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Post by cc2005 on Sept 2, 2020 8:42:49 GMT
I've compiled a list of current DD broad body designs (not exact layouts/variants, as there may be variants within each category), and type codes for the major London operators.
We can see Go Ahead / Metroline seem to have the largest variety of buses, Stagecoach / Abeliio the least interesting....
Happy for additions/corrections/updates
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Post by COBO on Sept 2, 2020 8:47:09 GMT
I've compiled a list of current DD broad body designs (not exact layouts/variants, as there may be variants within each category), and type codes for the major London operators. We can see Go Ahead / Metroline seem to have the largest variety of buses, Stagecoach / Abeliio the least interesting.... Happy for additions/corrections/updates You forgot WN under Tower Transit for the Wright DAF.
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Post by COBO on Sept 2, 2020 8:48:32 GMT
I've compiled a list of current DD broad body designs (not exact layouts/variants, as there may be variants within each category), and type codes for the major London operators. We can see Go Ahead / Metroline seem to have the largest variety of buses, Stagecoach / Abeliio the least interesting.... Happy for additions/corrections/updates You forgot WN under Tower Transit for the Wright DAF. What Wright 2.5 hybrids?
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Post by cc2005 on Sept 2, 2020 8:56:37 GMT
I've compiled a list of current DD broad body designs (not exact layouts/variants, as there may be variants within each category), and type codes for the major London operators. We can see Go Ahead / Metroline seem to have the largest variety of buses, Stagecoach / Abeliio the least interesting.... Happy for additions/corrections/updates You forgot WN under Tower Transit for the Wright DAF. oh yes, I'll add it in, thanks
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Post by cc2005 on Sept 2, 2020 8:58:53 GMT
You forgot WN under Tower Transit for the Wright DAF. What Wright 2.5 hybrids? Whatever the official name is, the ones with the G2 front, and the G3 bodies, like Metroline VWH2034 or RATP VH45126
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Post by COBO on Sept 2, 2020 8:59:59 GMT
Whatever the official name is, the ones with the G2 front, and the G3 bodies, like Metroline VWH2034 or RATP VH45126 They are officially called Wright Eclipse Gemini 3.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 2, 2020 11:40:24 GMT
Whatever the official name is, the ones with the G2 front, and the G3 bodies, like Metroline VWH2034 or RATP VH45126 They are officially called Wright Eclipse Gemini 3. I don't believe the Eclipse name is used anymore for double deckers?
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Post by COBO on Sept 2, 2020 11:48:36 GMT
They are officially called Wright Eclipse Gemini 3. I don't believe the Eclipse name is used anymore for double deckers? The Wright Gemini 3 then.
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Post by LK65EBO on Sept 2, 2020 12:18:12 GMT
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Post by galwhv69 on Sept 2, 2020 13:10:06 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Sept 2, 2020 13:11:39 GMT
So I wasn't imagining it - thanks for confirming
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Post by LJ17THF on Sept 2, 2020 15:24:43 GMT
Great idea ! Just a few corrections, Arriva have HT's (E400H MMC) coming soon and GAL have electric Optare Metrodecker's coming soon probably as OEe's (Metrodecker not fully confirmed).
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 2, 2020 16:24:18 GMT
So I wasn't imagining it - thanks for confirming Seems to be the name Eclipse was dropped as the VDL option was no longer existent. Traditionally I believe you had the Wright Eclipse Gemini (2) which was on the Volvo Chassis and the Wright Pulsar Gemini which was on the VDL chassis. Obviously with the Eclipse Gemini being the B7TL, The Pulsar Gemini being the DB250, the Eclipse Gemini 2 being a B9TL and the Pulsar Gemini 2 being a DB300. Obviously now the distinction between the Volvo is no longer needed as they are not referred to as Geminis when on another chassis, with the integral option being the Streetdeck. Out of interest does anyone know why VDL no longer provide a chassis?
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Post by LJ17THF on Sept 2, 2020 17:10:53 GMT
So I wasn't imagining it - thanks for confirming Seems to be the name Eclipse was dropped as the VDL option was no longer existent. Traditionally I believe you had the Wright Eclipse Gemini (2) which was on the Volvo Chassis and the Wright Pulsar Gemini which was on the VDL chassis. Obviously with the Eclipse Gemini being the B7TL, The Pulsar Gemini being the DB250, the Eclipse Gemini 2 being a B9TL and the Pulsar Gemini 2 being a DB300. Obviously now the distinction between the Volvo is no longer needed as they are not referred to as Geminis when on another chassis, with the integral option being the Streetdeck. Out of interest does anyone know why VDL no longer provide a chassis? Yep, you've explained it well , but just a slight correction, the 2nd generation DAF/VDL Gemini was known (publicly at least) as the Gemini 2, without the "Pulsar", while the Volvo one was known as the Eclipse Gemini 2. Very confusing, they seem to shake each generation up. Even I wondered why VDL stopped selling buses in the UK, I suppose it was because they were ending their RHD production, they didn't get many sales with the DB300, almost all of them were from Arriva, with a few from Go-Ahead and First London, and one with Kowloon Motor Bus on an MCV body. The single deck Pulsar was rather popular, but I suppose it wasn't getting the amount of sales that VDL expected. With no VDL, we got stuck with the Streetdeck OM934 , it really was a shame, the buses were amazing!
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 5, 2020 17:24:27 GMT
Seems to be the name Eclipse was dropped as the VDL option was no longer existent. Traditionally I believe you had the Wright Eclipse Gemini (2) which was on the Volvo Chassis and the Wright Pulsar Gemini which was on the VDL chassis. Obviously with the Eclipse Gemini being the B7TL, The Pulsar Gemini being the DB250, the Eclipse Gemini 2 being a B9TL and the Pulsar Gemini 2 being a DB300. Obviously now the distinction between the Volvo is no longer needed as they are not referred to as Geminis when on another chassis, with the integral option being the Streetdeck. Out of interest does anyone know why VDL no longer provide a chassis? Yep, you've explained it well , but just a slight correction, the 2nd generation DAF/VDL Gemini was known (publicly at least) as the Gemini 2, without the "Pulsar", while the Volvo one was known as the Eclipse Gemini 2. Very confusing, they seem to shake each generation up. Even I wondered why VDL stopped selling buses in the UK, I suppose it was because they were ending their RHD production, they didn't get many sales with the DB300, almost all of them were from Arriva, with a few from Go-Ahead and First London, and one with Kowloon Motor Bus on an MCV body. The single deck Pulsar was rather popular, but I suppose it wasn't getting the amount of sales that VDL expected. With no VDL, we got stuck with the Streetdeck OM934 , it really was a shame, the buses were amazing! Furthermore, the Volvo - WrightBus partnership is no longer in place, possible because WrightBus collapsed and is now under new ownership. So the most common double-deckers are now Enviro 400s and StreetDecks. For some reason London has seen no new Scania buses for quite some time. Maybe they do no hybrid yet alone electric buses.
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