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Post by wirewiper on Nov 14, 2022 17:11:36 GMT
The article states "Railways across the country have been disrupted over the last five months by industrial action." Not to mention that we are on our third Transport Secretary this year. I know it's a revolving-door post at the best of times but this is ridiculous. Still, good at least that the London Assembly is picking up the baton and seeing what can be done to secure rail improvements for the Capital. |
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 14, 2022 23:11:31 GMT
The article states "Railways across the country have been disrupted over the last five months by industrial action." Not to mention that we are on our third Transport Secretary this year. I know it's a revolving-door post at the best of times but this is ridiculous. Still, good at least that the London Assembly is picking up the baton and seeing what can be done to secure rail improvements for the Capital. It's a Talking Shop... nothing may happen after Black Thursday, er I mean the Budget which will see more cuts to just about everything. They are looking to even pull the plug on HS2 (it was pointless anyway as it only reduces travel to Birmingham by 15 minutes or so from what we already have). Granted Truss' government didn't have a clue, so not surprised Anne Marie Trevelyan did nothing or tried to pause GBR (silly name, it should just be British Railways, there's nothing "Great" about it  ) Many may see such a move as London-centric and complain nothing is happening further North, as we have just got The Elizabeth Line and infrastructure is generally OK. Sadiq Khan, who struggles to deal with youth crime won't suddenly be the saviour of Railways in London. He can't even bother to update destination blinds on buses in London where we have such an array from working hard, to hardly working... from LED on RATP's BCE's, to blank and broken blinds on Arriva's elderly 318s... plus Day-Glo blinds on the W3, 29 and 144... I can't many making the trip to Immoral Castle to listen to hot air on a Tuesday morning  |
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 20, 2024 18:13:11 GMT
The Government has finally published its draft rail reform bill - but it is unlikely to pass into law before the next election. The draft bill theoretically paves the way for a Great British Railways, overseeing both infrastructure and train services. However, although it can go before MPs for scrutiny it is unlikely to be proposed for legislation before the current Parliament is dissolved. Labour has not confirmed how it will reform the railways under a future Government, but may retain some aspects of the bill, including the integrated body, and may bring train operating contracts back into public ownership as they expire. Rail Industry figures have generally welcomed the draft bill, as it will help to identify areas of consensus and disagreement between the political parties. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/20/governments-draft-rail-reform-bill-published-fittingly-late-labour-says |
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 21, 2024 16:51:44 GMT
The Government has finally published its draft rail reform bill - but it is unlikely to pass into law before the next election. The draft bill theoretically paves the way for a Great British Railways, overseeing both infrastructure and train services. However, although it can go before MPs for scrutiny it is unlikely to be proposed for legislation before the current Parliament is dissolved. Labour has not confirmed how it will reform the railways under a future Government, but may retain some aspects of the bill, including the integrated body, and may bring train operating contracts back into public ownership as they expire. Rail Industry figures have generally welcomed the draft bill, as it will help to identify areas of consensus and disagreement between the political parties. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/20/governments-draft-rail-reform-bill-published-fittingly-late-labour-saysMore on the draft Rail Reform Bill. The proposal is for an Integrated Rail Body (IRB), which would be both a franchising authority and infrastructure manager. It The Government intends that the current Network Rail Infrastructure Ltd. would be designated as the IRB. The IRB would be registered as a company independent of the State; its employees would be neither civil servants nor Crown employees. www.gov.uk/government/publications/draft-rail-reform-bill |
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Post by YY13VKP on Feb 21, 2024 18:19:15 GMT
The Government has finally published its draft rail reform bill - but it is unlikely to pass into law before the next election. The draft bill theoretically paves the way for a Great British Railways, overseeing both infrastructure and train services. However, although it can go before MPs for scrutiny it is unlikely to be proposed for legislation before the current Parliament is dissolved. Labour has not confirmed how it will reform the railways under a future Government, but may retain some aspects of the bill, including the integrated body, and may bring train operating contracts back into public ownership as they expire. Rail Industry figures have generally welcomed the draft bill, as it will help to identify areas of consensus and disagreement between the political parties. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/20/governments-draft-rail-reform-bill-published-fittingly-late-labour-saysMore on the draft Rail Reform Bill. The proposal is for an Integrated Rail Body (IRB), which would be both a franchising authority and infrastructure manager. It The Government intends that the current Network Rail Infrastructure Ltd. would be designated as the IRB. The IRB would be registered as a company independent of the State; its employees would be neither civil servants nor Crown employees. www.gov.uk/government/publications/draft-rail-reform-billYour last sentence fills me with relief! |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 9, 2024 22:34:01 GMT
Watch this space on rail devolution, says KhanCommuter rail services in the capital currently managed by private companies could come under Transport for London's (TfL) control, Sadiq Khan has said.www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crglj0zedwgo
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Post by joefrombow on Jul 10, 2024 8:41:17 GMT
Watch this space on rail devolution, says KhanCommuter rail services in the capital currently managed by private companies could come under Transport for London's (TfL) control, Sadiq Khan has said.www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crglj0zedwgo I suppose taking on the "Suburban" services under a new sub brand " South East London Lines" wouldn't be a bad thing but most of the other lines that come in London on the main lines aren't to bad to be fair , don't really hear people complaint about the other lines . |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 10, 2024 10:02:21 GMT
Watch this space on rail devolution, says KhanCommuter rail services in the capital currently managed by private companies could come under Transport for London's (TfL) control, Sadiq Khan has said.www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crglj0zedwgo I suppose taking on the "Suburban" services under a new sub brand " South East London Lines" wouldn't be a bad thing but most of the other lines that come in London on the main lines aren't to bad to be fair , don't really hear people complaint about the other lines . It would be interesting to see how TfL adapt suburban lines that don’t terminate within London although I suppose the Elizabeth Line has given them more of an idea over how it can be done. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Jul 10, 2024 13:16:09 GMT
It would be ironic seeing all railways renationalised barring those in devolved regions which are still operated out-of-house via franchising -- unless TfL also takes them in-house!
