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Post by vjaska on Jun 2, 2022 17:57:07 GMT
I’m quite happy with the 26 retaining it’s route number, it was designed to replace the eastern part of the 6 between Aldwych and Hackney Wick when the cross city routes were split in the 1992 Central Area bus changes. However unlike the other cross city routes the new 6 and 26 never had an overlapping section as the 26 had a dual role in replacing the Fleet Street - Waterloo Red Arrow Route, so it deviated to Waterloo at Aldwych instead of continuing on towards the West End. With that perspective extending the 26 further west would reinstate some links lost in 1992. The revised 507 definitely needs to be numbered either 11 or 311, I don’t mind which. Single deckers seems lunacy. I think it would be better to keep the number 11 for Victoria to Hackney Wick, well known sightseeing route etc. The 311/507 should be ok with single deckers, probably get a higher frequency because of them. Not much other option really with the SEe's and charging equipment at RA. I would imagine the N507/311 will be double deckers from SW? Well there is another option - have the 507 at SW with double deckers. The chargers won’t be wasted at RA as the 153 operates there and the 214 could also move in for work balance
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Post by M1104 on Jun 2, 2022 17:59:54 GMT
There's no doubt that Fulham and Chelsea residents will find the 507 number incredibly confusing, especially replacing such an established service like the 11. Given its resemblance to the 11 and 211 routes I absolutely agree that 311 should be used The revised 507 definitely needs to be numbered either 11 or 311, I don’t mind which. Single deckers seems lunacy. Will be interesting to know local's reaction to the possible¹ return of single deck operation along Kings Road, especially in addition with the 19 and 211 proposals. The extended 507's a bit reminiscent of the early 90s with conversion of routes to single decks with higher frequencies. I'm not entirely sure the 507 can handle the scenario of single decks along that extension, even more so when Chelsea's playing at home. ¹ - yet to be confirmed
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 2, 2022 18:08:19 GMT
I think it would be better to keep the number 11 for Victoria to Hackney Wick, well known sightseeing route etc. The 311/507 should be ok with single deckers, probably get a higher frequency because of them. Not much other option really with the SEe's and charging equipment at RA. I would imagine the N507/311 will be double deckers from SW? Well there is another option - have the 507 at SW with double deckers. The chargers won’t be wasted at RA as the 153 operates there and the 214 could also move in for work balance If Go Ahead retain the 1/N1 with Electrics RA would be a good location for that route as it is now open on weekends.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Jun 2, 2022 19:20:17 GMT
Well there is another option - have the 507 at SW with double deckers. The chargers won’t be wasted at RA as the 153 operates there and the 214 could also move in for work balance If Go Ahead retain the 1/N1 with Electrics RA would be a good location for that route as it is now open on weekends. Can Waterloo garage accommodate double deckers?
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Jun 2, 2022 19:25:53 GMT
The revised 507 definitely needs to be numbered either 11 or 311, I don’t mind which. Single deckers seems lunacy. Will be interesting to know local's reaction to the possible¹ return of single deck operation along Kings Road, especially in addition with the 19 and 211 proposals. The extended 507's a bit reminiscent of the early 90s with conversion of routes to single decks with higher frequencies. I'm not entirely sure the 507 can handle the scenario of single decks along that extension, even more so when Chelsea's playing at home. ¹ - yet to be confirmed Don't most Chelsea fans use the tube to get to Stamford Bridge, then walk? I'm 50/50 if 507 will mange that stretch with single decks but I think it would just do alright.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Jun 2, 2022 19:29:10 GMT
If Go Ahead retain the 1/N1 with Electrics RA would be a good location for that route as it is now open on weekends. Can Waterloo garage accommodate double deckers? Should do, as there is no restriction I can think of for double decks and I've seen photos of double decks parked there so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Jun 2, 2022 19:39:07 GMT
Well there is another option - have the 507 at SW with double deckers. The chargers won’t be wasted at RA as the 153 operates there and the 214 could also move in for work balance If Go Ahead retain the 1/N1 with Electrics RA would be a good location for that route as it is now open on weekends. Definitely agree with you that route 1/N1 should move to Waterloo (RA) if Go-Ahead retain the route with electrics. Another option for route 1 could be Camberwell (Q) to replace the loss of route 12 in that garage. I just don't think the revised route 1 will be able to run effectively from Morden Wharf (MG).
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Jun 2, 2022 19:40:25 GMT
Well there is another option - have the 507 at SW with double deckers. The chargers won’t be wasted at RA as the 153 operates there and the 214 could also move in for work balance If Go Ahead retain the 1/N1 with Electrics RA would be a good location for that route as it is now open on weekends. Where's the restriction that prevents the 1 from getting LTs? Is it Surrey Quays Shopping Centre? as that's what I heard, obviously I'm not local to the area but obviously the shopping centre is to close as some would know, so 1 could probably get LTs rather than electrics (*that's if there's no other restriction*).
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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 2, 2022 19:46:39 GMT
If Go Ahead retain the 1/N1 with Electrics RA would be a good location for that route as it is now open on weekends. Can Waterloo garage accommodate double deckers? Didn't it run the 11 for a while?
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Post by M1104 on Jun 2, 2022 20:15:31 GMT
Can Waterloo garage accommodate double deckers? Didn't it run the 11 for a while? It did indeed during RM class operation
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Jun 2, 2022 22:08:29 GMT
Confirmed new PVRs for 243 and 341:
243 goes down from 32 to 27. 341 from 22 to 19.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 4, 2022 1:57:14 GMT
But there is no point withdrawing the 242 and then extending the 67 back to Aldgate to replace it. I suspect the idea is to reduce the number of buses along Kingsland Road. The Aldgate section will probably be replaced by rerouting the 47 or maybe the 388? And maybe the 30 rerouted to Homerton? [r] Wouldn't be surprised to see another route like the 135 or 115 get merged into the 242 Yes, potentially the 135 rerouted or - if the links to Liverpool Street are still needed - extend route 115 to Shoreditch. There could even be space to terminate buses there if route 78 is indeed withdrawn as has been speculated.
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Post by snowman on Jun 22, 2022 15:06:52 GMT
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Post by richard on Jun 28, 2022 18:26:50 GMT
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Post by cl54 on Jun 28, 2022 18:47:10 GMT
Can Waterloo garage accommodate double deckers? Should do, as there is no restriction I can think of for double decks and I've seen photos of double decks parked there so it shouldn't be a problem. The maintenance area can only accommodate single deckers.
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