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Post by TB123 on Jun 1, 2022 8:32:18 GMT
Suprised nothing about the 73/476 corridor to be honest I am as well, also the 139/189. Might not be withdrawn, that dosen't mean the 73/476 and 139/189 won't be altered.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 1, 2022 8:34:55 GMT
I am as well, also the 139/189. I know it was announced but optimisticly, with local organisations and MPs and whatever the locals do, at least one of these routes will be saved. TFL get extensive backlash, the change won't happen or at least a minor change. I don't think the locals of the 31 would want that route gone, so we should see some communities. This was the case for the 271 aswell??? Yes and it didn't end well for the 271 with only a slight modification to the 143/234 from the original plans. Whilst it's too early to say, if one route can be saved then my money would be on the 24 due to its long standing nature. The 11, 14 and 74 can be 'saved' closer to the time at the expense of the 211/414/430.
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Post by towertransit70 on Jun 1, 2022 8:48:59 GMT
I know it was announced but optimisticly, with local organisations and MPs and whatever the locals do, at least one of these routes will be saved. TFL get extensive backlash, the change won't happen or at least a minor change. I don't think the locals of the 31 would want that route gone, so we should see some communities. This was the case for the 271 aswell??? Yes and it didn't end well for the 271 with only a slight modification to the 143/234 from the original plans. Whilst it's too early to say, if one route can be saved then my money would be on the 24 due to its long standing nature. The 11, 14 and 74 can be 'saved' closer to the time at the expense of the 211/414/430. I really hope so for the sake of passengers. We need them not lose them.
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Post by Green Kitten on Jun 1, 2022 9:00:05 GMT
I'd rather have the smaller numbers (and what happens to the related night bus routes?) Makes more sense to have the 74 and N74...
Is 11 generally used more as a cheap alternative to a tourist bus? Might be worth keeping it.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 1, 2022 9:24:47 GMT
TfL’s reliance on passenger fares for the majority of its income, means the effect of the pandemic on TfL’s finances has been devastating, requiring Government support to keep public transport in London operating. The Government set a number of conditions before it would provide emergency funding to keep TfL operating, including requiring a plan to set out how we would achieve significant financial savings.
We have had to undertake a detailed review of London's bus network in order to achieve these significant financial savings required by the Government.
As part of this work, we’ve reviewed key bus corridors from the north, south, east, and west into the centre of the city. This is because demand has reduced over the years on some roads leading into central and inner London due to changing travel patterns which have been accelerated by the pandemic.
Today we have launched a public consultation that proposes a number of changes to bus routes into central London, and would like to hear your views. The changes being consulted on are intended to cause as little disruption to passengers as possible, while making the savings required by the Government.
For further information, to see which bus routes are included in our proposals and to complete our online survey, please visit tfl.gov.uk/busreview
Alternatively you can submit your response to us by email or in writing (no stamp needed) to:
• haveyoursay@tfl.gov.uk; or
• FREEPOST TFL HAVE YOUR SAY (CLBR)
Consultation closes Tuesday 12 July 2022
We are keen to hear from anyone that wants to comment on this consultation. Please do pass on these details to your own contacts as you may find appropriate.
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Post by greg on Jun 1, 2022 9:33:23 GMT
Chalk Farm and Camden Market loses 1/2 of the buses running through it now to just the 27 and 168, with only the 168 running through it.
Also another unpopular theory/idea
the 27 will be extended to Kilburn Park to replace the 31 section no other changes to routes 28 and 328
46 rerouted via the 24 instead between Malden Road and Camden Gardens towards Bart's Hospital (393 is still available and Ferdinand Street and Hawley Road bus stops are not far from the current 46 routing).
Towards Paddington, buses turn onto Camden Town Station and turn at Bayham Street onto the 24 routing until LOR at Malden Road.
Buses would no longer serve ivor street, prince of wales road, kentish town west station. Kentish Town West Station would only be a 2 minute walk from Ferdinand Street. Ivor Street wouldn't be an issue as its only served by the 46 towards Paddington whereas it uses Camden Gardens southbound
This could also deck the route as the low bridge would no longer be served especially if the 24 was gone, SDs alone on this section could never work
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 1, 2022 10:32:16 GMT
TfL’s reliance on passenger fares for the majority of its income, means the effect of the pandemic on TfL’s finances has been devastating, requiring Government support to keep public transport in London operating. The Government set a number of conditions before it would provide emergency funding to keep TfL operating, including requiring a plan to set out how we would achieve significant financial savings. We have had to undertake a detailed review of London's bus network in order to achieve these significant financial savings required by the Government. As part of this work, we’ve reviewed key bus corridors from the north, south, east, and west into the centre of the city. This is because demand has reduced over the years on some roads leading into central and inner London due to changing travel patterns which have been accelerated by the pandemic. Today we have launched a public consultation that proposes a number of changes to bus routes into central London, and would like to hear your views. The changes being consulted on are intended to cause as little disruption to passengers as possible, while making the savings required by the Government. For further information, to see which bus routes are included in our proposals and to complete our online survey, please visit tfl.gov.uk/busreview Alternatively you can submit your response to us by email or in writing (no stamp needed) to: • haveyoursay@tfl.gov.uk; or • FREEPOST TFL HAVE YOUR SAY (CLBR) Consultation closes Tuesday 12 July 2022 We are keen to hear from anyone that wants to comment on this consultation. Please do pass on these details to your own contacts as you may find appropriate. Can we reopen the specific consultation thread now!
