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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 27, 2021 17:08:42 GMT
Not quite. Either route 1 will be diverted to Hampstead Heath or route 168 diverted to Canada Water. Probably better if Go Ahead take over the route, since if there are curtailments, there is always the Northern line. Also it should be relatively easy to learn for Go Ahead, just a straight line from TCR, only difficulties may be the few turns southbound around Camden Given that the Metroline tender for route 168 expires at that point, it seems more likely that the route 1 contract with GA will be revised accordingly. Actually a straight line from Holborn rather than TCR (as it is being diverted away from there) but I take your point.
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Post by WH241 on Dec 1, 2021 20:38:29 GMT
If things get really bad in the next few weeks and no finance deal is reached can TfL make quick drastic changes to routes without formal consultation? I mean for example shorting routes that have duplication. So for example cutting duplicated sections like the 262/473 from Prince Regent to Stratford or a more extreme example cutting the 425 back to Mile End instead of 3 routes towards Ilford from Stratford.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Dec 1, 2021 23:12:18 GMT
If things get really bad in the next few weeks and no finance deal is reached can TfL make quick drastic changes to routes without formal consultation? I mean for example shorting routes that have duplication. So for example cutting duplicated sections like the 262/473 from Prince Regent to Stratford or a more extreme example cutting the 425 back to Mile End instead of 3 routes towards Ilford from Stratford. I hope not, I can't really see those routes being cut, but frequency reductions is more likely to happen, now that this Omicron variant is spreading very fast, we're pretty much going back to square one all over again if things seriously get out of control with people not following the rules (for example, refusing to wear face masks or not keeping 2m distance).
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Post by lundnah on Dec 3, 2021 14:26:25 GMT
TfL have just published the result of a Freedom of Information request regarding Bus frequency reductions in Central and Inner London
The question asked was "I am requesting information relating to frequency reductions since the beginning of 2021."
TfL's response was "Please find the attached list of changes. It only goes back as far as July 2021, we don’t hold anything before then."
The list of changes wasn't attached - I guess it was only made available to the person who asked.
But far more shocking is that TfL claim not to have records of bus frequency reductions made before July 2021.
Either they have appallingly shoddy data management (e.g. they've updated their IT systems and failed to keep the data) or they're lying. I fear it's the former.
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Post by SILENCED on Dec 3, 2021 14:33:13 GMT
TfL have just published the result of a Freedom of Information request regarding Bus frequency reductions in Central and Inner London
The question asked was "I am requesting information relating to frequency reductions since the beginning of 2021."
TfL's response was "Please find the attached list of changes. It only goes back as far as July 2021, we don’t hold anything before then."
The list of changes wasn't attached - I guess it was only made available to the person who asked.
But far more shocking is that TfL claim not to have records of bus frequency reductions made before July 2021.
Either they have appallingly shoddy data management (e.g. they've updated their IT systems and failed to keep the data) or they're lying. I fear it's the former.
Surely it depends on their data retention policy. Having said that it was a poor question so deserves a poor response
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Dec 4, 2021 10:50:35 GMT
TfL have just published the result of a Freedom of Information request regarding Bus frequency reductions in Central and Inner London
The question asked was "I am requesting information relating to frequency reductions since the beginning of 2021."
TfL's response was "Please find the attached list of changes. It only goes back as far as July 2021, we don’t hold anything before then."
The list of changes wasn't attached - I guess it was only made available to the person who asked.
But far more shocking is that TfL claim not to have records of bus frequency reductions made before July 2021.
Either they have appallingly shoddy data management (e.g. they've updated their IT systems and failed to keep the data) or they're lying. I fear it's the former.
Surely it depends on their data retention policy. Having said that it was a poor question so deserves a poor response The response was quite good actually imo. I can see the changes since July 2021 here, it's in some form of code though. It appears to me the person who asked is new to FOI requests (I can see some info on WhatDoTheyKnow).
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 4, 2021 22:59:06 GMT
TfL have just published the result of a Freedom of Information request regarding Bus frequency reductions in Central and Inner London
The question asked was "I am requesting information relating to frequency reductions since the beginning of 2021."
TfL's response was "Please find the attached list of changes. It only goes back as far as July 2021, we don’t hold anything before then."
The list of changes wasn't attached - I guess it was only made available to the person who asked.
But far more shocking is that TfL claim not to have records of bus frequency reductions made before July 2021.
Either they have appallingly shoddy data management (e.g. they've updated their IT systems and failed to keep the data) or they're lying. I fear it's the former.
They do know the info. It is not rocket science either, the researcher can do it themselves.
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Post by WH241 on Dec 9, 2021 20:24:26 GMT
Interesting article here
TfL crisis: Sadiq Khan ‘needs to get real and provide own solution’, says Paul Scully
Minister for London said there was ‘no basis’ for Mayor’s threat to close an entire Tube line
A few key points
Paul Scully, the Minister for London, said there was “no basis” for the Mayor’s threat to axe 100 bus routes and close an entire Tube line as “more than enough money” would be provided to maintain services at their current levels.
A Government source told the Standard: “There is a deal on the table, if he wants it.”
