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Post by Green Kitten on Nov 15, 2020 15:21:37 GMT
S4 seemed to go everywhere and nowhere at the same time, so I nominate that.
349 seems pretty chill, just a straight line.
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Post by thekbq14 on Nov 15, 2020 18:59:07 GMT
S4 seemed to go everywhere and nowhere at the same time, so I nominate that. 349 seems pretty chill, just a straight line. Except for the turn at Southbury Road to the garage but yeah does seem like a chill straightforward route and not busy at that, I'd probably even say 149 is easier as it's more of a straight line, except for the fact it reaches the City of London. Routes like 109, 25, 205, 5, 68, 115, 9, 16, 32 etc. Off the top of my head I'd probably say are that level off busy routes but straightforward to drive not many turns. S4 is a yeah a very long route probably could Wallington to Belmont at a push but after that would get lost really and that's only because I know people on that line of route.
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Post by Busboy105 on Nov 16, 2020 14:07:51 GMT
W4 must be difficult. All them tight roads in Tottenham.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on May 1, 2021 8:00:55 GMT
What do you think is the hardest or easiest route to learn? I think one of the hardest has to be the H28. I think one of the easiest has to be the 116. "What's the hardest one that isn't a letter prefix route?" would be a better question because most letter prefixed routes are quite circuitous. 42 92 110 251 350 371 381 419 533 969
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 1, 2021 8:26:56 GMT
Passenger wise from my experience 100% the 109
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Post by bottomless on May 2, 2021 12:46:06 GMT
Having just learnt it I would have to nominate the S3 as a hard route to learn, not made easier by the fact that I had to follow a service bus in a car. Lost bus 4 times at lights and busy junctions but managed to guess right each time and catch up. My colleague gave up confused before we got to Sutton from Malden Manor. The journey took an hour and a quarter, but going back my way took just 15 minutes as heading to New Malden to try and teach colleague the K1. And I thought the K5 was hard!
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 17:36:59 GMT
The easiest are the ones that travel predominantly on one road, such as the 113 (A41), 32 (A5), 112 (A406), H91 (A4/A315). Other easy ones include the 168 which is almost a straight line between E&C and Hampstead Heath, 94 is almost straight between Oxford Circus and Acton Green
Hardest ones are the single deckers that take the backstreets and those with Hail and Ride, such as H2, H3, H26. Hard non letter prefix ones include the 303, 206, 384
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Post by ronnie on May 2, 2021 18:58:00 GMT
The easiest are the ones that travel predominantly on one road, such as the 113 (A41), 32 (A5), 112 (A406), H91 (A4/A315). Other easy ones include the 168 which is almost a straight line between E&C and Hampstead Heath, 94 is almost straight between Oxford Circus and Acton Green Hardest ones are the single deckers that take the backstreets and those with Hail and Ride, such as H2, H3, H26. Hard non letter prefix ones include the 303, 206, 384 I would add the 300, 325 and 376; impossible to follow frankly. I would also mention the DDs which go down very narrow roads. The 147 is a notoriously difficult one and hats off to the drivers on the route
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Post by elcesteem16 on May 3, 2021 19:41:45 GMT
I’m nor sure if the R3 would be a good example of a hard route? Then again I guess it averages in the middle of hard and easy. I only say that considering it’s indirectness from Orpington Station to PRU Hospital.
Another route that could be classed as hard I guess would be the 336. Not in the way of its directions but more or less along the H&R sections. Before the route had a diversion to its routing via Shroffold Road, you used to get 2 buses that would meet eachother as they throttle down churchdown road (a very very narrow residential street) and carefully squeeze past each other half on pavement. This looked a lot easier when the esteems operated the route as they were really narrow in build due to MBs requested specifications, but as soon as the the MMCs came you had no end of full pavement mounting and even after the reroute you still get this around the lines of Rangefield or even the H&R between Southend Lane and Canadian Avenue.
I assume this must be very challenging for the 336 drivers and at times quite annoying having to find a space to Mount.
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Post by aaron1 on May 4, 2021 8:02:58 GMT
I have to see that most easiest route is the N16 that most of it in a straight line only a few turns
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Post by Busboy105 on May 4, 2021 12:59:31 GMT
I have to see that most easiest route is the N16 that most of it in a straight line only a few turns Add the 16,32, and the 116 to that list
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Post by evergreenadam on May 4, 2021 21:27:06 GMT
9, 94 and H91 are pretty easy.
440 bus has ended up in my cul de sac in Chiswick on several occasions in as the route is not intuitive. Reversing back out onto a main road was not fun for the drivers concerned.
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Post by bn12cny on May 6, 2021 10:59:28 GMT
Easiest routes most be 209 and 378, around 10 minutes running time, straight enough roads now loading must be very very light, good passengers and no stress!
Another easy route 485, when I drove many years ago route 424 was a hard route to learn and also the passengers are fine but my god the old ladies would always complain if you are late which you often was due to traffic, indirectness and also because the bus route is an unofficial mobility bus loading and unloading passengers can take its time, however a good route to drive - very indirect though.
Another hard route to learn was the N22 when it went from Piccadilly to Kingston, follow day 22 to Putney Common then head via Barnes, Mortlake, Chalkers Corner, Richmond, Twickenham, Fulwell, Teddington and Kingston with 1 hr running time and some duties less than 10 minutes stand time, it was pedal to the metal but a good route!
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Post by BK15AZR on May 6, 2021 11:39:54 GMT
The easiest are the ones that travel predominantly on one road, such as the 113 (A41), 32 (A5), 112 (A406), H91 (A4/A315). Other easy ones include the 168 which is almost a straight line between E&C and Hampstead Heath, 94 is almost straight between Oxford Circus and Acton Green Hardest ones are the single deckers that take the backstreets and those with Hail and Ride, such as H2, H3, H26. Hard non letter prefix ones include the 303, 206, 384 I would add the 300, 325 and 376; impossible to follow frankly. I would also mention the DDs which go down very narrow roads. The 147 is a notoriously difficult one and hats off to the drivers on the route The 147 reminds me of some bus routes in Coventry, making numerous turns into small residential streets in neighbourhoods. On the easiest routes, think the D7 should be on the list - it's basically all along A1205 and A1206. Whilst the 394 may also be a tricky one...you need to be familiar with Hackney in order to make sense of the route, while there are also some tight turns!
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Post by greenboy on May 7, 2021 14:22:42 GMT
Easiest routes most be 209 and 378, around 10 minutes running time, straight enough roads now loading must be very very light, good passengers and no stress! Another easy route 485, when I drove many years ago route 424 was a hard route to learn and also the passengers are fine but my god the old ladies would always complain if you are late which you often was due to traffic, indirectness and also because the bus route is an unofficial mobility bus loading and unloading passengers can take its time, however a good route to drive - very indirect though. Another hard route to learn was the N22 when it went from Piccadilly to Kingston, follow day 22 to Putney Common then head via Barnes, Mortlake, Chalkers Corner, Richmond, Twickenham, Fulwell, Teddington and Kingston with 1 hr running time and some duties less than 10 minutes stand time, it was pedal to the metal but a good route! Yes I can imagine the 424 being a nice little route to do, many regulars seem to be on first name terms with drivers, but a nightmare to learn.
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