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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2021 14:42:04 GMT
A colleague from City Planning created a bus map of London ranked by both frequency and efficiency... May be of interest to some of you  P.S. Apologies for the blurriness, couldn't figure out how to enlarge the image properly! Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted) |
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Post by ronnie on Jan 29, 2021 14:46:33 GMT
A colleague from City Planning created a bus map of London ranked by both frequency and efficiency... May be of interest to some of you P.S. Apologies for the blurriness, couldn't figure out how to enlarge the image properly! View AttachmentView Attachment) How do you define efficiency I am struggling with the 25 tbh. Is it not high frequency? |
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Post by danorak on Jan 29, 2021 14:57:57 GMT
Without defining terms (especially what we mean by efficiency) it's difficult to comment on what this shows. What does leap out at me is how South East London looks different to the rest of the capital: if I'm reading it correctly, it has high 'efficiency' but not the high frequencies of elsewhere. What that means, I'm not sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2021 14:58:31 GMT
A colleague from City Planning created a bus map of London ranked by both frequency and efficiency... May be of interest to some of you P.S. Apologies for the blurriness, couldn't figure out how to enlarge the image properly! View AttachmentView Attachment) How do you define efficiency I am struggling with the 25 tbh. Is it not high frequency? From what I can see the 25 is labelled as high frequency. Efficiency is between the two endpoints, so refers to how straight it is (measured as the crow-flies against the actual distance). |
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Post by ronnie on Jan 29, 2021 17:42:13 GMT
How do you define efficiency I am struggling with the 25 tbh. Is it not high frequency? From what I can see the 25 is labelled as high frequency. Efficiency is between the two endpoints, so refers to how straight it is (measured as the crow-flies against the actual distance). Well the 25 is as straight as the 86/5 so not sure how this works |
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Post by bus12451 on Jan 29, 2021 18:26:53 GMT
Other than the 36 and 453 which barely enter SE, South East London doesn't appear to have a single "high efficiency, high frequency" route. Why is it that routes such as the 140 are considered "high efficiency, high frequency", but routes such as the 53 and 96 are not?
Also, at what point is a route considered to be "high frequency"? Because according to the map, the only high frequency routes in London are ones with thicker lines, which can't be right.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 29, 2021 18:52:48 GMT
How do you define efficiency I am struggling with the 25 tbh. Is it not high frequency? From what I can see the 25 is labelled as high frequency. Efficiency is between the two endpoints, so refers to how straight it is (measured as the crow-flies against the actual distance). The 25 seems to be labelled as medium frequency on the map. I wonder if the case here is that the frequencies are defined as anything high being 6min or more as high frequency. Which would obviously involve the 5 and 86 but just make the 25 miss out. I find it interesting how the EL1 seems to be split into two, a high frequency and low efficiency section alongside the high frequency medium efficiency section. I wonder if that route could really do with Barking-Ilford shorts. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 29, 2021 19:06:39 GMT
Other than the 36 and 453 which barely enter SE, South East London doesn't appear to have a single "high efficiency, high frequency" route. Why is it that routes such as the 140 are considered "high efficiency, high frequency", but routes such as the 53 and 96 are not? Also, at what point is a route considered to be "high frequency"? Because according to the map, the only high frequency routes in London are ones with thicker lines, which can't be right. From what I understand, high frequency seems to be routes that are hyper frequent, it doesn't use the standard High Frequency and Low Frequency differentiation TfL use for the public. Routes such as the 5, 86, EL1, 140, the 207 corridor, the 55 are all really frequent. While other routes that aren't as frequent such as the 25 at every 8 minutes don't fall into the highest frequency bracket. |
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Post by bus12451 on Jan 29, 2021 19:21:29 GMT
Other than the 36 and 453 which barely enter SE, South East London doesn't appear to have a single "high efficiency, high frequency" route. Why is it that routes such as the 140 are considered "high efficiency, high frequency", but routes such as the 53 and 96 are not? Also, at what point is a route considered to be "high frequency"? Because according to the map, the only high frequency routes in London are ones with thicker lines, which can't be right. From what I understand, high frequency seems to be routes that are hyper frequent, it doesn't use the standard High Frequency and Low Frequency differentiation TfL use for the public. Routes such as the 5, 86, EL1, 140, the 207 corridor, the 55 are all really frequent. While other routes that aren't as frequent such as the 25 at every 8 minutes don't fall into the highest frequency bracket. Yes I think you could be right about that, though it looks like some bus routes have been missed out, the 8 and 21 don't seem to be shown as being high frequency. |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 30, 2021 0:09:45 GMT
From what I understand, high frequency seems to be routes that are hyper frequent, it doesn't use the standard High Frequency and Low Frequency differentiation TfL use for the public. Routes such as the 5, 86, EL1, 140, the 207 corridor, the 55 are all really frequent. While other routes that aren't as frequent such as the 25 at every 8 minutes don't fall into the highest frequency bracket. Yes I think you could be right about that, though it looks like some bus routes have been missed out, the 8 and 21 don't seem to be shown as being high frequency. The 8's corridor on the map is high frequency, it has the medium efficiency, high frequency line |
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