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Post by WH241 on Jun 1, 2022 10:34:10 GMT
TfL’s reliance on passenger fares for the majority of its income, means the effect of the pandemic on TfL’s finances has been devastating, requiring Government support to keep public transport in London operating. The Government set a number of conditions before it would provide emergency funding to keep TfL operating, including requiring a plan to set out how we would achieve significant financial savings. We have had to undertake a detailed review of London's bus network in order to achieve these significant financial savings required by the Government. As part of this work, we’ve reviewed key bus corridors from the north, south, east, and west into the centre of the city. This is because demand has reduced over the years on some roads leading into central and inner London due to changing travel patterns which have been accelerated by the pandemic. Today we have launched a public consultation that proposes a number of changes to bus routes into central London, and would like to hear your views. The changes being consulted on are intended to cause as little disruption to passengers as possible, while making the savings required by the Government. For further information, to see which bus routes are included in our proposals and to complete our online survey, please visit tfl.gov.uk/busreview Alternatively you can submit your response to us by email or in writing (no stamp needed) to: • haveyoursay@tfl.gov.uk; or • FREEPOST TFL HAVE YOUR SAY (CLBR) Consultation closes Tuesday 12 July 2022 We are keen to hear from anyone that wants to comment on this consultation. Please do pass on these details to your own contacts as you may find appropriate. Can we reopen the specific consultation thread now! Might as well rename the routes to be scrapped thread as there are many pages of discussion.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 1, 2022 10:51:01 GMT
Honestly can't see that happening. You are virtually replacing the whole route with an extension of another, thereby negating the majority of the savings this is intended to make The Nunhead to Peckham Rye Section of the 78 is fairly quiet and also partly covered by the P12. I expect Nunhead stand to be removed if this happened. 78 between Peckham and Bermondsey is the busiest part of the route The weekday peaks also also busy with workers using it between Old Kent Rd and Aldgate/Liverpool St area.
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Post by Volvo on Jun 2, 2022 9:40:26 GMT
I wonder if the extension to the 507 & N507 will be replaced with DDs or just more buses.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 2, 2022 11:39:48 GMT
I wonder if the extension to the 507 & N507 will be replaced with DDs or just more buses. Apparently it will remain single decker
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Post by Volvo on Jun 2, 2022 12:05:07 GMT
I wonder if the extension to the 507 & N507 will be replaced with DDs or just more buses. Apparently it will remain single decker Thank you.
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 2, 2022 12:15:15 GMT
I wonder if the extension to the 507 & N507 will be replaced with DDs or just more buses. Apparently it will remain single decker Crikey! No wonder they are proposing to ditch the 11 route number and keep the 507 number! What we don’t know is how frequently it will run with the single deckers.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 2, 2022 12:33:47 GMT
If anything I'd say the 388 could be replacing the 242 to Aldgate. If the 78 wasn't proposed for withdrawal then I would have put money on it diverting between Aldagte and Shoreditch via the 242 and maybe extended to Dalston. I think the 242 would be replaced between Hackney and Hommerton Hosp by a diversion of the 30. Assuming route 242 is fully covered by other routes in the Homerton area, the section on Commercial Road could be covered by extending route 115 to Shoreditch. Sadly the 242 has been a useless route ever since ti was cut back from TCR, the worst was when it went to St. Pauls. Going to Aldgate the route imo was no justified and too short. It reminds me of how its 22A and 22B was both mucked about with until they became 242. The same goes for the 67 now, completely pointless now. May as well just be replaced with an extension of 329
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Jun 2, 2022 12:55:41 GMT
Assuming route 242 is fully covered by other routes in the Homerton area, the section on Commercial Road could be covered by extending route 115 to Shoreditch. Sadly the 242 has been a useless route ever since ti was cut back from TCR, the worst was when it went to St. Pauls. Going to Aldgate the route imo was no justified and too short. It reminds me of how its 22A and 22B was both mucked about with until they became 242. The same goes for the 67 now, completely pointless now. May as well just be replaced with an extension of 329 Just because the 67 has been shortened, it doesn't necessarily mean it's 'pointless' otherwise nobody will be using the route at all.
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