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Another news story
New WFH order could cost Tube and buses £100m in lost takings
The Government has offered to continue the terms of TfL’s current bailout until the end of March, meaning it will plug the gap in lost fares — which was expected to amount to about £300 million, prior to the working from home announcement last night.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 9, 2021 23:12:03 GMT
Interesting article here
TfL crisis: Sadiq Khan ‘needs to get real and provide own solution’, says Paul Scully
Minister for London said there was ‘no basis’ for Mayor’s threat to close an entire Tube line A few key points
Paul Scully, the Minister for London, said there was “no basis” for the Mayor’s threat to axe 100 bus routes and close an entire Tube line as “more than enough money” would be provided to maintain services at their current levels.
A Government source told the Standard: “There is a deal on the table, if he wants it.”
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Another news story
New WFH order could cost Tube and buses £100m in lost takings The Government has offered to continue the terms of TfL’s current bailout until the end of March, meaning it will plug the gap in lost fares — which was expected to amount to about £300 million, prior to the working from home announcement last night.
Shock horror - Tory MP in government criticises Khan. In other news, the rain falls from the sky. Apologies, not having a go at you as it’s not your fault, just I’d take a pinch of salt when reading an article from any current serving politician of all persuasions.
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Post by dashing0ne on Dec 12, 2021 9:52:55 GMT
Interesting article here
TfL crisis: Sadiq Khan ‘needs to get real and provide own solution’, says Paul Scully
Minister for London said there was ‘no basis’ for Mayor’s threat to close an entire Tube line A few key points
Paul Scully, the Minister for London, said there was “no basis” for the Mayor’s threat to axe 100 bus routes and close an entire Tube line as “more than enough money” would be provided to maintain services at their current levels.
A Government source told the Standard: “There is a deal on the table, if he wants it.”
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Another news story
New WFH order could cost Tube and buses £100m in lost takings The Government has offered to continue the terms of TfL’s current bailout until the end of March, meaning it will plug the gap in lost fares — which was expected to amount to about £300 million, prior to the working from home announcement last night.
Shock horror - Tory MP in government criticises Khan. In other news, the rain falls from the sky. Apologies, not having a go at you as it’s not your fault, just I’d take a pinch of salt when reading an article from any current serving politician of all persuasions. MP for Sutton and Cheam since 2015.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 12, 2021 11:06:11 GMT
Shock horror - Tory MP in government criticises Khan. In other news, the rain falls from the sky. Apologies, not having a go at you as it’s not your fault, just I’d take a pinch of salt when reading an article from any current serving politician of all persuasions. MP for Sutton and Cheam since 2015. I couldn’t care less where his constituency is, my original point still stands
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Post by wirewiper on Dec 13, 2021 18:08:49 GMT
If things get really bad in the next few weeks and no finance deal is reached can TfL make quick drastic changes to routes without formal consultation? I mean for example shorting routes that have duplication. So for example cutting duplicated sections like the 262/473 from Prince Regent to Stratford or a more extreme example cutting the 425 back to Mile End instead of 3 routes towards Ilford from Stratford. I had hoped that TfL was going to have a long(er)term deal announced, but given that the Government has advised that people should once again work from home where possible and may decide to introduce more restrictions in the near future, it now has a duty to ensure TfL can continue in the interim. I would therefore expect the current funding arrangements to roll over to March. Out of London I would also expect an extension to Bus Service Support Grants and postponement of announcing the results of Bus Improvement Plan grant awards.
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Post by snowman on Dec 13, 2021 19:13:52 GMT
If things get really bad in the next few weeks and no finance deal is reached can TfL make quick drastic changes to routes without formal consultation? I mean for example shorting routes that have duplication. So for example cutting duplicated sections like the 262/473 from Prince Regent to Stratford or a more extreme example cutting the 425 back to Mile End instead of 3 routes towards Ilford from Stratford. I had hoped that TfL was going to have a long(er)term deal announced, but given that the Government has advised that people should once again work from home where possible and may decide to introduce more restrictions in the near future, it now has a duty to ensure TfL can continue in the interim. I would therefore expect the current funding arrangements to roll over to March. Out of London I would also expect an extension to Bus Service Support Grants and postponement of announcing the results of Bus Improvement Plan grant awards. It seems the Government asked TfL for proposals to raise revenue, and gave them until 4 weeks ago to return the proposals, but TfL didn’t, so deadline got extended. Seems they have been given another extension until Wednesday to suggest revenue raising. The more hair brained schemes of asking for some car VED has been firmly rejected TfL now being tight lipped, but fare increases, reduction of free travel, raising council tax precept are possibly amongst the potential ways to bring in funds. Clearly TfL need the mayor to be realistic (even if it is politically unpopular for him). My guess is Government will not give any serious commitment whilst mayor is not prepared to shift on unpopular ideas, and TfL is stuck in the middle, limping on with short term bailouts. www.gov.uk/government/speeches/interim-extension-of-current-transport-for-london-funding-settlement
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 13, 2021 19:30:50 GMT
Top of my list would be a small increase to season tickets (where the cost spread of a month or year is less noticeable) and removal of free travel from the tube/Overground/rail now for the foreseeable.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Dec 14, 2021 11:58:29 GMT
I've had another look and updated the list. I've used current bus schedules and the Wayback Machine on LBR. For Arriva routes and some others, I've verified the final PVR value on LBR.
All accurate to Saturday 11/12/2021
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