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Post by WH241 on Feb 28, 2022 20:39:20 GMT
Not everyone is a bus nerd like us. And there is the point, people getting worked over over LED types when the average passenger probably hasn't even noticed the change from Smart Binds. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 28, 2022 20:39:28 GMT
Not everyone is a bus nerd like us. It’s advertising the route as well. If the 96 comes along with Bluewater in block letters it’s obvious that it goes there. If it says via Bexleyheath & Dartford above it, someone might be like oh lets get that on Saturday for a day out. It’s about getting more people onto the buses, not just the regular users. However that's what leads to unnecessary blind clutter and people don't often have time to work through a blind on a moving bus. If someone wants to check where a bus goes there's adequate publicity to find the information out. If someone wants to go to Bexleyheath on a Saturday out they are more likely to google how to get there as opposed to walk out into the road and hope a bus has it on the blinds somewhere. |
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Post by Quoll662 on Mar 1, 2022 18:15:56 GMT
Not everyone is a bus nerd like us. It’s advertising the route as well. If the 96 comes along with Bluewater in block letters it’s obvious that it goes there. If it says via Bexleyheath & Dartford above it, someone might be like oh lets get that on Saturday for a day out. It’s about getting more people onto the buses, not just the regular users. However that's what leads to unnecessary blind clutter and people don't often have time to work through a blind on a moving bus. If someone wants to check where a bus goes there's adequate publicity to find the information out. If someone wants to go to Bexleyheath on a Saturday out they are more likely to google how to get there as opposed to walk out into the road and hope a bus has it on the blinds somewhere. But might someone not either: 1. See it on the bus and decide they want to go into Bexleyheath? or 2. Say to themselves, I need the xxx route to Bexleyheath and then see the 96 goes too and get that instead? |
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Post by Quoll662 on Mar 1, 2022 18:19:06 GMT
That looks awful, the via points are too big and the final destination is too small. It would lead to confusion with passengers over their final destination if they were planning on going to the end of the route. The last thing a driver wants is to answer the same question of “where are you going?” dozens of times because the blinds are too clumped and hard to read. Personally I would just retain via points on the side blinds and keep the front as simple as possible. We are also ignoring the fact that the majority of passengers in the suburbs know their local routes and don’t need via points. Perhaps in central London where it would benefit tourists and other short term visitors but beyond zone 2 it would be pointless. It wouldn’t be pointless at all. Not everyone knows the bus routes, and it would help gain new passengers that might ditch their car for a useful bus route. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 1, 2022 18:20:33 GMT
However that's what leads to unnecessary blind clutter and people don't often have time to work through a blind on a moving bus. If someone wants to check where a bus goes there's adequate publicity to find the information out. If someone wants to go to Bexleyheath on a Saturday out they are more likely to google how to get there as opposed to walk out into the road and hope a bus has it on the blinds somewhere. But might someone not either: 1. See it on the bus and decide they want to go into Bexleyheath? or 2. Say to themselves, I need the xxx route to Bexleyheath and then see the 96 goes too and get that instead? 1. Chances are you will barely be able to see the via point on a bus due to the blind clutter. 2. If someone wants to get a bus somewhere they are unfamiliar with they'd have likely looked online in advance and know what the shortest option is. |
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Post by cl54 on Mar 1, 2022 18:24:21 GMT
I'd say that LEDs should look like this, with changing vias next to the route no. and the dest. below so:
Hanworth, Heston 111 Heathrow Central
Doesn't meet the minimum height requirement for the destination to be legal. The number is too small too. |
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Post by ElectroDekka on Mar 1, 2022 18:27:46 GMT
I'd say that LEDs should look like this, with changing vias next to the route no. and the dest. below so:
Hanworth, Heston 111 Heathrow Central
Doesn't meet the minimum height requirement for the destination to be legal. The number is too small too. This was a rough idea of what should it be, not really exactly what it would look like as that isn't really possible and also, the bit at the bottom could be extended to fit the number and extend space for the destination. The vias and dest. could be switched as well |
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Post by cl54 on Mar 1, 2022 18:31:59 GMT
Doesn't meet the minimum height requirement for the destination to be legal. The number is too small too. This was a rough idea of what should it be, not really exactly what it would look like as that isn't really possible and also, the bit at the bottom could be extended to fit the number and extend space for the destination.If you look at the various photos of the new displays on the RATP buses you will see the size of the letters and numbers that meet the legal requirements. Your suggestion to cross into the number area is unworkable if the height for the numbers is met. |
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Post by ElectroDekka on Mar 1, 2022 18:37:19 GMT
If you look at the various photos of the new displays on the RATP buses you will see the size of the letters and numbers that meet the legal requirements. Your suggestion to cross into the number area is unworkable if the height for the numbers is met. Why not just get the old layout on buses? I'd defo like the vias on the side back and the vias on the front were useful as well and saved people asking the driver about the route at practically every other stop, with curtailments it's every stop. The changing of the blinds helps this as already served areas don't show up, which confuses non-regular passengers and would attract more people who could ditch their cars for a quicker (and more sustainable) route to their destination. |
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 1, 2022 18:57:27 GMT
If you look at the various photos of the new displays on the RATP buses you will see the size of the letters and numbers that meet the legal requirements. Your suggestion to cross into the number area is unworkable if the height for the numbers is met. Route numbers need to be 20cm tall and destination 12.5cm tall on the front, with both 7cm on sides an rear. |
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