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 10, 2024 15:07:35 GMT
It would be ironic seeing all railways renationalised barring those in devolved regions which are still operated out-of-house via franchising -- unless TfL also takes them in-house! Yes I would expect London and the devolved regions to bring any franchised operations in-house, probably when the franchises come up for renewal. The devolved regions will have more control over service levels, fares and ticketing in their areas but will still need to work with Great British Railways. |
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Post by buspete on Jul 10, 2024 15:36:57 GMT
It's a matter of when, now that Southeastern comes under the TFL brand, what Khan said is a major clue and appointing Peter Hendy is another major clue. So I would think the routes to come under TFL would be.
London Cannon Street - Woolwich Arsenal/Bexleyheath Circular.
London Cannon Street - Darford via Woolwich Arsenal.
London Victoria - Dartford via Bexleyheath.
London Charing Cross/Cannon Street - Gravesend via Sidcup.
London Charing Cross/Cannon Street - Sevonoaks via Orpington
London Victoria - Orpington via Brixto
Grove Park - Bromley North
I don't know if they intergrate Thameslink services and trains and fast trains thar serve Bromley South/Orpington/Swanley into the ticketing?
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 10, 2024 15:49:56 GMT
It's a matter of when, now that Southeastern comes under the TFL brand, what Khan said is a major clue and appointing Peter Hendy is another major clue. So I would think the routes to come under TFL would be. London Cannon Street - Woolwich Arsenal/Bexleyheath Circular. London Cannon Street - Darford via Woolwich Arsenal. London Victoria - Dartford via Bexleyheath. London Charing Cross/Cannon Street - Gravesend via Sidcup. London Charing Cross/Cannon Street - Sevonoaks via Orpington London Victoria - Orpington via Brixto Grove Park - Bromley North I don't know if they intergrate Thameslink services and trains and fast trains thar serve Bromley South/Orpington/Swanley into the ticketing? And it won't just be the Southeastern routes, I expect suburban routes on Southern Railway and South Western Railway to come under TfL Control. Also the Great Northern stopping services from Moorgate. I don't expect Thameslink to becom part of TfL as it is more a regional network, Chiltern Railways as their London suburban presence is negligible, or c2c as that is largely supplemented by the District Line within the London area and fares and ticketing between Upminster and Central London are already fully integrated. TfL would be able to take control of fares and ticketing on some routes though. TfL will need to work closely with Great British Railways anyway so that will make integration with longer-distance services easier to achieve. |
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Post by VMH2537 on Jul 10, 2024 16:46:16 GMT
I think we also can't forget Thameslink can always be split into two operations based on their purpose. The metro stopping services can be transferred to TfL and the Regional operation running on its own. This will continue requiring coordination in the core to maintain service intervals and links. In my opinion, I would operate the metro service under a Crossrail brand alongside the Elizabeth line based from its Cross London route.
Though again the question remains on what will happen when the line naming changes. The whole Thameslink route is widely just known as 'Thameslink' and if the service was announced as 'Thameslink Metro' or 'Thameslink Regional', Will there be any confusion?
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Post by ServerKing on Jul 22, 2024 15:32:20 GMT
Labour are now carrying the baton for GBR, (perhaps they will drop the "great" part) it looks like the first company to be nationalised is Greater Anglia, whish is one of the best performing operators out of 20...  contract is up in September this year. Not sure what Transport UK will make of that, unless GBR is a TfL style operation with a main livery and private operators on contracts. Network Rail signage in Liverpool Street station has been replaced by a British Rail 2 font style, I wonder what other signage will change as GA stations have a medley of signs dating back to National Express days in 2007... There is also the name changes to the Overground lines coming up this month but there's not much fanfare... |
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Post by VMH2537 on Jul 22, 2024 17:06:46 GMT
Labour are now carrying the baton for GBR, (perhaps they will drop the "great" part) it looks like the first company to be nationalised is Greater Anglia, whish is one of the best performing operators out of 20... contract is up in September this year. Not sure what Transport UK will make of that, unless GBR is a TfL style operation with a main livery and private operators on contracts. Network Rail signage in Liverpool Street station has been replaced by a British Rail 2 font style, I wonder what other signage will change as GA stations have a medley of signs dating back to National Express days in 2007... There is also the name changes to the Overground lines coming up this month but there's not much fanfare... I'm not sure exactly how this will work considering terminating a contract requires a 3 month notice period. Unless the DfT have issued one now, we will never know what will happen to GA's contract. If its not terminated, the latest it can go for is up to is September 2026. Even if its terminated, I'm very spectacle on how the DfT will operate the service being its currently one of the best operating companies in the country as well even subsidies funding to the treasury (happy to be corrected here). The passenger railway services bill is not expected to pass until the end of the year, from then can the Government takeover operations with the requirement of a 3 month notice. Contracts for GTR, Southwestern, C2C etc are one of those expiring next year if notice is given in advance. Maybe perhaps those operations could be nationalised or even having some devolved to London Overground. |
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contract is up in September this year. Not sure what Transport UK will make of that, unless GBR is a TfL style operation with a main livery and private operators on contracts.