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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2021 20:46:43 GMT
01 reg doesn't exist though Not yet, but it will be for vehicles registered between 1st March 2050 & 31st August 2050.
After that a new system will be required as 51 reg has already been used for vehicles registered from 1st September 2001 until 28th February 2002.
Vehicles registered between 1st March 2050 and 31st August 2050 will be 50 reg, not 01. The last available number is the sequence will be 00 for 1st September 2050 to 28th February 2051. A new system will kick in after that but 01 isn’t planned to be used.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2021 6:06:17 GMT
Yeah that makes sense. There were a lot of ALX400s still in service when i was there back in November 2019, so have obviously been withdrawn since then, although I did see one in service still when i was up there last month. The 08 and 09 reg geminis i saw there last month were definitely not there back in 2019 so must've been cascaded in since then 01 reg doesn't exist though Oh yeah i understand that now, but I'm more interested in the fact that the 08 and 09 reg Gemini 1's are now working routes 501 and 503 whereas they didn't back in 2019, so am just curious where they were cascaded from, if anyone knows?
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Post by alanh57 on Oct 28, 2021 8:22:59 GMT
01 reg doesn't exist though Not yet, but it will be for vehicles registered between 1st March 2050 & 31st August 2050.
After that a new system will be required as 51 reg has already been used for vehicles registered from 1st September 2001 until 28th February 2002.
1st March 2050 to 31st August 2050 should be 50 plate NOT 00, 00 should be for 1st August 2050 to 28th February 2051. 01 as not previously used should be 1st March 2051 to 31st August 2051. Don't see need for new system after August 2051, who keeps a vehicle 50 years could use 51 again. Plenty of plates not issued 1st time round. My local office Reading has never as far as l'm aware issued: RB, RC, RM, RP, RR (only RR l've seen was select issue), RS, RT,
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Oct 29, 2021 11:47:12 GMT
Not yet, but it will be for vehicles registered between 1st March 2050 & 31st August 2050.
After that a new system will be required as 51 reg has already been used for vehicles registered from 1st September 2001 until 28th February 2002.
1st March 2050 to 31st August 2050 should be 50 plate NOT 00, 00 should be for 1st August 2050 to 28th February 2051. 01 as not previously used should be 1st March 2051 to 31st August 2051. Don't see need for new system after August 2051, who keeps a vehicle 50 years could use 51 again. Plenty of plates not issued 1st time round. My local office Reading has never as far as l'm aware issued: RB, RC, RM, RP, RR (only RR l've seen was select issue), RS, RT, Or just do what they did in the eighties, move the two numbers. Such as LLLL NNL where N is number and L is letter. The first 4 letters could be chosen by the manufacturer and the final one denoting the location (e.g. L or R).
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 29, 2021 15:33:49 GMT
Oh ok thanks, that's interesting to know actually. The 01 and 02 reg geminis have all but disappeared from those routes when i was up there last month, but when i was last up in Huddersfield before that back in 2019, there were a lot more and no 07 or 08 reg B9TLs were present on these routes. 01 reg? The system went from Y reg to 51, then 02, 52, and so on I've seen 53 plate ex London B7TL's in fine fettle in Weston Super Mare, with First Badgerline I guess we cam add Stagecoach to the thread as they left, then came back after about 3 years
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 23:07:55 GMT
I was up in Huddersfield 2 weeks ago and was surprised to see numerous 04 reg gemini 1s, I'm sure i didn't see quite so many when i was up there back in June.
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Post by rogerout on Apr 14, 2023 14:35:14 GMT
Anyone know where Kentish Bus was operated from? I remember getting that bus when I lived near Orpington to get to town. It ran into Dartford in those days, before Bluewater opened.
Also, was there an operator called Crystals that operated in Orpington/ Bromley? I’m sure some Bromley drivers said they worked for them, I’d imagine it was in the 90s.
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Post by greenboy on Apr 14, 2023 15:37:54 GMT
Anyone know where Kentish Bus was operated from? I remember getting that bus when I lived near Orpington to get to town. It ran into Dartford in those days, before Bluewater opened. Also, was there an operator called Crystals that operated in Orpington/ Bromley? I’m sure some Bromley drivers said they worked for them, I’d imagine it was in the 90s. Kentish Bus operated from Dartford, Northfleet, Dunton Green and Deptford (LM) and Crystals once operated the 146 and R2 and possibly a few other routes but I can't remember off the top of my head.
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Post by cl54 on Apr 14, 2023 16:48:01 GMT
Anyone know where Kentish Bus was operated from? I remember getting that bus when I lived near Orpington to get to town. It ran into Dartford in those days, before Bluewater opened. Also, was there an operator called Crystals that operated in Orpington/ Bromley? I’m sure some Bromley drivers said they worked for them, I’d imagine it was in the 90s. Kentish Bus operated from Dartford, Northfleet, Dunton Green and Deptford (LM) and Crystals once operated the 146 and R2 and possibly a few other routes but I can't remember off the top of my head. Crystals was an operator who were licenced to run a service within the old London Transport area. This was rare at the time. They then tendered for routes until they went bust.
