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Post by dashing0ne on Jun 29, 2021 6:51:53 GMT
This is a thread dedicated to the successes and failures of all operators.
Measure it the way you want just mention the way you are measuring so we all understand.
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Post by WH241 on Jun 29, 2021 7:56:13 GMT
This is a thread dedicated to the successes and failures of all operators.
How are you goin to measure the success and failure? Tender wins and losses? Performance? Profit and loss?
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jun 29, 2021 8:46:58 GMT
This is a thread dedicated to the successes and failures of all operators.
How are you goin to measure the success and failure? Tender wins and losses? Performance? Profit and loss? ..as I have always..it's better to run less for a profit than more at a loss.
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 29, 2021 9:01:32 GMT
Who remembers Harris Bus? Those east lancs pyoneer buses were nice buses. I disliked the Optare Excels on the 108 though.
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Post by WH241 on Jun 29, 2021 9:23:48 GMT
Who remembers Harris Bus? Those east lancs pyoneer buses were nice buses. I disliked the Optare Excels on the 108 though. Yep especially remember the buses really standing out! Stratford was a great spot in the 90s for a bus enthusiast we had Capital City Bus, Grey Green and before Harris I remember Kentish Buses on the 108.
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 29, 2021 9:37:02 GMT
Who remembers Harris Bus? Those east lancs pyoneer buses were nice buses. I disliked the Optare Excels on the 108 though. Yep especially remember the buses really standing out! Stratford was a great spot in the 90s for a bus enthusiast we had Capital City Bus, Grey Green and before Harris I remember Kentish Buses on the 108. The good ol days. I still remembered when the excels were so bad on the 108 that they had to bring in second hand buses to make up the shortfall. I also remembered them on the 132 and on first capital's 396.
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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 29, 2021 11:08:26 GMT
Was reading the other day about London Easylink. Can anyone give me some more context as to why they were awarded the 185 and why they failed?
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 29, 2021 11:10:25 GMT
London Easylink
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 29, 2021 11:15:11 GMT
Was reading the other day about London Easylink. Can anyone give me some more context as to why they were awarded the 185 and why they failed? lol, I just posted about them. The owner, who was a bus enthusiast had seek help from many members on another bus forum about spec etc on the buses to be ordered. It was one of the first to have majority of windows on the upper deck opening. i cannot even remember the spec we came up with, but it some then after saw its way on to other operators buses, so it was a good thing. Unfortunately Peter Lee if that was his real name, who was married with kids had an obsession for very high priced escorts, the ones who charge £1000k, some even £5k. IIRC he spent a lot of money on them and it was the company's money he was using. In effect he put the company in debt, so when it was revealed, the drivers were told to take the buses back to the garage and they were locked up. All staff sadly lost their job in an instant. he was jailed, but believe he is out now, but has kept a very low profile.
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Post by bustavane on Jun 29, 2021 13:25:05 GMT
Was reading the other day about London Easylink. Can anyone give me some more context as to why they were awarded the 185 and why they failed? lol, I just posted about them. The owner, who was a bus enthusiast had seek help from many members on another bus forum about spec etc on the buses to be ordered. It was one of the first to have majority of windows on the upper deck opening. i cannot even remember the spec we came up with, but it some then after saw its way on to other operators buses, so it was a good thing. Unfortunately Peter Lee if that was his real name, who was married with kids had an obsession for very high priced escorts, the ones who charge £1000k, some even £5k. IIRC he spent a lot of money on them and it was the company's money he was using. In effect he put the company in debt, so when it was revealed, the drivers were told to take the buses back to the garage and they were locked up. All staff sadly lost their job in an instant. he was jailed, but believe he is out now, but has kept a very low profile. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/company-boss-who-stole-to-pay-for-sex-is-jailed-for-three-years-72435.html
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jun 29, 2021 15:25:06 GMT
Thorpes I liked. DLF125 was probably my favourite dart out of all the batch. DLF41 as well was very unique. Certainly that time was interesting. Single decker 210s & 316s to Neasden. Ealing Community Transport was the only one to use one type of bus (Thorpes is so close by it having one marshall but the rest being darts) Just for anyone interested lots of the 52 plate DLFs at Thorpes ended up at Abellio for the 235 and then moved onto EOS out in Harlow before their demise so don't know where they are now. One of the KX53***s is now with Nu-Venture (there were two) DLF125 was with a company in plain white and was last pictured in the Summer of 2019 outside Barking Station with blank blinds. Some of the Y***JBH batch are now with Transdev Blazefield as trainers. The majority of the early batch did not find work after leaving Thorpes (so the S/W/X reg)
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 29, 2021 15:30:38 GMT
What happened to London Surbuban. I remembered them when they used to operate the 41 and 271 back in the 90s and then they went to MTL which then became present day Metroline.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 29, 2021 15:47:29 GMT
Ealing Community Transport was the only one to use one type of bus (Thorpes is so close by it having one marshall but the rest being darts) Ealing Community Transport also temporarily had Pointer Darts on hire - 4 ex Sovereign examples on hire from Mitcham Belle whilst it's Caetano's were being delivered in 2003 and then in 2004, there was a long term hire of a Pointer in all over white for about a year or so covering for presumably a PVR increase as a new Caetano was ordered and arrived in 2005.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jun 29, 2021 15:53:20 GMT
Ealing Community Transport was the only one to use one type of bus (Thorpes is so close by it having one marshall but the rest being darts) Ealing Community Transport also temporarily had Pointer Darts on hire - 4 ex Sovereign examples on hire from Mitcham Belle whilst it's Caetano's were being delivered in 2003 and then in 2004, there was a long term hire of a Pointer in all over white for about a year or so covering for presumably a PVR increase as a new Caetano was ordered and arrived in 2005. I assume that Caeteno was KX05KFW?
I think those 4 ex Sovereign Examples passed to Thorpes afterwards. I also remember W568JVV, that was one of the only examples that started life outside of London before entering London. Other examples were Blue Triangle TPLs, Abellio London Darts (so like DK04SUU), X157JOP (VPL174), WVL2-4 in Sullivans & DLF125 in Thorpes.
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Post by dashing0ne on Jun 29, 2021 16:05:59 GMT
This is a thread dedicated to the successes and failures of all operators.
How are you goin to measure the success and failure? Tender wins and losses? Performance? Profit and loss? All ways
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