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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 18:27:41 GMT
69,241 and 330 all used to see single decker workings in the early 2000s.
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Post by John tuthill on Nov 30, 2020 19:16:01 GMT
I have photos taken in October 2004 of Dennis Darts on routes 63 and 363. I have photos taken in May 2000 and June 2002 of Dennis Darts on route N11.
There were a scattering of single decks on 65 during first lockdown Like this?(From Ian Armstrongs web page) Attachment Deleted |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 30, 2020 19:19:59 GMT
69,241 and 330 all used to see single decker workings in the early 2000s. Also remember them doing the 238 every now and again too. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 20:04:32 GMT
69,241 and 330 all used to see single decker workings in the early 2000s. Also remember them doing the 238 every now and again too. Lets not even going there - back in the early 00s the 104 and 238 both converted fully to low floor darts for a few years! Dare I even mention the 257 (Must have been the worse choice ever).
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 30, 2020 20:11:50 GMT
Also remember them doing the 238 every now and again too. Lets not even going there - back in the early 00s the 104 and 238 both converted fully to low floor darts for a few years! Dare I even mention the 257 (Must have been the worse choice ever).
There seems to have been a trend there where routes got a considerable boost in frequency but then got a single decker conversion instead. Needless to say that the double deckers should have been kept on those routes as it just led to huge amounts of untapped demand. The 238 and 104 are still especially bad, I really think a third route is needed down Portway. |
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Post by redexpress on Nov 30, 2020 20:31:54 GMT
I have photos taken in May 2000 and June 2002 of Dennis Darts on route N11.
N11 was officially Dart-operated (using DPs off the 49) between April 2000 and March 2001. It reverted to double-deck when it was diverted to Wembley; any Dart appearances after that were unscheduled.
I think it was around 2004 TFL clamped down on non low floor workings on low floor routes hence SD substitutions as I remember some on the 213 and atleast once on the 154. Eventually PVLs became spare and topped up the allocation at A as I think the 93 had increased its freq.
I think the 213 had a scheduled LDP working to cover additional school journeys - at the time there were no spare low-floor DDs in the fleet, and as you say, TfL had banned step-entrance buses so the only option was to use a Dart.
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 30, 2020 20:41:59 GMT
There was probably a batch of NVs making appearances till 2004 on the Sutton routes and 63/363 which ultimately were not allowed after tfl wanted all low floor on low floor routes.
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Post by aaron1 on Nov 30, 2020 21:12:33 GMT
I remember seeing SD on 142 a few times
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Post by vjaska on Nov 30, 2020 23:24:03 GMT
There was probably a batch of NVs making appearances till 2004 on the Sutton routes and 63/363 which ultimately were not allowed after tfl wanted all low floor on low floor routes. Go-Ahead did have a double decker shortage at certain garages around that time as Q was short and had WVL's loaned in along with LDP's appearing fairly regularly on the 45 for a period. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 30, 2020 23:34:05 GMT
69,241 and 330 all used to see single decker workings in the early 2000s. The 69 was not that often, It probably only just made double figures. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 30, 2020 23:37:38 GMT
The 55 used to have single deckers back in the 80's at times.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 30, 2020 23:58:41 GMT
The Sunday 118 and 249 used to have scheduled single deck workings, the 118 also single deck in the evenings. The 157 and 196 had isolated Dart workings from the G1 allocation during Connex's shortage of servicable Tridents.
Stockwell's R reg. LDPs¹ used on the 345 had full blinds for the 196 but were never used whilst Merton had at least one LDP working on the 280 that was noted in the LOTS TLB of the time.
¹ - LDP45-49/51
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Post by vjaska on Dec 1, 2020 1:22:49 GMT
The Sunday 118 and 249 used to have scheduled single deck workings, the 118 also single deck in the evenings. The 157 and 196 had isolated Dart workings from the G1 allocation during Connex's shortage of servicable Tridents. Stockwell's R reg. LDPs¹ used on the 345 had full blinds for the 196 but were never used whilst Merton had at least one LDP working on the 280 that was noted in the LOTS TLB of the time. ¹ - LDP45-49/51 At least one LDP also had blinds for the 37 though I'm not sure if any were used on the route. I also remember seeing a G1 MPD on the 196 as well  |
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Post by M1104 on Dec 1, 2020 2:13:00 GMT
The Sunday 118 and 249 used to have scheduled single deck workings, the 118 also single deck in the evenings. The 157 and 196 had isolated Dart workings from the G1 allocation during Connex's shortage of servicable Tridents. Stockwell's R reg. LDPs¹ used on the 345 had full blinds for the 196 but were never used whilst Merton had at least one LDP working on the 280 that was noted in the LOTS TLB of the time. ¹ - LDP45-49/51 At least one LDP also had blinds for the 37 though I'm not sure if any were used on the route. I also remember seeing a G1 MPD on the 196 as well They were indeed used on the 37 as i saw one on that route plus the 63. I sadly was never in the right place to catch the Connex rarities. |
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Post by 6HP502C on Dec 1, 2020 2:49:24 GMT
At least one LDP also had blinds for the 37 though I'm not sure if any were used on the route. I also remember seeing a G1 MPD on the 196 as well They were indeed used on the 37 as i saw one on that route plus the 63. I sadly was never in the right place to catch the Connex rarities. When rummaging through the Walworth blind store earlier this year there was a job lot of blinds from the W and Y plate DAs which had the 3 and N3 on them - not sure if they ever ran on those routes though. The ELS class appeared on the 185 on occasion as did the SPDs on the 208. |
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