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Post by rift on Apr 14, 2023 21:55:15 GMT
Anyone know where Kentish Bus was operated from? I remember getting that bus when I lived near Orpington to get to town. It ran into Dartford in those days, before Bluewater opened. Also, was there an operator called Crystals that operated in Orpington/ Bromley? I’m sure some Bromley drivers said they worked for them, I’d imagine it was in the 90s. Kentish Bus operated from Dartford, Northfleet, Dunton Green and Deptford (LM) and Crystals once operated the 146 and R2 and possibly a few other routes but I can't remember off the top of my head. Before my time, but Kentish also operated some Central London routes such as the 19, referencing to photos and old timetables. Crystals also had the B14. There isn’t much information about the company that I can find online
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Post by greenboy on Apr 14, 2023 22:20:18 GMT
Kentish Bus operated from Dartford, Northfleet, Dunton Green and Deptford (LM) and Crystals once operated the 146 and R2 and possibly a few other routes but I can't remember off the top of my head. Before my time, but Kentish also operated some Central London routes such as the 19, referencing to photos and old timetables. Crystals also had the B14. There isn’t much information about the company that I can find online Yes they did indeed operate the 19 and also the 22A/B and 55 that I'd forgotten about.
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Post by WH241 on Apr 14, 2023 22:22:48 GMT
Kentish Bus operated from Dartford, Northfleet, Dunton Green and Deptford (LM) and Crystals once operated the 146 and R2 and possibly a few other routes but I can't remember off the top of my head. Before my time, but Kentish also operated some Central London routes such as the 19, referencing to photos and old timetables. Crystals also had the B14. There isn’t much information about the company that I can find online Also ran the D8 and D9 and various times in the 90s and also the 108.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Apr 14, 2023 22:28:04 GMT
Before my time, but Kentish also operated some Central London routes such as the 19, referencing to photos and old timetables. Crystals also had the B14. There isn’t much information about the company that I can find online Also ran the D8 and D9 and various times in the 90s and also the 108. the D8 and D9 contracts were pretty strange at the time. IIRC the D8 was Thamesway on weekdays and Kentish Bus at weekends and the D9 was Kentish Bus (I think during the week) and Grey Green at the weekends, both linked to upgrade works on the DLR where it was closed after 2000 and all weekend. Kentish Bus ran the P14 through the Rotherhithe Tunnel for a while as well Kentish Bus also ran the North London Line replacement routes during construction of the Jubilee Line extension between Stratford and North Woolwich using Leyland Lynxs from the 108 and Atlanteans on a peak hour route that ran via Plaistow instead of West Ham
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Post by redexpress on Apr 14, 2023 22:42:05 GMT
Anyone know where Kentish Bus was operated from? I remember getting that bus when I lived near Orpington to get to town. It ran into Dartford in those days, before Bluewater opened. Also, was there an operator called Crystals that operated in Orpington/ Bromley? I’m sure some Bromley drivers said they worked for them, I’d imagine it was in the 90s. As mentioned above Kentish Bus (formerly London Country South East) initially operated from Dartford, Northfleet, Dunton Green and Swanley. In the early days of tendering they also operated London contracts out of various temporary sites.
During the early 90s they won significant amounts of London work and opened new bases in Leyton (on the site currently occupied by LI), Deptford and Battersea. At one point Kentish Bus was the largest private operator of London bus contracts, before the wholesale privatisation of London Buses. The Leyton base was later replaced by leasing Ash Grove, while Deptford quickly closed due to staffing difficulties. The company ended up as part of Arriva, with the remaining London work being transferred to Arriva London. The Dartford and Northfleet bases are still in use under Arriva.
Crystals were a much smaller outfit. They were one of the first companies to win a tendered London bus route, gaining the 146 in the first round of tendering in 1985. The 146 was later lost to Metrobus but the company returned to London bus work by winning various mobility routes, followed by the R2 and R7 in 1995. Crystals were notable for building their own bodywork for some of their buses (such as the Mercedes midibuses used on mobility routes).
They were bought out by Tellings-Golden Miller in 2003, but the operation was too remote from the rest of TGM's business to be manageable, so was sold on to Metrobus in 2005.
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Post by cardinal on Apr 15, 2023 7:18:55 GMT
Anyone know where Kentish Bus was operated from? I remember getting that bus when I lived near Orpington to get to town. It ran into Dartford in those days, before Bluewater opened. Also, was there an operator called Crystals that operated in Orpington/ Bromley? I’m sure some Bromley drivers said they worked for them, I’d imagine it was in the 90s. Depending on the era - but Kentish Bus certainly were running the 51 in Orpington 1986-1992 and the route I think you’re referring to is the 477 which was extended to Bluewater in 2000. Both routes were run from Dartford , with the 51 also having allocations from Dunton Green and Swanley at various points.
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