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Post by vjaska on May 17, 2022 14:01:41 GMT
I’ve heard that the LB-Sydenham-Clapham-Victoria service is being withdrawn?  If so this is a shame, I remember living in Sydenham years ago and using this service regularly to see my mates over in SW London, or nights out in Balham or Clapham it was the nearest South London had to having a service similar to the North London Line, although circuitous, it was a highly useful service which avoided zone one apart from Victoria and London Bridge, other than the ELL from Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction and the Victoria to Dartford via Bexleyheath service there aren’t any more direct cross South London rail services. It makes travelling around this neck of the woods very hard, my Hampstead mates have no qualms about going on a night out or to see friends in Camden or Islington, yet now the thought of going to Balham from Blackheath sends shivers down my spine! It is a useful service for orbital journeys across South London although the same journeys can still be made with a change of train at Crystal Palace. Hopefully a half hourly service will be restored on the Beckenham Junction to London Bridge service. Balham to Blackheath via New Cross/Gate or Clapham Junction and Denmark Hill although probably quicker Northern Line to London Bridge and Southeastern from there, not ideal though. Southern's website says the London Bridge to Beckenham Junction service is half hourly during busy times Beckenham Junction / Crystal Palace to London Bridge via Tulse Hill
Services will be reintroduced to provide two trains per hour at busy times, with an hourly service at other times. |
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Post by Dillon95 on May 17, 2022 21:07:35 GMT
It is a useful service for orbital journeys across South London although the same journeys can still be made with a change of train at Crystal Palace. Hopefully a half hourly service will be restored on the Beckenham Junction to London Bridge service. Balham to Blackheath via New Cross/Gate or Clapham Junction and Denmark Hill although probably quicker Northern Line to London Bridge and Southeastern from there, not ideal though. Southern's website says the London Bridge to Beckenham Junction service is half hourly during busy times Beckenham Junction / Crystal Palace to London Bridge via Tulse Hill
Services will be reintroduced to provide two trains per hour at busy times, with an hourly service at other times.That’s pitiful. You’d think it’s a rural service. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on May 19, 2022 23:41:09 GMT
I used to use that service to either go to Balham or to Clapham Junction for SWR services which made trips to Wimbledon or Richmond much more faster than going via Zone 1.
Getting to Clapham Junction now either involves getting the 176 or 185 to Denmark Hill and then the Overground or a train to East Croydon and then back up to Clapham Jnc.
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Post by route53 on May 20, 2022 7:37:26 GMT
I used to use that service to either go to Balham or to Clapham Junction for SWR services which made trips to Wimbledon or Richmond much more faster than going via Zone 1. Getting to Clapham Junction now either involves getting the 176 or 185 to Denmark Hill and then the Overground or a train to East Croydon and then back up to Clapham Jnc. As greenboy said, we can still change at Crystal Palace but that line is half hour, but at least that’s something. More has to be done to better connect South London suburbs |
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Post by COBO on Jun 1, 2022 15:54:57 GMT
Somehow creating a cross rail running between Brighton and Birmingham by linking Euston and Victoria Station through tunnels.
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Post by kmkcheng on Jun 1, 2022 16:04:20 GMT
Somehow creating a cross rail running between Brighton and Birmingham by linking Euston and Victoria Station through tunnels. It probably more likely to link them via the West London Line. Maybe once HS2 is complete, it could free up some paths on the WCML for such a service. The real issue to solve for such a service is how to get it on the fast lines without the existing conflicting moves south of Clapham Junction |
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 5, 2022 17:40:17 GMT
Somehow creating a cross rail running between Brighton and Birmingham by linking Euston and Victoria Station through tunnels. Developing this idea - I have thought that if a business case could be made for it, a tunnel could be constructed from the Quarry Line south of Coulsdon, to run in a straight line towards Central London. This would speed up journeys from the South Coast and Gatwick Airport and relieve congestion in the London area, freeing capacity for more local services. Of course, such a tunnel need not be constrained by having to terminate at Victoria or London Bridge - it could run to a new underground terminal located between Euston and St Pancras, linking into both HS1 and HS2. |
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Post by Dillon95 on Jun 6, 2022 8:06:18 GMT
Somehow creating a cross rail running between Brighton and Birmingham by linking Euston and Victoria Station through tunnels. It probably more likely to link them via the West London Line. Maybe once HS2 is complete, it could free up some paths on the WCML for such a service. The real issue to solve for such a service is how to get it on the fast lines without the existing conflicting moves south of Clapham Junction Can’t they just bring back the East Croydon to Milton Keynes service, and extend it to Brighton and Birmingham? |
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If so this is a shame, I remember living in Sydenham years ago and using this service regularly to see my mates over in SW London, or nights out in Balham or Clapham it was the nearest South London had to having a service similar to the North London Line, although circuitous, it was a highly useful service which avoided zone one apart from Victoria and London Bridge, other than the ELL from Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction and the Victoria to Dartford via Bexleyheath service there aren’t any more direct cross South London rail services.
