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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 11:17:59 GMT
consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/strand-bus-stop-changes/Closes 5 Nov 2020 Opened 24 Sep 2020 Overview We need to re-route buses in the Strand and Aldwych area as a result of Westminster City Council, (WCC) plans for the area. You can see the plans for the area on their website. The following buses will be re-routed as follows; • N/1, 59, N/68, 168, 188, 243, 521 and X68 via Aldwych west arm towards Waterloo • N/26, 76, 172 and 341 via Aldwych east and west arms towards Waterloo • 6, N/9, N/87, N44 and N155 to stand at new stands on Aldwych, east side and Melbourne Place and run via Melbourne Place and Aldwych west arm • N/11, N/15, N21, N26, N89, N199, N550 and N551 via Aldwych east and west arms towards Trafalgar Square • N/91 via Kingsway and Strand via Aldwych western arm towards Trafalgar Square Routes 139, 176, and N343 would continue to run between Lancaster Place and Strand in both directions. Buses that previously stopped on The Strand would now stop at new location on Aldwych, where possible, bus routes going in the same direction (such as east to Fleet Street) will serve the same stop.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 24, 2020 12:21:12 GMT
No mention of the 172 that also currently stands with the 6, 9 and 87.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 24, 2020 13:34:21 GMT
consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/strand-bus-stop-changes/Closes 5 Nov 2020 Opened 24 Sep 2020 Overview We need to re-route buses in the Strand and Aldwych area as a result of Westminster City Council, (WCC) plans for the area. You can see the plans for the area on their website. The following buses will be re-routed as follows; • N/1, 59, N/68, 168, 188, 243, 521 and X68 via Aldwych west arm towards Waterloo • N/26, 76, 172 and 341 via Aldwych east and west arms towards Waterloo • 6, N/9, N/87, N44 and N155 to stand at new stands on Aldwych, east side and Melbourne Place and run via Melbourne Place and Aldwych west arm • N/11, N/15, N21, N26, N89, N199, N550 and N551 via Aldwych east and west arms towards Trafalgar Square • N/91 via Kingsway and Strand via Aldwych western arm towards Trafalgar Square Routes 139, 176, and N343 would continue to run between Lancaster Place and Strand in both directions. Buses that previously stopped on The Strand would now stop at new location on Aldwych, where possible, bus routes going in the same direction (such as east to Fleet Street) will serve the same stop. Another awful scheme - convenient how it's suddenly turned up during the Covid pandemic where currently, roads in Central London are quiet whilst many other projects was postponed. I wouldn't be surprised if the High Commission of Australia building decide to object |
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 24, 2020 14:19:22 GMT
Terrible scheme again. Surprised tfl didnt use it to their advantage aswell to remove a route ie the 6 cut to Cockspur Street.
Sending all the traffic around the north side will just add to every journey throu it
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Post by redexpress on Sept 24, 2020 22:05:44 GMT
consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/strand-bus-stop-changes/Closes 5 Nov 2020 Opened 24 Sep 2020 Overview We need to re-route buses in the Strand and Aldwych area as a result of Westminster City Council, (WCC) plans for the area. You can see the plans for the area on their website. The following buses will be re-routed as follows; • N/1, 59, N/68, 168, 188, 243, 521 and X68 via Aldwych west arm towards Waterloo • N/26, 76, 172 and 341 via Aldwych east and west arms towards Waterloo • 6, N/9, N/87, N44 and N155 to stand at new stands on Aldwych, east side and Melbourne Place and run via Melbourne Place and Aldwych west arm • N/11, N/15, N21, N26, N89, N199, N550 and N551 via Aldwych east and west arms towards Trafalgar Square • N/91 via Kingsway and Strand via Aldwych western arm towards Trafalgar Square Routes 139, 176, and N343 would continue to run between Lancaster Place and Strand in both directions. Buses that previously stopped on The Strand would now stop at new location on Aldwych, where possible, bus routes going in the same direction (such as east to Fleet Street) will serve the same stop. The text is slightly misleading about the N343, implying that it won't be rerouted. Buses towards New Cross Gate currently loop round the one-way system serving two stops. With these changes the N343 will have to be rerouted to turn directly into Lancaster Place (like the 139 and 176 do). Not a big deal but it should be mentioned. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 27, 2020 9:41:34 GMT
consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/strand-bus-stop-changes/Closes 5 Nov 2020 Opened 24 Sep 2020 Overview We need to re-route buses in the Strand and Aldwych area as a result of Westminster City Council, (WCC) plans for the area. You can see the plans for the area on their website. The following buses will be re-routed as follows; • N/1, 59, N/68, 168, 188, 243, 521 and X68 via Aldwych west arm towards Waterloo • N/26, 76, 172 and 341 via Aldwych east and west arms towards Waterloo • 6, N/9, N/87, N44 and N155 to stand at new stands on Aldwych, east side and Melbourne Place and run via Melbourne Place and Aldwych west arm • N/11, N/15, N21, N26, N89, N199, N550 and N551 via Aldwych east and west arms towards Trafalgar Square • N/91 via Kingsway and Strand via Aldwych western arm towards Trafalgar Square Routes 139, 176, and N343 would continue to run between Lancaster Place and Strand in both directions. Buses that previously stopped on The Strand would now stop at new location on Aldwych, where possible, bus routes going in the same direction (such as east to Fleet Street) will serve the same stop. The text is slightly misleading about the N343, implying that it won't be rerouted. Buses towards New Cross Gate currently loop round the one-way system serving two stops. With these changes the N343 will have to be rerouted to turn directly into Lancaster Place (like the 139 and 176 do). Not a big deal but it should be mentioned. N343 routeing is quite an anomaly then. At least it creates consistency in relation to buses from Charing Cross to Elephant. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 27, 2020 9:45:06 GMT
No mention of the 172 that also currently stands with the 6, 9 and 87. Aldwych was always a weird place for it to terminate. Better than nothing in that it still goes over Waterloo Bridge but a waste of capacity over the bridge as it stops short of a meaningful traffic objective. Ideally would be extended to Trafalgar Square or Holborn or even beyond. However I would worry this will just be an excuse to cut it back to Waterloo or Elephant. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 11, 2020 12:10:13 GMT
No mention of the 172 that also currently stands with the 6, 9 and 87. Aldwych was always a weird place for it to terminate. Better than nothing in that it still goes over Waterloo Bridge but a waste of capacity over the bridge as it stops short of a meaningful traffic objective. Ideally would be extended to Trafalgar Square or Holborn or even beyond. However I would worry this will just be an excuse to cut it back to Waterloo or Elephant. Having looked at the consultation information the 172 will still serve the eastern arm of Aldwych but won’t stop at the same stop as the 26, 76 and 341 towards Waterloo. The first common stop for those routes will be on the western arm of Aldwych. I have suggested the 172 be extended to Holborn where there is terminal space where the 171 used to stand. That would make better use of the capacity provided by the 172 over Waterloo Bridge and help social distancing. |
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Post by snowman on Aug 21, 2021 6:13:42 GMT
TfL have published the consultation results 19th August 2021 Results updated 19 Aug 2021 We are now able to publish the consultation report and our response to the key issues raised around the bus stop locations, the report can be found below. Strand and Aldwych bus changes consultation report (PDF 525KB) We are aware that the new location of bus stops will impact on some passenger journeys and we have mitigated these where possible. There will also be people who benefit from shorter walks to bus stops as a result of the changes. The works on the Strand and in the surrounding areas are well underway. We are reacting to the changes by re-routing and changing bus stop locations. Dates for these changes are dependent on the wider works taking place. We will monitor the impact of the changes on passenger journeys and keep under review bus stop locations and buses serving the stops. If you have any questions about the consultation please contact us at: consultations@tfl.gov.uk. consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/strand-bus-stop-changes/user_uploads/strand-aldwych-bus-changes-consultation-report.pdfJust 2 days later, today, they are making changes to following Aldwych changes - 21 August 2021 Routes Affected: 1, 6, 9, 11, 15, 26, 59, 68, 76, 87, 91, 168, 172, 188, 243, 341, 521, N1, N9, N11, N15, N21, N44, N68, N87, N89, N91, N155, N171, N199, N343, N550, N551 and X68. As part of Westminster City Council's Strand Aldwych project, the borough will be closing Strand to all vehicles between Australia House and Waterloo Bridge. All buses travelling eastbound