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Post by Dillon95 on Dec 4, 2020 15:27:25 GMT
I was on the 233 in Swanley and the driver forgot to turn right into Sycamore Drive going up Northview. He just reversed back down.
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Post by Madstuntman on Dec 7, 2020 11:14:01 GMT
Can someone point me in the direction of the legislation that says it’s illegal to reverse a bus with passengers on?
It’s a thing that lazy bus drivers use as an excuse.
Individual companies may have a policy but I’m curious to see the legislation that says it’s illegal. Especial as I’ve driven non tfl routes that a reverse to turn around is part of the route.
If you need to turn a bus around then you are a professional driver that has passed a test that includes reversing. There are so many incompetent bus drivers on the road. If you can’t handle your vehicle then go and drive a van.
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Post by greenboy on Dec 7, 2020 11:20:28 GMT
Can someone point me in the direction of the legislation that says it’s illegal to reverse a bus with passengers on? It’s a thing that lazy bus drivers use as an excuse. Individual companies may have a policy but I’m curious to see the legislation that says it’s illegal. Especial as I’ve driven non tfl routes that a reverse to turn around is part of the route. If you need to turn a bus around then you are a professional driver that has passed a test that includes reversing. There are so many incompetent bus drivers on the road. If you can’t handle your vehicle then go and drive a van. It's just a myth, I think it stemmed from London Transport days when buses that had scheduled reversing manoeuvres had to be crew operated because of a union agreement, a peak hour extension on the 174 comes to mind.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 7, 2020 11:30:49 GMT
Can someone point me in the direction of the legislation that says it’s illegal to reverse a bus with passengers on? It’s a thing that lazy bus drivers use as an excuse. Individual companies may have a policy but I’m curious to see the legislation that says it’s illegal. Especial as I’ve driven non tfl routes that a reverse to turn around is part of the route. If you need to turn a bus around then you are a professional driver that has passed a test that includes reversing. There are so many incompetent bus drivers on the road. If you can’t handle your vehicle then go and drive a van. Don't many buses actually do this outside of London? Or even in London at Cromwell Road Bus Station.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 7, 2020 12:29:55 GMT
Can someone point me in the direction of the legislation that says it’s illegal to reverse a bus with passengers on? It’s a thing that lazy bus drivers use as an excuse. Individual companies may have a policy but I’m curious to see the legislation that says it’s illegal. Especial as I’ve driven non tfl routes that a reverse to turn around is part of the route. If you need to turn a bus around then you are a professional driver that has passed a test that includes reversing. There are so many incompetent bus drivers on the road. If you can’t handle your vehicle then go and drive a van. Don't many buses actually do this outside of London? Or even in London at Cromwell Road Bus Station. Yeah, many bus stations outside London are built like Cromwell Road Bus Station where buses reverse out when leaving their stop or stand. Some routes actually have a section where reversing must occur mid route such as the time I used the Citi7 which had a reversing section near Duxford. Just to prove your point Madstuntman the G1 in London also performs a reversing movement with passengers on board to access its Battersea stand.
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Post by M1104 on Dec 7, 2020 12:36:04 GMT
Can someone point me in the direction of the legislation that says it’s illegal to reverse a bus with passengers on? It’s a thing that lazy bus drivers use as an excuse. Individual companies may have a policy but I’m curious to see the legislation that says it’s illegal. Especial as I’ve driven non tfl routes that a reverse to turn around is part of the route. If you need to turn a bus around then you are a professional driver that has passed a test that includes reversing. There are so many incompetent bus drivers on the road. If you can’t handle your vehicle then go and drive a van. It's just a myth, I think it stemmed from London Transport days when buses that had scheduled reversing manoeuvres had to be crew operated because of a union agreement, a peak hour extension on the 174 comes to mind. Do you know roughly when the reversing rule came about? I'm thinking perhaps the early seventies when routes started converting to OPO (or OMO¹ in old money) with the introduction of the DMS. 1 - One Man Operation (prior to more women drivers)
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Post by mkay315 on Dec 13, 2020 12:56:14 GMT
In an ideal world it would be easier for the drivers who make a mistake to do a thing by themselves without calling it in. The problem with that is just incase there was a main official on their bus at the time this happened and they didn't call it in then they could get penalised for not being honest.
As a driver safety is paramount and given the fact that a bus driver is an operational role the room for error is very small. It's almost as if you're not allowed to make any mistakes whatsoever.
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Post by greenboy on Dec 13, 2020 15:05:53 GMT
In an ideal world it would be easier for the drivers who make a mistake to do a thing by themselves without calling it in. The problem with that is just incase there was a main official on their bus at the time this happened and they didn't call it in then they could get penalised for not being honest. As a driver safety is paramount and given the fact that a bus driver is an operational role the room for error is very small. It's almost as if you're not allowed to make any mistakes whatsoever. It depends on the situation, if for example there is a roundabout to turn around the driver can do so without further ado but if the driver is unsure it's better to call in for instructions rather than make the situation worse. It's quite common for mistakes to be made on rail replacement bus services, most can be rectified without calling anyone.
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Post by mkay315 on Dec 13, 2020 16:37:38 GMT
In an ideal world it would be easier for the drivers who make a mistake to do a thing by themselves without calling it in. The problem with that is just incase there was a main official on their bus at the time this happened and they didn't call it in then they could get penalised for not being honest. As a driver safety is paramount and given the fact that a bus driver is an operational role the room for error is very small. It's almost as if you're not allowed to make any mistakes whatsoever. It depends on the situation, if for example there is a roundabout to turn around the driver can do so without further ado but if the driver is unsure it's better to call in for instructions rather than make the situation worse. It's quite common for mistakes to be made on rail replacement bus services, most can be rectified without calling anyone. Every move a driver does is watched by management so chances are they probably know what's going on its up to the individual if they want to be honest or not. There are instances where a company representative can sit on the bus that a said driver could be driving and they may make a mistake and if they don't correct themselves and report it in that representative could easily go and report the situation within the company and then the proof could come back to haunt the driver.
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Post by beaver14uk on Dec 20, 2020 18:36:02 GMT
I thought it came in via Thomas St 178 doesn't go that way does it? uote author=" DT 11" source="/post/606583/thread" timestamp="1606764866"]Interesting subject. Funny enough I saw a 291 heading to QEH turn into Polytechnic Street today, driver must have thought they were doing the 178. Some wrong turns are easy to correct. A few times I’ve made a wrong turn or almost made a wrong turn. I was doing a 229 once heading to QMH just leaving Erith. I turned right into Fraser Road and someone shouted ldriver this is 229” and stopped the bus, I even realised I made the wrong turn before anyone said anything, so I put out an announcement saying sorry I made a mistake and I do the 99 sometimes I’m gonna turn the bus around at the next roundabout and put the bus right. To the Bus stand it does yes[/quote]
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