it has been argued that DLR might be a better option. A DLR extension would reduce also crowding at Woolwich and Abbey Wood stations. The Woolwich DLR branch could do with some relief. Trains often leave the platform full….or at least they used to pre-pandemic. The situation will only exacerbate due to the huge numbers of flats being built between King George V and Canning Town. I believe the issue was also the fact that if the GOBLIN was extended, the pressure on Barking would rise even more for a station that already struggles to cope. There have already been concerns about Barking Riverside's impact on the stayion On paper the dlr extension makes more sense - not sure people in thamesmead want a connection to head to barking for trains which are already crowded (pre covid). The trouble is trying to balance a service to beckton vs thamesmead - maybe more trains running through to Stratford international?
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Post by WH241 on Jan 25, 2022 22:07:05 GMT
Is the 345 rolling stock rotated between TfL rail service and the testing service? Or are the trains that are going to start on the Abbey Wood - Paddington line in a brand new condition?
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Post by YY13VKP on Jan 25, 2022 22:09:53 GMT
Is the 345 rolling stock rotated between TfL rail service and the testing service? Or are the trains that are going to start on the Abbey Wood - Paddington line in a brand new condition? I believe they are being rotated from being in service and being test. Suppose they would want to use each unit at least once to test for any individual defect during trial running.
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Post by buspete on Jan 25, 2022 22:40:44 GMT
If you could extend the Gobin to Thamesmead, why cannot the Underground services that turn at Barking run down the same line and terminate at Thamesmead?
Someone mentioned overcrowding on the DLR from Woolwich Arsenal, Crossrail will take a lot of people away from Woolwich, same as Greenwich people who changed there for DLR to Canary Wharf will again use Crossrail.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 26, 2022 0:06:15 GMT
If you could extend the Gobin to Thamesmead, why cannot the Underground services that turn at Barking run down the same line and terminate at Thamesmead? Someone mentioned overcrowding on the DLR from Woolwich Arsenal, Crossrail will take a lot of people away from Woolwich, same as Greenwich people who changed there for DLR to Canary Wharf will again use Crossrail. Someone would probably say software or signalling. That is the problem with modern stuff, it is near on useless for interworking different types of trains on the same line. Also where would the Hammersmith & City link onto the new Goblin extension.
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