towards Trafalgar Square or southbound towards Waterloo will be rerouted by the eastern and western arms of Aldwych which will be made two-way for all vehicles. New bus stops will be in place with stopping arrangements for each bus route listed further down the page. Visit strandaldwych.org/ for more details on Westminster City Council's project. Routes 1, 59, 68, 168, 188, 243, 521, N1, N68, N171 and X68 heading southbound towards Waterloo and beyond will be rerouted from Kingsway via the new two-way western arm of Aldwych to Waterloo Bridge. These routes will no longer serve the current bus stops K and S and will instead serve a brand-new bus stop, S, located close to the pedestrian entrance to India Place. Routes 6, 9, 87, N9, N44, N87 and N155 heading westbound towards Trafalgar Square will be rerouted via the new two-way eastern and western arms of Aldwych. These routes will no longer serve the current bus stop R and will instead serve a brand-new bus stop, H, located outside Bush House. Routes 11, 15, N11, N15, N21, N89, N199, N550 and N551 heading westbound towards Trafalgar Square will be rerouted via the new two-way eastern and western arms of Aldwych. These routes will no longer serve the current bus stop R and will instead serve brand new stops G, located outside Australia House, and R, which will be located outside The High Commission of India. Routes 26, 76 and 341 heading southbound towards Waterloo will be rerouted via the new two-way eastern and western arms of Aldwych. These routes will no longer serve the current bus stop. S, and will instead serve brand new stops G, located outside Australia House, and S, which will be located close to the pedestrian entrance to India Place. Routes 91 and N91 heading westbound towards Trafalgar Square will be rerouted from Kingsway via the new two-way western arm of Aldwych to Strand. These routes will no longer serve the current bus stops K and S and will instead serve a brand-new bus stop R, which will be located outside The High Commission of India. Route 172 heading southbound towards Waterloo will be rerouted via the new two-way eastern and western arms of Aldwych. This route will no longer serve the current bus stop S and will instead serve brand new stop S, which will be located close to the pedestrian entrance to India Place. Route N343 towards New Cross Gate will be rerouted from Strand direct into Waterloo Bridge and will no longer serve the Aldwych gyratory. Route N343 will no longer serve bus stops K and S and will instead serve bus stop B which is located on Lancaster Place. |
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Post by rugbyref on Aug 22, 2021 8:38:06 GMT
On page 11 they are rerouting the RV1!
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Post by Busboy105 on Aug 22, 2021 11:43:56 GMT
On page 11 they are rerouting the RV1! That's crazy considering it doesn't exist anymore |
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Post by greenboy on Aug 23, 2021 6:43:42 GMT
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 26, 2021 16:53:11 GMT
I rode around Aldwych today and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised that the new layout actully works pretty well, dare I even say it is posisbly better for the Kingsway routes southbound to save a minute or two compared with going right the way round like before.
Using the loop involving Melbourne Place to stand the 6/9/87 is very good. Melbourne place is probably just big enough for the three routes. Not sure where the 172 stands though?
Also stops on Aldwych are split between towards Waterloo and towards Trafalgar Square giving a goos spacing of passengers and not massive ques of buses trying to pull in and block the road.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 26, 2021 17:44:48 GMT
I rode around Aldwych today and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised that the new layout actully works pretty well, dare I even say it is posisbly better for the Kingsway routes southbound to save a minute or two compared with going right the way round like before. Using the loop involving Melbourne Place to stand the 6/9/87 is very good. Melbourne place is probably just big enough for the three routes. Not sure where the 172 stands though? Also stops on Aldwych are split between towards Waterloo and towards Trafalgar Square giving a goos spacing of passengers and not massive ques of buses trying to pull in and block the road. I agree, all seems to work very well and a big improvement all round. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 27, 2021 8:51:15 GMT
Ofcourse I have only sampled it on a Sunday so can't say whats its like on a week day. Has anybody on here seen it then and does it work well?
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